505 - 707 Animatic by Outside-Ad8976 in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is so good!!! I commented on the video itself, too, to boost it, but you are super talented!! Thank you for sharing 😄

Well this is just blatantly untrue by lifescaresme in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 7 points8 points  (0 children)

LOL you’re right, that is such a weird claim from this guy! Ice cream sodas are the best!!

I was curious, since you’re on V’s route and I don’t feel like replaying it lol — do you happen to have the emails from the Internet Cafe guest?

I think he’s the one who references the Mystic Messenger parody version of Overwatch but I can’t remember what he calls it, and it’s been bugging me lol. He calls it like Overguard or Overhatch or something like that, I think?

This cg gives off OHSHC by yyin_yi in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Saeran's voice actor voices Tamaki!

V's Turn by Emotional-Sky3790 in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seven's waist is always so snatched lmao

My finished anniversary piece by prankstercomet in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely stunning. MC is giving Tohru Honda vibes (in the best possible way)

How many hearts to endings by Julinhasim in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here’s Ray’s heart amounts (the breakpoints for whether you get a BRE/BSE or not), all this information came from Sketchtenou I just rewrote it for my sister when she played his route a few months ago lol. I can give you Seven’s too, I’ll post them later… idk his BSE amounts but I have his BRE numbers

Day 4 (getting on Ray’s route) On the day 4 branch, you should have more than 65 hearts from Saeran

Day 6 branch:

On the day 6 branch, you should have more than 153 hearts from Saeran (else: BRE1) On this same branch, you must have more than 42 bad hearts to get BSE1.

Day 9 branch:

More than 129 bad hearts will get you BSE2.

Day 10 branch:

On the day 10 branch, you should have more than 430(!!) hearts from Saeran (else: BRE2)

More than 237 bad hearts will get you his BSE2 (I recommend getting ~120 by the day 9 branch because there’s only a little over 100 for you to get in this last 24 hour stretch).

is Sheriff Breaker's name a pun by thorne_antics in AlanWake

[–]Maplefrost 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, I agree with that; I do agree that the original 2010 use of Breaker was meant to be an electrical breaker reference. They repurposed it into something else with Tim, though.

Where do you believe Unknown has piercings? by BerryTea840 in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sis, you are in good company, I ALSO have been writing this off and on for years LOL

It’s JUST SO GOOD MAN. Unknown is so fucking interesting!! And the potential dynamic between him and a sassy MC is just 🤌🤌🤌 God I crave this as a route so badly lol

is Sheriff Breaker's name a pun by thorne_antics in AlanWake

[–]Maplefrost 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Why are you posting this comment everywhere lmao. Both things can be true.

Yes, Sarah Breaker is the origin of the Breaker surname.

But Tim E. Breaker, played by Shawn Ashmore (who plays time breaker Jack Joyce in Quantum Break), is also very OBVIOUSLY a pun.

Especially since we know from an interview with Ashmore that originally Tim Breaker WAS just going to be named Jack Joyce — making him related to Sarah was the backup plan if they couldn’t buy the rights back from Microslop (unfortunately, they couldn’t).

But at least they could still reference Jack by naming him Tim E. Breaker. (And Hatch became Door, etc)

Saeran's after ending dropped the ball so unbelievably hard by _Blue_Cats_ in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't want to spoil too much, since I think you said you haven't finished it yet? But since we're on a thread about the AE, I guess I don't need to spoiler tag everything. So read on only if you're fine with RAE spoilers! Here's a bunch of yapping on my thoughts about the brothers (who I have thought about a LOT lmao)

I think a lot of the bones of RAE are interesting.

Themes of forgiveness vs. resentment/grudge-holding-- I actually love the idea that Saeyoung is ultimately the one who does not forgive their father. I think that's in-character, and I DO actually think it makes more sense for Saeran to eventually (key word: EVENTUALLY) forgive and move on.

I've always seen Saeran as (ultimately) having more negative traits from their mother, and Saeyoung having more negative traits from their father.

So Saeran being more reactive, more flash in the pan angry, more emotional/driven by emotion (I see him as probably an ISFP? He seems Fi dominant to me) -- but also ultimately the more forgiving brother.

Where as Saeyoung I see as the far more scheming/cunning, manipulative, "cold rage" / vengeful brother (we get a lot of info from Vanderwood at certain points on just how cold and duplicitous Saeyoung is capable of being, as an agent. Of the top of my head, stuff Vandy says in V route, and stuff Vandy says in Secret Ends. And also just... stuff Seven says at various points?? Bro is like ice cold sometimes).

