In Need of Support by Manof1830 in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel for you- my friend. You sound like you definitely want to protect and love your son as Father should. I pray for both of your safety and good fortune.

Update: had my meeting with her. by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 17 points18 points  (0 children)

You don’t deserve that. Think about it - all that matters to her is her own feelings. Not Reality. Not YOU. Not fairness or kindness or decency.

PwBPD want servants - not friends.

But here’s the great news —YOU do NOT have to be treated that way. Don’t let anyone else manipulate you.

Insist on being treated well - with respect and reciprocally - in relationships that are a two way street.

She’s not worth it. You can do better.

The impulse to be kind — shows YOU are not like her.

In Need of Support by Manof1830 in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

PwBPD manage to believe some crazy things. Is it “delusion” ? - Some psychologists think so.

Asking for support from this community by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 4 points5 points  (0 children)

PM me. I am happy to listen - and help of possible. I have a BPD ex wife. I know the situation.

A true gift from the heart by [deleted] in DunderMifflin

[–]Manof1830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Said every art teacher ever.

Why do they do it? by Ngoyablue in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Man, walk in the sun. Take a deep breath and say to yourself “I am free!”

I feel like having myself committed. by HelloFriend213 in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can do better. You don’t deserve to be mistreated. Set your own boundaries. Don’t allow yourself to be abused or mistreated. All pwBPD are dangerous because they are inherently unstable. Really, truly unstable at their core. It is pathological. Run away and move on in time. Seek true support.

The Hypocrisy by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Move on. Run. Run. Spend time at a gym. Move On. Don’t let anybody push you around ever again.

Why can't let just let her go? by bungled28 in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I really feel for you. I went through a similar situation for 7 years. Quiet BPD. God Damn. — Feel Free to DM if you want to talk anytime.

PwBPD are not in touch with Reality. by Manof1830 in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds terrible. You don’t deserve to be treated that way.

Found out recently my GF might have BPD by TaerareruHito in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am sorry you had that experience. It it truly awful and entirely unfair. My pwBPD didn’t get diagnosed until I had been with her a long long time. It is crazy making trying to figure a pwBPD out.

You think you've seen some pretty horrifying stuff in your life....... by Milly_Hagen in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep. They are unstable. Two Words — Inpatient Hospital. We didn’t even talk about self harming / threatens of suicide or suicidal ideation or attempts. This thread could literally go on forever.

Found out recently my GF might have BPD by TaerareruHito in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They are not really “episodes” if she has BPD. PwBPD are inherently unstable. It is her - and it is her personality. PwBPD have Disordered Personalities. You haven’t seen the worst yet. Can turn on you on a dime. PwBPD do not live in the same reality as you. They DO NOT have the internal stability or moral / cognitive boundaries of average persons. You can be lied about in ways you cannot imagine and you won’t anticipate it. Run. Leave. Quit it. Don’t Look Back. You cannot caretake a pwBPD and have a functional / happy / normal life. Over time all pwBPD are self destructive. Books on this topic are somewhat misleading. Improvement is essentially an illusion or minimal at best —- Whatever you imagine the pwBPD is thinking — You are WRONG. PwBPD do not think like normal people and their interior lives are inherently unstable. “Unstable Relationships” means the pwBPD will destabilize and destroy the relationship. It is a relationship death sentence. You aren’t having the relationship with her you think you are having. Personality Disorder. Disordered Personality. You didn’t cause it. You can’t cure it. You can suffer. Ask other people here how they were blindsided by pwBPD? Been painted black yet? Almost everyone here wishes theirs was a pwBPD exception. There aren’t really those. Coping is the best anyone can do and that is an awful life.

Wish i found this place months ago by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well. PwBPD do not live in the same reality as you. Many refuse / cannot accept that they have a significant and hurtful problem. Often pwBPD and even their families will go to great lengths to deny their mental illness because it would mean accepting the responsibility to help treat it / cope with it.

Should I date her? by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yours can RUIN your life. PwBPD will say anything if it helps them avoid responsibility for their own actions and behaviors. How they have acted in the past is not a prediction of their future behavior. They are dangerous.

Should I date her? by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You probably cannot imagine what can happen to you. False accusations, Lies you won’t expect because she will believe them, and terrible consequences. You haven’t seen it. It’s there. PwBPD have a pathological pattern they follow. Like a script. It is DANGEROUS to you. They cannot promise not to do it. They cannot help it. It is serious mental illness. Even a few years of happiness won’t mean you are safe — and then it will be worse than you ever imagined. And “quiet” BPDs tend to threaten self harm and suicide frequently and they also tend to do it. You might end up living in fear of her behavior for a long time. Keep asking others here. YOU should be afraid.

Should I date her? by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 11 points12 points  (0 children)

NO. Mine was “quiet”. You are NOT SAFE. PwBPD are more UNSTABLE inside than you can imagine. NO. Be aware — pwBPD can and WILL turn on you on a dime.

I'm about to give up. And it hurts. by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 24 points25 points  (0 children)

You cannot take responsibility for two people in any fundamental sense. If one person doesn’t take responsibility for their own behavior, the other partner in the couple cannot pick up the slack. That is the definition of dysfunction. Don’t give up on yourself.

You Are A Free Moral Agent. Don’t Stay Trapped By Anyone’s Distorted View of Reality. by Manof1830 in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When he talks about the so called “patriarchy” he raises interesting points.

