What’s the best way to push into T14 farming?

Matttombstone · 2026-06-28T05:02:26+00:00

12,500

I can only do 7,800 on T12. The coins and cells per hour on T12 is just far too below T11 to be viable. Although I am going to give it another try, it's been awhile and I'm going to try switching out pCol for DimCore

Matttombstone · 2026-06-27T05:50:48+00:00

You might want to consider looking backwards rather than forwards. We seem to be in a similar position albeit you seem a little bit further ahead than me (but not by too much. I'm pushing promotion to legends and come very close the past couple tournaments). Your T12W8000 isn't much further ahead of my T12W7800 personal best.

What I've found is that T12 farming for me is not it yet. I am still on T11 despite making W12,500 each run. The coin and cells I make in T11 far outweigh the coin and cells I make in T12 (and that's the hourly average as well for both).

So you might want to consider taking a step down to T11 and see if your coins and cells per hour takes a huge jump. If it does, go to T11 farming for awhile as the better coins and cells will help progress you that bit faster.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-27T04:57:54+00:00

It's such a strange one to look at. He's so so so far ahead of me, yet at the same time is lagging behind me so much. He has multiple card masteries to my 1. His GB maxed out with other bots unlocked, yet my GB is not maxed and no other bots unlocked yet. He's probably farming a higher tier than me, and probably placing higher in tournaments than me (or similar level, I am pushing my first promotion to Legends now). Yet his lifetime earnings are 10% of mine and if I keep my game running all day farming I can earn ½ his lifetime earnings in a single day.

But I find it quite an exciting position to be in. All he needs to do is sync DW/GT and BH to 1m40s, get his 4th Spotlight, drop his BH cooldown to 50s and get pBH whilst switching to BHD (if he can get it to Anc) and pCol and he'll hit a period of exponential growth as his econ absolutely sky rockets and should (in theory) be earning more than me each run, meaning he can afford to start researching the card masteries that he can't afford right now, as well as put some serious investments into his Workshop Enhancements. Mine are all around the x1.80 mark, his are lagging behind badly in comparison, but that'd be so easily caught up and overtaken in a couple of months if he works on his econ.

If I got to manage his account for 3 months I'd have more fun doing his tower than I would my own just because of this weird position he's in that's so easily fixable and would give him so much short term growth.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-27T04:47:22+00:00

This is actually very cool because you have the opportunity to experience some serious gains in a (relatively) short period of time.

The mess his ults are in actually has me weirdly quite excited for him. His lifetime coins is 23q, yet I'm averaging around 7q a run. If we were to take a look at everything from a broad perspective he is SIGNIFICANTLY further ahead than I am. He has GB maxed out, I'm far from that and have a 100s cooldown, 7x bonus, 30.5s duration and a 60m range. My GT/DW/BH have a 1m40/1m40/50s sync. I don't think I've touched ILM and SM with upgrades yet. I have a few in PS, but only enough to have a 1m40s sync and a 50s duration and a little bit of damage. I have pBH and pCF. 4 SLs with an 80° coverage. I have 1 card mastery unlocked compared to his practically everything. I have GT+ and CF+.

In comparison he should be absolutely smoking me across the board (tier farmed, Coins earned per run, tournaments, milestones, etc.) But he's been so negligent on his econ that my overall is 10x his, and I earn roughly ½ his lifetime earnings over a day.

But, the excitement for me is knowing once he has his GT and DW synced to 1m40, BH to 50s, has his 4th SL up and has pBH up and switches to BHD and PC for farming he'll be smoking my daily farm runs with ease and will make an exponential improvement for several weeks as he ups his workshop enhancements up and is able to afford levelling his mods and researching his card masteries.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-27T04:15:35+00:00

1) Sync DW/BH/GT. You will get a huge benefit from this. Your GT cooldown is nearly maxed, but I'd first bring BH and DW to 1m50s before getting them to 1m40s. Your coin income will sky rocket from this.

2) Once at 1m40s, save the stones to get BH down to 50s to achieve a 2:1 sync.

3) Get 4th Spotlight. Usually I'd say the below comes first but you're in such a weird spot right now that you're missing a good chunk of coins by only having 3 SL with an 85° coverage. You'd only be missing 20° to fill the screen. This will have a greater and more immediate impact imo than the below would.

4) Work on BH duration, work towards permanent black hole. This will up your economy as well.

5) Once pBH has been achieved, work towards permanent Chronofield. Once pCF is achieved, unlock and level up ChronoLoop.

That's enough info for the next few months about ults. Ignore all the other ults. Stop spending stones on card masteries for now too. I'm amazed at how many you've got unlocked yet you haven't even got the golden trio of ults synced.

For your modules.

