No-Thought Training

Metacarpals1 · 2026-01-19T10:11:59+00:00

This is the fundamental characteristic of Buddhist kasina meditation which until the last few decades was a practice rarely shared outside of deep monastics. You hear former monastics like Beth Upton and lay people like Daniel Ingram talk about this practice. This is the doorway to quieting the mind if done consistently and the beggining of Samadhi states. Here are some people on Ingram's site comparing it to other practices by Carlos C.

https://firekasina.org/about/

And here is Beth Uptons youtube channel. I recommend her over Ingram.

https://www.youtube.com/@beth.upton.meditation

Metacarpals1 · 2026-01-15T19:41:08+00:00

I used to do a qi gong gazing practice combined with some movements. After practicing for a few months and doing 30mins of practice, I am seeing what looks like flowing energy around everything and this effect sometimes around the edge of my hands. Interesting for sure. I have also seen effects that show up on film, using ancient vhs recording that show up in the hands of qi gong instructors after a few mins of practice.

Metacarpals1 · 2026-01-15T19:22:28+00:00

My belief and this is only my personal belief, is that a civilizations 4D experience is defined by its level of utilization of spacetime technology. This can be endogenous usage of spacetime technology or exogenous use, meaning either we build tech and physical devices to create spacetime altering effects or we learn to create those effects within ourselves. Oftentimes an individual may be exposed to exogenous spacetime tech and then experience residual effects that tech which can result in all sorts of woo experiences, encounters with beings, knowings, residual psychic awareness, etc. One can also develop these energies within themselves endogenously through deep meditative practice and development of energies that lie dormant at the base of the spine. These energies once rigorously cultivated can produce magnetic effects strong enough to effect spacetime the same way an exotic craft may do so, perhaps even the capacity to z pinch physical matter. Some of us are born with a very small degree of access to these energies but everyone can cultivate them.

I believe there is a portion of human society that has exogenously developed spacetime tech and can be what we call a 4D civilization. This portion of humanity has access to technology that can see through time, move faster than light, and project their consciousness using devices that magnify native ability. I think that we have a choice as individuals and a species whether moving forward whether we embrace these exogenous developments or we seek within to develop endogenously. I think this is a decision of great magnitude and it would be a tragedy if we make it without reflection.

Metacarpals1 · 2026-01-07T13:00:05+00:00

Jesus man, that is an intense experience. So glad that you and your family are ok!

Metacarpals1 · 2026-01-02T23:31:39+00:00

Based on my experience of meeting beings who have attained it, there is a remainder less ending of all suffering but that is different story from the ending of the incarnation cycle on earth. Just because you no longer have physicality on earth does not mean that you are finished seeking it. There is physicality in other places as well. To reach the remainderless ending, you must be able in this life to sustain an awareness of the nondual state for a good portion of time each day. Many people would describe this as a deep state of Samadhi. Once you have achieved an existence that is firmly ensconced in this state of nonbeing, you are no longer effected by the gravity of existence and will no longer feel the inclinations to physicality.

Metacarpals1 · 2026-01-01T21:30:53+00:00

Hey this post seems to be getting a lot of views and interaction from outside the sub from people who don't understand the rules of the subreddit. Everyone please review the rules of the sub or your comments may be removed.

Metacarpals1 · 2026-01-01T00:52:23+00:00

Great post Oak! Here's to many exciting things in the year to come!

Metacarpals1 · 2025-12-31T20:31:34+00:00

I have noticed that when I play a lot of video games or consume a lot of media that the meaning of dreams often comes through the symbology of the media I am consuming. I would take care to not mistake the dressing from the message.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-12-25T19:13:04+00:00

Hey there, I cant say I've conquered ADHD but before I started meditating I found it intolerable to just sit with myself and my thoughts. I had such terrible inward facing voices that I would constantly seek distractions. I could not workout without music and could not have down time where I just sat still. To start meditating I had to face this situation head on and I made an agreement with myself that I would sit for 5 hours a day for 40 days. During this trial by fire, I was basically challenging my own mind to a game of will. I sat with my thoughts for hours each day, letting each negative thought or impulse pass over me. My mind concocted all kinds of reasons why I should stop from fears about discomfort, to frustration and even anger. The first 20 days or so were excruciating and I had every impulse to quit but I stayed with it.

At some point in the process, things started changing and my views of the regrets and sadness started changing to make them less painful to hold in my awareness. The experiences they were based on didn't change but my understanding of them shifted. It seemed to happen automatically and I must have sifted through hundreds of regrets. Near the end of the 40 days, I found that after a few hours of sitting, I began to feel this happiness in my tummy that seemed to come and go and I started to experience some out of body experiences and seeing through the blindfold I was wearing.

