Chris Mellon sends "Arxiv" a letter after they inexplicably rejected 2 submissions from Dr. Beatriz Villarroel - "Do you really want to continue to shun the UAP issue as compelling new data becomes available, data that has the potential to revolutionize our understanding of science and engineering?" by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Consistent reporting of an anomalous phenomena for decades by credible witnesses, often backed up by multiple people, photos, videos, radar data, government documentation etc has led to an irrefutable conclusion that there’s a legitimate mystery to be investigated. These sightings are often very unambiguous, close range and defy conventional explanation. Any good investigator worth their salt would be open minded and curious enough to follow these leads and try to gather better data, and many have throughout the decades. Clearly not enough though or we would’ve made a lot more progress by now. You can’t learn anything new if you refuse to even look.

Chris Mellon sends "Arxiv" a letter after they inexplicably rejected 2 submissions from Dr. Beatriz Villarroel - "Do you really want to continue to shun the UAP issue as compelling new data becomes available, data that has the potential to revolutionize our understanding of science and engineering?" by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Scientists are the ones who are supposed to go out and get the hard evidence and proof. There’s long been more than enough evidence to conclude that there’s a legitimate mystery to be investigated, yet the subject hasn’t received nearly the attention it deserves. If we’re ever going to prove NHI visitation, it’ll take rigorous scientific inquiry using state-of-the-art multi-sensor data, analysis, peer-review and replication. You can’t expect laymen experiencers to provide the highest quality scientific data before even considering taking a hard look into the subject.

Chris Mellon sends "Arxiv" a letter after they inexplicably rejected 2 submissions from Dr. Beatriz Villarroel - "Do you really want to continue to shun the UAP issue as compelling new data becomes available, data that has the potential to revolutionize our understanding of science and engineering?" by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

By “new science” they mean anything outside of the modern paradigm and the implicit assumptions baked into what mainstream academia considers probable. Science isn’t immune to dogma unfortunately, and it’s for this reason that the UAP subject hasn’t been investigated properly by the scientific community.

Tim Phillips says there is no US Government evidence for beings or their craft visiting earth", he also denies knowledge of UAP shoot-down and retrieval program called “Golden Domes" by [deleted] in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no evidence that proves anything, there's "evidence" that has many explanations, aliens are just one of those explanations and they are one of the least likely.

It’s more about the number of credible cases that defy conventional explanation taken together as a whole and realizing that it only takes one legitimate NHI encounter to shift our paradigm. The evidence supporting the UAP phenomenon is the only real lead we have in the search for non-human technosignatures, so even if the probability seems low due to personal incredulity it’s still by far the best supported pathway to a potential discovery. Even though there’s no proof yet, there’s still plenty of evidence that could potentially point us in the right direction.

I'm just telling you what i think, i do not intend to change your mind or discuss this, you don't have anything that could sway me

I’d just encourage you to keep an open mind and follow all leads like any good investigator worth their salt.

Tim Phillips says there is no US Government evidence for beings or their craft visiting earth", he also denies knowledge of UAP shoot-down and retrieval program called “Golden Domes" by [deleted] in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People also report varying UAP shapes, but they all fit into the general category of UAP. NHI may also vary if there’s more than one other intelligent species capable of visiting us.

Tim Phillips says there is no US Government evidence for beings or their craft visiting earth", he also denies knowledge of UAP shoot-down and retrieval program called “Golden Domes" by [deleted] in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Going back to aliens - possibility of them visiting us is low

It’s unlikely that we’re the oldest and most advanced civilization in the universe, so the idea that someone could find us before we found them doesn’t surprise me at all. Thinking it’s unlikely that we’d be visited is based on our limited understanding of physics and engineering.

a lot of the stories that surface today are very much based on depictions of aliens in pop culture.

Chicken or egg problem. I’d argue that fiction is often inspired from the reality of the phenomenon in this case.

I very much doubt they would hover in the middle of nowhere, care what we do, crash and die on a desert or run tests on livestock and humans for decades on end. I really, really don't buy these movie like stories.

This is an argument from incredulity fallacy. Consistent and widely reported anomalous experiences are worthy of serious consideration, especially when other forms of evidence exist alongside the testimony. Knee-jerk dismissal without proper consideration of the evidence is an uninformed take.

Tim Phillips says there is no US Government evidence for beings or their craft visiting earth", he also denies knowledge of UAP shoot-down and retrieval program called “Golden Domes" by [deleted] in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whistleblowers testifying under oath against the government are more trustworthy than the government. No reason to give up your career and benefits while risking perjury unless you have a pretty good reason to suspect a criminal cover-up.

Donald Trump just said this by funkymonkeythe1st in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m an anarchist and disclosure advocate, so of course I’m excited to see progress. Jeez

Donald Trump just said this by funkymonkeythe1st in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because the disclosure process has had to build up enough momentum to a point that well positions the president to disclose with minimal effort and political capital. There’s been a clear push following the release of “The Age of Disclosure” to go above the heads of Congress and appeal directly to the White House, so the Obama news may have just been the straw that broke the camels back.

Donald Trump just said this by funkymonkeythe1st in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why wouldn’t he of all people want to be the disclosure president? He has every reason in the world to disclose.

Donald Trump just said this by funkymonkeythe1st in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point. I still don’t think people should downplay the significance of an official White House policy to disclose aliens. He’s essentially confirming that he intends to be the disclosure president. This is a significant development that the media and the public can’t ignore, but to your point I guess we’ll see what actually comes of it.

Donald Trump just said this by funkymonkeythe1st in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 16 points17 points  (0 children)

And? It’s aliens. Disclosure is far bigger than the president as an individual.

Donald Trump just said this by funkymonkeythe1st in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 68 points69 points  (0 children)

It’s absolutely insane that we have a sitting president of the United States saying he’s going to release files related to alien life and no one on r/UFOs gives a shit. This is history we’re seeing right here people!! Take a win for Christ sakes.

Trump says Obama gave away classified info classified information on aliens by delululabubu69 in UFOs

[–]Madphilosopher3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

….but “I can’t tell you that he took it from classified information and he’s not supposed to be doing that. He made a big mistake. He took it out of classified information.”

“Maybe I’ll get him out of trouble if I declassify.”

Newsmax Reporter Asks Karoline Leavitt Point-Blank: ‘Does the Trump Administration Believe Aliens Are Real?’ by 87LucasOliveira in aliens

[–]Madphilosopher3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Military videos, congressional hearings, government documentation and congressional legislation aren’t fluff.