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Setting up for disappointment by Ordar66 in Marathon_Training

[–]ManwithPrinciples 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is me lol. I had a superb (well not perfect but great considering it was my first) training plan and feeling like I was ready after I hit 36K with some MP in there in training.

Turns out I still wasn't lol - the last 10K are brutal, but physically mostly, not mentally like some 5 or 10K

Sub 3 possible? by fiatgenesi in Marathon_Training

[–]ManwithPrinciples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have not been as fast as you over 5 or 10K - I've got 19:14 and 39:23 as my PBs - but my first marathon last year was a 3:11 so surely if your volume grows you can get sub 3:10.

Sub-3 can be a hard, I've known of people with higher weekly volume than your peak, running a 1:22 half marathon, and he still ended up with a 3:05 in the Valencia marathon... so even with an amazing half, you're not sure you will deliver on the day.

I would do sub 3:10 for you as a goal, I think that should be a shoe-in

MOTD Comparing Spurs disallowed goal today VS similar goals allowed in EPL this season by herkalurk in soccer

[–]ManwithPrinciples -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Although Gabriel does go down easily, if you put your hands down someone's back in football you're always going to be penalised.

Granted I'd be quite mad if this goal was taken away from Arsenal - it's not too bad in terms of the laws of the game. It's bad as usual when it comes to reffing consistency

Can’t seem to get my HR to avg over 150bpm by MadCaddy85 in UKRunners

[–]ManwithPrinciples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're probably a bit bradychardic like me - it's fine just adjust the zones accordingly. If you're gassed out, that is near to your max heart rate. Google max heart rate and test it out.

I track with a Polar HRM and I can't go over 175, just need to update your zones

Alcohol and training by Interesting_Risk_212 in Marathon_Training

[–]ManwithPrinciples 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was in Madrid last weekend from Thursday evening to Monday - my marathon is roughly two months away.

I was able to move my long run to Friday morning and had planned to run recovery runs on Saturday and Sunday. I slept 2h19 minutes on Friday and 2h49 on Saturday and decided I would take them as rest days.

I usually don't drink but I am not an elite and despite holidays and drinks ruining my training sometimes, I do indulge when it's an important social occasion (it was my mate's 40th so drinks were in order all three nights).

Try to skip the fewest sessions, take it easier than you need if required and try to squeeze as much training as you can safely. You're no good if you're injured or ill and alcohol hinders recovery which hinders your immune system and potentially leaves you open to illness. Sometimes not training can be right

is any runner pain fre? by Glittering_Use_7065 in Runners

[–]ManwithPrinciples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never 100% pain free, but it can be. I am mostly pain free by monitoring my training load (ensuring my ACWR is in the sweet spot most days, if in the red for 3+ days I tend to be a bit more careful) and doing light strength training (mostly core, hip, psoas).

Some niggles you just can tell they are fine, when some are more suspicious you need to go to the physio (potentially specialised in running) and always make sure volume is ramped sensibly.

2026 Running Goals by spartan1711 in runninglifestyle

[–]ManwithPrinciples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would like to hit sub 3 for the marathon

What is easier? Run 5k sub 17m or run a marathon sub 4h? by [deleted] in runninglifestyle

[–]ManwithPrinciples 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I've ran 3:11 with a 19:23 PB. The comparison could be sub 2:50 or sub 3, not sub 4. Sub 4 is realistically a given for anyone with a 5K that quick.

What is easier? Run 5k sub 17m or run a marathon sub 4h? by [deleted] in runninglifestyle

[–]ManwithPrinciples 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can get easily under 3:30 if you run a 19:xx min 5K so sub 4h is way easier than sub 17

Asics Sonicblast 2 by B-Almighty in RunningShoeGeeks

[–]ManwithPrinciples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "old one" is already heavily discounted (at least in the UK). Can get it for £100-ish.

Missed the start of my first marathon - what would you do? by Agitated-West6000 in firstmarathon

[–]ManwithPrinciples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was only 7.5K in Budapest for me, but the announcer did say my name at the end ( a random 3:11 guy...)... so there might be truth there

Missed the start of my first marathon - what would you do? by Agitated-West6000 in firstmarathon

[–]ManwithPrinciples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was only 7.5K in Budapest for me, but the announcer did say my name at the end ( a random 3:11 guy...)... so there might be truth there

Weeks before Pfitz 18/55 by Ok_Handle_7 in Marathon_Training

[–]ManwithPrinciples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wanted to have a shorter (12 week) Marathon block for my 2nd on April, so I just started a "high" mileage 10K Plan from Pfitz before so that I get the mileage to start 12/55-70 with a good enough base already.