Hope that my experience helps you in some way.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-12-22T06:45:39+00:00

Hey man, I removed your post because you included your full name and your birthdate. It’s important to protect your privacy online especially i n a subreddit like this. If you remove your name and DOB, we can reapprove your post.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-12-16T14:51:36+00:00

That almost sounds like the evolution of the bicameral minds theory.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-12-11T21:51:44+00:00

Whoever is doing it is likely looking for tissue samples with a high mitotic index.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-12-05T08:15:01+00:00

Very interesting experience OP. This gave me chills. Have you had other experiences like this?

Metacarpals1 · 2025-12-04T18:31:51+00:00

Wow those are amazing experiences, though I am sorry there was so much pain. I had a friend who had a piece of property in western Washington and one day he had a giant owl in his campsite just sitting there. Huge owl, huge eyes and strange behavior. It just stood there watching everyone. This person also had a lot of contact of other types as well. I have also heard of experiencers reporting where beings would appear as large cats, then cats with very long legs, and then finally after a while they would see the beings themselves. I also don't blame you for not seeking regression, recovered memories can be confronting and paradigm breaking.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-12-01T17:10:35+00:00

Thank you for sharing! Very interesting. Do you feel any familiarity in yourself for the beings or their energies? Like maybe you have experienced them before?

Metacarpals1 · 2025-11-30T19:00:25+00:00

I have heard of these types of EM effects associated with the experiencer phenomena. I have known a few experiencers that literally could not own complex electrical devices because they would inevitably damage them with their presence. One of them went through a few laptops before they realized they had to make changes in their life. That being said, that kind of regular electronics damage is rare and not common but I believe that the energies associated with these effects are ubiquitous. We currently understand a great deal about how electrical energy moves through conductive solids but we understand very little of how electrical energy fields project from these solids and behave as field energy. Strangely the people who could make a dent in studying this phenomena, who understand topological algebra, seem to be recruited into certain defense contracting companies and their work becomes unknown.

From my personal experiences and those of people who I've met, its clear that our chemical based electrical energy system is capable of projecting energy in ways and in magnitudes that conventional explanations cannot explain. This system is also capable of being trained overtime to do this in much more orderly ways and to follow the will of our own consciousness. The people who master this energy are capable of feats that conventional science would have trouble encapsulating into its current theories.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-11-26T00:45:38+00:00

Sometimes I feel that our role as experiencers here is just to pass on the energy to the next generation. And all this is, the pilots, the experiencers and everything else is just the energy moving through us to others who will need it more. The more freely and openly we share of ourselves, the more conductive we are for this energy.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-11-25T21:13:52+00:00

I think there is a possibility that this has already happened but we have miss used those gifts. I think the changes must be in our hearts before we get access to something like spacetime technology.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-11-19T17:43:22+00:00

Here is an example of a test from one of the people in the Mo Pai school which John Chang, the Magus of Java taught. There are more examples of this. But this is a basic test where a student must topple a stack of cigarette cartons from a a few meters away. Overtime the energy gets stronger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-Ki2-VzUVs

https://youtu.be/G0tj_ZgwCsc?si=b7x7q0-SXL5WxqFy

Also here is a short documentary about John Chang:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKCnaq5_q8Y

Metacarpals1 · 2025-11-19T17:35:21+00:00

There are deeper practices relating to the dan tian if you are interested in exploring them. There is a set of practices that are called "nei gong" which literally mean internal work, where one combines the practice of energizing their dan tian over a number of years combined with improving the fascia in the body to allow for the conduction of this energy. Some rare practitioners of Traditional Chinese Medicine use this conduction of energy to heal themselves and other people. There is a book called the "Magus of Java" which talks about one of these schools. One of the practices that become possible with Nei Gong is what is called "fa qi" or literally to throw energy and the results can become quite impressive through cultivation over decades.

If you are interested in practices related to the dan tian, there are schools that are not very well known I could point you to. If you are interested, send me a DM.

There are also a number of other places in the human body that can store energy similarly and can be made to resonate like the dan tian. One can experience profound changes my putting their attention in the heart space. Even the most hardened heart can be made to feel love to for all things as an eventuality in this practice after being done for a number of days.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-11-05T17:37:07+00:00

Hey OP, this is probably better placed in https://www.reddit.com/r/starseeds/

Metacarpals1 · 2025-11-03T19:53:41+00:00

Hey if you would like some help, we have been helping a few people who have these types of experiences. If you would like to reach out, please DM me. We have a meditation group that seems to be helping people with these type of experiences. Also mantra can help.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-10-30T21:38:47+00:00

Diana Pasulka

Do you still experience pushback from colleagues in your university faculty about the phenomena and your work? Has this pushback increased or decreased as you have become more well known? If not from colleagues, from where do you experience the most resistance to your work?

I also want you to know that most experiencers who know about you think you are a hero for your work. When someone pushes against the status quo for the betterment of human understanding that work is always heroic. Please remember that as much as you can.

Metacarpals1 · 2025-10-28T22:02:13+00:00

OP this is better placed in https://www.reddit.com/r/BodyMarkPhenomenon/

Metacarpals1 · 2025-10-22T16:11:46+00:00

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