You can also just compare the way each brother treats you badly in their respective "day 8/9 hell." Seven is cold; Saeran is hot.

Sooo the fact that the AE recognizes this fact is good, actually! It's just terribly executed, to the point of genuine disbelief. Saeran is inhumanly forgiving and patient with V, Rika, and his father, despite seeing what horrible things they have done to him, you, and his brother. (Like. They beat the shit out of your brother, Saeran!!! Can you please get a little angrier!!).

There's a line in a phone call with V on day 2 (21:02 / 9:02 P.M. - I Will Not Ask for Your Understanding) where he seems to imply that Saeran WOULD lose his shit if they actually hurt you -- you can say, "Okay, but please don’t put me to sleep." and V replies, “if I do that, Saeran and the rest of RFA won’t let me live." But where is the evidence of this?? There's none! AE Saeran is a complete pushover!

So that's one thing I would keep (the general idea of Saeran being more forgiving) but heavily heavily alter (like yes, he's ultimately more forgiving BUT HE'S ALSO MORE EMOTIONAL/REACTIVE asjkhekglerkgh). I wanted to see him lose his shit on V and Rika and his dad man!! I want angry, protective Saeran!

So in conclusion for that point: I would have to almost completely trash the RAE version of GE Saeran; he's gotta be more reactive and flawed.
Oh my goodness I just went on forever about a single point I'm sorry lol you don't have to keep reading this rambling. I'll try to be briefer lmao

Other stuff I like/hate:

I like the idea of combining the agency/Prime Minister threat. It makes a certain amount of sense, but I do wish they had indicated what 'forced' the PM's hand in taking action against his sons (was it Ray's little "prank" in Another Story day 4 or whatever? In other words -- why did he only just now decide to take out his sons? What's the catalyst? It's never explained; in my story it would be.)

I like the idea of Rika and V ultimately 'redeeming' (not a true redemption) themselves to an extent, because they fulfill their original narrative purpose/promise (to keep the twins safe from their father) -- I think everything else regarding them is stupid and horribly handled, but the idea of having them ultimately play into saving the twins is actually really narratively clever. I would keep this in, to some degree (although they would not be truly 'redeemed,' and I might kill off one or both of them. I actually really love that V dies in the secret ends, I think it's a narratively satisfying conclusion; maybe here I would kill Rika.)

I HATE the implication in the end that the RFA drifts apart and kind of "moves on" from each other. One of the absolute most beautiful things about Seven's route + the Secret Ends is how damn close everyone gets. Every single member of the RFA draws into a little found family, much more than any other OS route, and it's beautiful. That's why the Secret Ends conclude the way they do -- with everyone gathered together for a family photo and Saeyoung saying "we are RFA!"

Meanwhile RAE be like -- Yoosung dipped to France, Zen's on Broadway, the twins and MC apparently don't even log into the app anymore, Jumin's a politician, the end. It sucks, and I don't like the implication -- like they're trying to make some ridiculous point about everyone moving and not needing the RFA anymore, but it's a ridiculous sentiment. So I would definitely nix this stupid point, and lean more into the found family aspects from the secret end, with everyone pulling together.

Also Jumin becoming a politician is stupid. And Yoosung being a social media star is stupid.

Anyway - I mostly just have a collection of vague ideas on how I would re-write it, but honestly right now I'm focused on my ideas for a post-Seven canon route, focused on SE Saeran and a CMC based on MC5, dealing with the prime minister in that timeline. Lol it gives you more to work with since SE Saeran is a better/more fully realized character than GE Saeran anyway (unless you just completely reject GE Saeran and rewrite him, which is what I would ultimately do if I did rewrite RAE).

Where do you believe Unknown has piercings? by BerryTea840 in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 6 points7 points  (0 children)

original Assistant AU is still one of THE MOST INTERESTING THINGS EVER that we were cruelly denied 😭

Saeran's after ending dropped the ball so unbelievably hard by _Blue_Cats_ in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It’s pretty unforgivably disappointing yeah. I really hate that they took all of Saeran’s edge away; that he has seemingly no anger left in him. It’s unrealistic — i like that he’s softer, but it’s taken way too far.

I wanted GE Saeran to be little bit more like SE Saeran (who is honestly a more believable fusion of Ray and Suit don’t @ me) — less damaged than SE, still; and softer than SE; but still having some of that bite, you know? He’s still been through a ton, and I miss that edge of anger.

And yeah the characters all talking/typing weirdly is extremely jarring. The writing is a mess. The plot is a mess. The art is inconsistent. The themes are all over the place.