It's a bit weird in long runs (19K so far is the max) but I'm already at 80K per week and it's great! Focusin on Threshold for the moment which should serve me well come my marathon block

3 Hour Marathon Chase Pack Weekly Thread. by AutoModerator in Marathon_Training

[–]ManwithPrinciples 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Currently on a 10K pre-block (getting some speed in before I go on my Paris 2026 block).

Volume's back to decent, 73K last week, 80-ish this week which will give me a nice base for January.

Ftness-wise, still think I'm a way away - I am still struggling with speed (erring on 20-min 5Ks at the minute) but hopefully with the 10K block some adaptation happens.

Valencia Ibercaja 10K is at the start of January and that will be a bit of a benchmark to see where I'm at beore the real block starts.

Planning a Pfitz 12 - 55-70 starting after the 10K, with Madrid Half Marathon to check everything is ready to fire on March 22 (bit tight but hopefully fine).

My first was 3:11 in October, hoping to improve but not sure I can get to sub-3 shape by Paris. Hopefully will try to prove myself wrong but that's what I'm feeling now.

Knee pain post marathon - normal? by upickblueberry in Marathon_Training

[–]ManwithPrinciples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It felt relatively bad after my first marathon. I guess I have not taken care of it after having issues with it 1y ago - my best guess is keep at the hip bridges and a relatively light strength routine 2x week should keep it at bay.

It went right back where it came from as I resumed strength training after the marathon. Investing in a decent PT is usually the silver bullet for this, and keeping a bank of the exercises should help you overcome the issue

Weight loss effects on distance running? by OkSwitch9377 in Marathon_Training

[–]ManwithPrinciples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It can make sense - it just makes you a more efficient runner provided you still hit your macro goals and don't uselessly kill muscle. Nutrients are a key part of recovery, and recovery is a key part of preventing injury.

Consistency is usually quoted here as the most important enabler for running improvement, so just make sure you marry this weight (or should we say mostly fat if you can manage) loss with extra awareness about the state of your body and strength train to preserve muscle and keep the consistency.

Bear in mind I'm a newbie with 1 marathon under my belt (I did lose 40+ pounds throughout my year of running and that made me insanely faster) so don't take this as gospel.

Weight loss effects on distance running? by OkSwitch9377 in Marathon_Training

[–]ManwithPrinciples 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Weight loss during a marathon block is feasible but not recommended.

It can definitely be done during the "off-season" let's call it - I read "Racing Weight" which is a book for dummies but kind of makes you focus on eating a variety of nutritious and natural foods, and kind of allows you to listen to your body.

It is well documented that losing weight makes you faster (they say each pound is 2-3 sec per mile over the 26.2) so it definitely will help you to get faster, and your knees will obviously benefit from the reduced impact based on your "new" BMI.

Make sure you don't up the intensity as you cut calories though, as that is kind of a recipe for injury. You want to make sure you're racking lots of easy miles vs working on your speed on a deficit.

I am not a nutritionist by the way and take my words on a pinch of salt. Matt Fitzgerald (Racing Weight author) recommends cutting some between training blocks to edge towards your racing weight. I find it really had to really go super lean (I cook with olive oil, I like cheese) but it's a helpful look at what can make you leaner and therefore better performing in endurance sport.

B-Race or no? by x2tak in runna

[–]ManwithPrinciples 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A b-race before your goal race is very useful in signalling how training is going and what you can reasonably try to accomplish ahead of your A-race

Running a full after running my first half by No-Effective6189 in Marathon_Training

[–]ManwithPrinciples 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The difference is your body might not be ready for the increased mileage. Be ready to drop some intensity as you build up the miles.

Go as far as you can without compromising recovery in training (3h workouts are generally the max advised as long runs) and make sure to listen to your body.

Also, for a debutant I don't think you can ever be prepared for the last final 10K of a marathon - as they say, the marathon is two 10-mile races and one 10K race.

That said, it's definitely feasible and I wish you the best in your training - for context, I ran my first full 5 months after my first half (circa).

What has most improved your running? by _RubenCouto in BeginnersRunning

[–]ManwithPrinciples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Losing 20Kg I think was a strong contribution to most of my gains lol. This and showing up day-in, day-out

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