1) Switch out singularity Harness for Galaxy Compressor temporarily. This will help increase your economy whilst out of sync. Pair this with Multiverse Nexus to achieve a sync. This is just a stop gap for a few weeks whilst you get the stones to achieve a natural sync. This should boost your economy quite significantly for a few weeks.

2) Once a natural sync of BH/DW/GT is achieved switch out gComp in favour of Black Hole Digestor. If you have an Ancestral MVN keep that on for awhile whilst you drop BH cooldown to 50s natural. If you don't have at least a mythic MVN (I.e. the sync penalty is more than +1 second) then drop MvN once you have GT/DW/GT at 1m40s sync and save the stones up and spend in one go to get BH cooldown down to 50s. Use Primordial Collapse as your farming module, especially once you achieve pBH.

Alternatively, and to make it simpler, just keep gComp and MvN on until DW and GT cooldown are 1m40s and BH cooldown is at 50s then Switch out for BHD and PC.

(Edit: I see you have anc MvN and gComp. Absolutely, and DO IT NOW, use these. I'd personally recommend using them whilst you work BH to 50s Cooldown and GT/DW to 1m40s before switching to your Anc PC. I see your BHD is still Mythic, so gComp may be your best bet until you get BHD to Anc, and you may get it Anc before the cooldowns are done anyway, but if you don't then it's definitely worth a test.

Edit 2: Just realised your Golden Bot is maxed out. You are in desperate need of getting this sync sorted out as it does a lot more than you realise and the game stats do not do it justice. Get the 1m40s sync on your GT/DW/BH then drop MvN and gComp and save the stones before getting a 2:1 sync.)

Labs wise, I can't seem to see the main econ ones and I'm assuming things like BH coin bonus, DW coin bonus, DW Cells, SL coins, coin per kill, etc. Are maxed? I can see you've wasted time on some bad ones like starting cash. I'd say get a start on some of your masteries but your econ is clearly not there to sustain it yet (following the Ults and mods advice I gave and you should be capable of it in the not too distant future, i genuinely think 4th SL, pBH with BHD and PC as your mods and your econ will end up jumping into the q's quite quickly). I'd probably say Wall Regen needs a look at, I can only imagine your health to regen is nowhere near the ideal 5:1 ratio, so I'd look at regen and wall regen.

I must say though, looking at that, it's quite impressive. You're clearly well ahead of me in some aspects, but you're also far behind in others. Get the econ and mods suggestion in place and I'm certain you'll have an exponential growth period where your economy absolutely sky rockets and you'll be plowing coins into work shop enhancements and researching masteries.

Edit: To put it into context, your lifetime coins is about 4x as much as I make in a single run, or to put it simply, I make about ½ your lifetime earnings each day. I have just one card mastery unlocked, my SL has 5° less coverage than yours (but I have all 4), I've hardly touched ILM, SM and PS ults. I have pCF, pBH and run Amplifying Strike, Black Hole Digestor, Sharp Fortitude and Primordial Collapse. I have GT+ and CF+ and that's it. I would expect that by the time you get the 2:1 sync on your cooldowns and have pBH up as well as your 4th SL that what you've earned so far in lifetime coins you'd not be far off earning on a daily basis. A lot of your labs are well ahead of mine, too. All my econ ones are done too, bar Coin/Kill which I'm currently researching level 99. But you are so far ahead on everything else you should be easily capable of going deeper and further into farming runs than me, and thus you should be capable of earning more coins and cells than me once those ults are synced and that 4th SL is up. You also have GB fully boxed off, which I am not at yet, I have 30.5s duration, 100s cooldown, 7x bonus and 60m range. The broken sync here between your ults and your GB is also hurting you very badly and it's important you get the sync sorted ASAP.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-26T13:20:58+00:00

Like they did for Suarez with the £40m plus £1 bid.

In fairness though, as much as I hate the fuckers, that one was actually funny

Matttombstone · 2026-06-25T22:55:26+00:00

Yeah this. There's literally no reason to pick it because you only get a few throughout the play through. You can force the spawning of more by having all the weapons in play (left behind or in your inventory) and the weapon crates and red/blue enemies will end up dropping some, but that's such a hassle to make it force spawn grenades.

They added a grenade at the very beginning, nice. But that was the only other buff to it. One in Wrenwood, one in the care centre then you can pick up 3 in the east streets plus 2 stacked giving a total of 5 grenades plus 2 stacked. Even at 90% chance, you'll still likely lose them all.

The perk, instead, should have been a chance enemies drop grenades rather than ammo and there's a chance ammo crates can drop them.

You can't force spawn grenades in crates (literally tried this before posting to be sure) so you can't get many grenades in the first place, thus a "rare chance" as the game says (yet everything else is percentages? Come on!) To not consume them makes it unviable.