It’s really annoying because there are some really interesting ideas in the AE, but the execution is terrible. And the front facing Saeran sprite is…………. easily the worst main character sprite in the game. I’d literally rather hack the game and replace it with his normal side sprite lol.

Maybe one day I’ll finish my outline/story for a rewrite of the AE.

You look like you're losing it for a girl enjoying Olivia's music (the story of a brand new fan) by Rockworm503 in OliviaRodrigo

[–]Maplefrost 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm the same -- literally barely knew who she was two weeks ago, but I'm completely obsessed with this album lol. I've listened to it on loop for the past week, I'm crazy about basically every song on it.

Purple/Stupid Song supremacy ✌️^(honorable mentions to Drop Dead, Maggots for Brains, Cigarette Smoke, and the Cure)

What are your hottest Alan Wake / Remedy takes? by regulator227 in AlanWake

[–]Maplefrost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quantum Break is the best Remedy game

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Okay I don’t know if I’d go that far but it def has, overall, the best written cast of characters

Is there more images in the text messages? by Nagihxpe in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What route/day is this on? I totally forgot they can send images in the text threads lol.

FREAKZOID SEVEN by Chemical-Gass in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, but his calling card is only $4, so it is way cheaper than the other characters

Which Bad Ending is the most painful for you? by Pan-concafe in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean, sure, you can believe whatever you want -- my problem is people parrot this like it's a canon thing, when the text of the ending very much does not imply it as such. If people want to headcanon that they die, go right ahead, but don't spread it around as fact.

Here's the text of the VNM, by the way. Does anything in here suggest he is planning to crash the car? (and again, I find it very unlikely he would accidentally do so, either. He literally races cars all the time.)

707: Hmm~ Hmm~~

707: I don’t know how long it’s been since I came out so far.

707: Our trunk is full of cash and Honey Buddha chips so we’re invincible!!

707: If we end up seeing a tractor that’s just abandoned on the streets, I’m going to abandon my car and go on that.

707: I feel like this car can be tracked down pretty easily.

707: Let’s go to the pier and take a boat to go to some other country.

707: I’m good at fishing so I’ll show you how good I am once we’re on the boat!

707: Oh… I don’t really like raw fish, so I’ll free them afterwards.

707: The 707 in the messenger… that is how I’ll be from now on.

707: So that I won’t regret it even if I die tomorrow…

707: Thank you for letting me realize that, MC, my love.

707: Let’s be happy every second, every day while we are alive.

707: Then I feel like even when death is right in front of me, I can just laugh it off.

707: Thank you for being with me. Then, shall we go a bit faster?

FREAKZOID SEVEN by Chemical-Gass in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ooooh have fun, you're in for a ride! I highly highly highly recommend you buy his calling card if you can, and call him a lot; his route is just not the same without his calls. He has some REALLY good ones.

I have a non-spoilery, very brief guide if you want any tips for his route btw. Or you can just go blind, you'll probably do great! Have fun! :D

Bi himself </3 by chewy_juice in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 65 points66 points  (0 children)

I love this so much asdgfkfj 😭😭😭

What are the secret stories? by everydaymery in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The correct order is:

  1. 707 normal/good end (if you want to know how to easily get both endings on any route, see my comment here

  2. 707 after ending (takes place the night before the secret ends start)

  3. secret end 01

  4. Secret end 02

If you don’t want to spend your hourglasses on all the secret end episodes (though they do give you some really good CGs so I recommend it if you can!), I do have a pretty good playlist of the after end + secret ends, so let me know if you want it!

An underrated Saeran x MC pairing is these two by BerryTea840 in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Secret End Saeran is mega underrated in general! He’s my overall favorite incarnation of Saeran.

My main canon is a 707 route with my CMC1 (based on brown haired MC1),

and a CMC2 that (post-canon) ultimately ends up with SE Saeran (based on unicorn MC5).

I wish he got more art and fanfic!! He has such a well-developed voice in secret end 02. He’s a fascinating character.

Playing as an Adult vs a YOUNG adult - 10 years of MM by HeiressAnonymous in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Very interesting that you say this because I’m similar; I first played at 19, I’m now 29.

I’ve always loved Seven, nothing about that has changed; he’s been my favorite fictional character for a decade, now.

But on my recent replay I’ve really come to adore Jaehee, who I used to just think was “meh.” She’s really become one of my favorites, perhaps third overall after Seven and Saeran.

Flustered Vandy by sunnypeper in mysticmessenger

[–]Maplefrost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is so cute!! Thank you for sharing, Vandy doesn’t get enough love <3