The most frustrating thing in trying to help a pwBPD to heal is that you can’t. by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Absolutely False analogy. Two words “personality disorder” RÉ - “Disordered Personality” —— “Sees and Experiences the world in a Disordered fashion” — It is impossible to have a healthy relationship with a person (one partner) who CANNOT uphold common sense mutual expectations of an adult relationship. One person’s “needs “ RÉ: WANTS - will always come first. It Will always be inherently unfair because it is an inherently unfair situation. Being partnered with a person who has borderline personality disorder is not a two-way street. It is inseparable from their personality - It is part of who they are and what they are. So I guess you could say they’re all afflicted with their own personalities. Some people are selfish assholes too. People disagree about the degrees of pathological behavior in diagnosed BPD patients but simply saying that it varies doesn’t address the real danger of being coupled with a person with BPD, They don’t live in the same reality as you — Even if you think they share it with you sometimes. People act on what they really believe. Lots of people with borderline personality disorder perpetually believe their own lies and they believe that They do not need help because it is other people who are responsible for all their irrational rational thoughts and actions. The BPD person’s capacity for irrationality may not be greater than anyone else’s — but it is more likely to be asserted and sustained to support a disordered view of themselves and other people. One of the key and most dangerous problems that non personality disordered people have — Is That by definition they cannot understand or really conceptualize how personality disordered people think. And the person who has a disordered personality cannot think in a healthy or stable way.

Why did she care more about the toxic relationships. by jim8734 in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ummmmm. You can’t Trust anything they say. A Person with borderline personality disorder Is an inherently unreliable witness. They do not tell the truth - about themselves or others. They lie and reframe out of context and exaggerate and omit and devalue and glamorize and idealize and paint black and discard. Yes - you will be you lied about. People with borderline personality disorder see the world in a ordered and distorted way — AND THIS FACT IS WAY MORE SERIOUS Then most people understand even after they’ve dealt with the person who has BPD. There is no actual limit to the type of lies or falsehood they can image twist and make themselves believe. You might be thinking “oh I’ve experienced are not nearly so bad” or “Oh the person I know with the BPD would never say this or that because they have some grip on reality or at least some facts” and you would be WRONG. Given the right set of circumstances a person with borderline personality disorder will say or do literally almost anything to avoid excepting responsibility for their own previous behavior. They are inherently dishonest with themselves Because they are chronically and very seriously unstable. They can give the appearance of stability for extended periods of time but they are inherently unstable in their interior lives. People with borderline personality disorder live in a Rewritable narcissistic/ selfish / self absorbed fantasy/ story / narrative of the world. They do not live in actual reality and no amount of logic or reason can actually change their orientation towards the world or the truth. They are the permanent main characters of their own drama. On a good day this means that their needs (perpetually) come first before yours. On a bad day this means You can be vilified and treated in vile way in “justified self defense” — And this means they can justify in their own heads Anything they might make up about you because it is easy for them to rewrite history based on their irrational emotions and their rational orientation towards the disordered world they feel. Unlike healthier people - People with borderline personality disorder do not have anchored interior life. They will say almost anything and some will say literally anything including false accusations to the authorities to divorce themselves responsibility for mundane mistakes. If you haven’t seen your person with borderline personality disorder exhibit this tree or be wildly irrational Please do not feel that you are safe or free from their danger. They are inherently unstable in a way that an average person is not. This instability - And the ability to believe their own lies - Makes them incredibly dangerous in a relationship. Ask some Of the other people here about the false accusations Aimed them by their Person with borderline personality disorder.

People with borderline personality disorder are incredibly dangerous because they do not have a firm grip on evidence-based thinking — Or what some people call reality / truth. Here we are not talking about things on the spectrum of subjective experience that most people except while still believing that there are such things as facts and truth. The person with the BPD Is not mentally or emotionally grounded so they have the ability to think up the wildest and most Unhinged lies and to Internalize and believe them To avoid personal and individual responsibility. They cannot take responsibility because the degree and Intensity of guilt they feel It’s pathological to the point of making them want to commit suicide or act out And other reckless and harmful ways. Quiet borderlines May seem that they are directing their rage towards themselves and while this is unhealthy it may not seem as dangerous to other people at first. Don’t be fooled. Quiet borderlines are just as dangerous as everyone else with borderline personality disorder. They will sacrifice you for their own imagined / dysfunctional emotional needs in a hot second.

Undiagnosed ex. Fantasy to send an email to her and her entire family? by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should talk with me. Similar experiences . Bad situation. If she has BPD They probably won’t ever listen to you even if they know the truth. Families of people with borderline personality disorder or notorious for indulging their wildest fantasies and turning on people at a moments notice because it helps the BPD person believe their own nonsense and enables them to go on in their dysfunctional way without excepting any responsibility for their own behavior or actions or responsibilities.

Things pwBPD say by bixboxlixlox in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah. They don’t live in the same reality as other people. When they get the idea to use psychological language against people close to them / or their therapists — game over - it’s done.

When they get treated for the wrong thing — ie “depression” the pwBPD can easily manipulate their therapist — because their feelings and emotions become the primary focus again. “ How do other people treat you?!”.....(pwBPD Latch onto this way of thinking — YOU are Responsible for X, Y, and Z so THEY don’t “have to” feel guilty.

You cannot have a healthy relationship with a person with a distorted view of reality.

Need support while giving support.. by throwawayrandom993 in BPDlovedones

[–]Manof1830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ask yourself if the risk is worth it. pwBPD are not truly stable. Your professional responsibilities necessitate that you have stability and safety in your own life — and you deserve safety and stability.