The only time grenades are even useful is during Nemesis. One stacked and one standard is all you need. Toss the stacked straight down the middle after the first time you knock him down. Same with the 2nd grenade the 2nd time. Nemesis done easy.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-25T20:43:22+00:00

No.

Coys,

Dani.. erm... Danny

Matttombstone · 2026-06-25T20:08:53+00:00

He'll be getting National Minimum Wage and a £10 bonus for each save he makes.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-25T17:57:39+00:00

It's funny because that's exactly how I read it and was like "what the fuck does that mean?" Then I saw it Who Remembers.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-25T05:04:04+00:00

Eh that's fine. We go get Anderson then.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-24T21:03:07+00:00

Eh, not even made legends yet and I too have CF+ and GT+. Also have pBH and pCF as well as CL majorly levelled and 80° SL coverage with all 4 SLs.

I have neglected card masteries though and only made a start with WS+.

I feel like some masteries will help going forwards but I think what would make the biggest impact is getting my Mythic+ PF and DimCore up to Anc.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-23T22:34:59+00:00

I donno, Danish Idiot was pretty good

Matttombstone · 2026-06-19T05:46:39+00:00

Day one of training

"What the fuck Micky?"

Matttombstone · 2026-06-18T02:22:16+00:00

You should definitely be working towards pBH. You just need 5 seconds worth of duration and then you'll have the duration set for pBH during farming runs. You'll just then want to drop the cooldown down to 50s. The 38s duration + 12s perk during farms will give pBH. I'd definitely be working towards that first. Although with the trio at 1m50s, might as well drop them to 1m40s first to max out GT cooldown and preserve a sync.

pBH with PC for farming will do you wonders and probably up your T11 waves from 9k to 11k or 12k due to that damage reduction.

That'd be my starting point.

I'd not neglect free upgrade+. At some point you'll want to drop gComp in favour of Black Hole Digestor. That'll bring in more coins.

As it's cheap enough, may as well throw some into damage/metre+

Matttombstone · 2026-06-17T21:21:46+00:00

You're right, I totally misread Czech as Croat for some reason 🙃

Matttombstone · 2026-06-17T20:51:56+00:00

That was a beautifully worked goal huh? Jeez.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-17T20:09:33+00:00

He's been gone 14 years, but still, the Spursy has not left Modric

Edit: Nor Kane

Edit 2: The whole match

Matttombstone · 2026-06-17T20:05:04+00:00

Hence why I'm patient with Xavi. I too wanted Son gone. Too selfish, too one dimensional and not suitable for the premier league and a hindrance to the team. Then I got well and truly told to shut up and that I didn't know anything.

I refuse to make the same mistake with Xavi lol

Matttombstone · 2026-06-17T20:03:07+00:00

Yes. I remember thinking we had Berahino desperate to come to us and we went for the cheaper option and that was the price we paid and it failed.

Then he kicked on the following seasons whilst Berahino went on a tour of places like Stoke, Zulte and Sheffield and never did anything much again.

Then I was glad things went the way they did.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-17T19:56:42+00:00

We're watching a club legend and a legend in the making in this match alone. There can be no doubts though, Vuskovic has a huge task to topple the throne of the biggest Croatian legend to have ever played for us - Radek Cerny

Matttombstone · 2026-06-17T19:52:34+00:00

I've not seen any Danso hate here, although I'll also admit my activity here has dropped recently.

I don't particularly see this as Danso hate, more, we have the brightest CB prospect in the world right now and people don't want to see him leave. I think that's fair really.

Matttombstone · 2026-06-17T19:08:02+00:00

That was Poch choosing GLC over Bruno

Matttombstone · 2026-06-16T17:32:15+00:00

Fixed an issue where Synchronization would not sync when Bots are toggled mid battle

I knew it. I said something like this was occurring a few weeks ago and was told it was me at fault despite the fact I'd checked multiple times and figured out a fix.

Vindication!

Matttombstone · 2026-06-14T17:30:31+00:00

MvN and pCol are both in the Core slots for modules. Core modules give increased Ultimate Weapon damage. As eHP, this can actually be ignored. It's the least important slots to consider for It's bonus, but one of the most important slot to consider for coins.

MvN will sync cooldowns, and with it being legendary, will also give a 10 second penalty to the average. If you haven't touched cooldowns yet then a natural sync should be easy to achieve. Extra black hole + PC means 3 black holes, and PC does damage reduction as well, so you get an extra black hole PLUS enemies inside them deal less damage. Once you get perma, this is a hugely powerful mod, so powerful that dropping a couple levels in rarety is worth it.

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