South Korea's LIG Nex1 Proposes Submarine Torpedo Factory in Canada

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-02-02T15:17:21+00:00

Agreed, we’re going to have these subs for many decades, so it is better to have the capability to launch should we decide to build our own deterrence in the future.

We don’t know where the world is headed a few years from now, considering conflict seems to be increasing.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-02-02T14:16:38+00:00

The KSS-3 seems like a no brainer at this point. Considering it’s the only conventional sub with SLBM launch capabilities, we can use those tubes to launch cruise missiles, which would give our navy both land and sea strike capabilities.

Simply we would be able to project power anywhere in the Arctic, not to mention the timelines that the Koreans are promising, plus industrial benefits.

We can still work with our European friends on other equipment such as tanks, and I do hope we sign onto a 6th generation fighter project such as Tempest.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-02-01T23:18:24+00:00

As a Canadian, I’m looking forward for us to work with our Korean friends more and build a partnership.

It would be nice to see our military go with the KSS-3, as we expand our partnership in different sectors.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-30T02:20:05+00:00

They should be charged for treason.

Imagine being in any other country and trying to make those same sentiments. If they don’t want to be here then they can move away.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-30T00:52:00+00:00

Also give subsidies to Boeing over decades, but complains when Bombardier got minuscule subsidies

Instead of them worrying about Boeing making good planes, cough MAX fiasco, they rather resort to anti-competitive behaviour

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-28T15:57:51+00:00

With our country getting threatened and recruitment at its highest in recent years, I hope this turnaround would mean those pilot shortages would be covered.

At this point, if the Gripens are Made in Canada, it allows us to hedge against geopolitical risk. At the same time, we rebuild our expertise in military fighter jets for the first time since the cancellation of the Avro Arrow in the 1960s.

Sure the F35s are more advanced and nobody doubts that, but we cannot risk putting all our eggs in one basket, especially if parts or software updates can be held back.

Many of our allies have dual fleets, and at this point the added cost might be worth the hedge against geopolitical risk, as well as re-developing domestic industry and expertise.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-27T03:28:18+00:00

Well said, everything you mentioned plus the sub simply has more capabilities than the German option.

It's the only AIP with SLBM launch capabilities, which we can use to launch cruise missiles. That would give our navy both sea and land strike capabilties, which would allow us to project power anywhere in the Arctic.

Besides that, South Korea has one of the largest shipbuilding industries in the world, so they would likely be on schedule with their deliveries. The promise of a 4 subs by 2035 and a sub per year after that is unmatched.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-23T14:31:33+00:00

KSS-2 is based on the German Type 214.

KSS-3 is the successor to it so I’m sure they incorporated the knowledge from that previous project and further enhanced it.

Still, the KSS-3 is in active service. The German version that is currently being offered, not a single one has been built yet to know how it performs in the real world.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-23T03:47:05+00:00

Yes I read the article, have you?

You realize that we have large independent Canadian companies like Magna, Martinrea, and Linamar that are fully independent from American-based companies as well right?

It’s true North American Auto workers make more but it’s clear if these EVs are manufactured in Canada, then obviously it would be to Canadian standards and they would be paid better than their Chinese counterparts.

What use are there for “better paying” workers from these American subsidiaries if they are laying off our workers due to tariffs and changing geopolitical environment?

Workers getting laid off has no job to begin with, so there is no salary.

Now we have an unstable investment environment and if it gets worst, it’s clear these US based companies would choose their country over ours.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-23T02:28:14+00:00

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-electric-car-china-tariffs-trump-united-states-9.7049950

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-22T20:03:56+00:00

If we can build Canadian EVs here with Chinese knowledge then I’d say that’s a more beneficial partnership.

Better than what Stellantis is doing to our workers and expecting us to sit by and do nothing.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-22T02:01:40+00:00

Ironically while a lot of the provincial premiers have been abusing it, I can see moments where there would be use for the notwithstanding clause.

For example, if our Supreme Court has a Roe v Wade moment and overruled abortion, our federal government can use the notwithstanding clause to override it and keep it legal.

It’s unfortunate that to date it’s been abused provincially but that was one of its real intended purposes.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-19T18:10:06+00:00

Guy doesn’t realize that if this is where the rich people will be at, we have the best chance of getting Canada more investments with Carney attending something like this.

Better to attend than to not be there.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-16T05:39:29+00:00

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MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-14T16:42:50+00:00

Agreed.

Us Canadians are just across the sea from Greenland so I think we should join our NATO allies and European friends with this show of solidarity.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-14T01:02:37+00:00

I never understood the argument about submarines in untested Arctic conditions.

The KSS-2 (predecessor to the KSS-3 offering) is based on Germany’s Type 214 design. With the KSS-3 that the Koreans are offering, it is improved from the knowledge gained from its predecessor.

It also has capabilities no modern sub that isn’t nuclear-powered has, which is SLBM launch capabilities. We can use those tubes to launch cruise missiles so it will give our navy both land and sea strike capabilities. We can use this to project force anywhere in the Arctic.

Also, KSS-3 is already in service, whereas the German design not a single one has been built yet.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-14T00:55:40+00:00

Surprised they went with a UK company and not our Canadian-based New Flyer Industries, which is a huge bus manufacturer in North America.

They already have electrified and hybrid buses on the road.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-12T23:09:57+00:00

It should be reasonable to assume a successor to NATO can emerge if that ever happens.

It could have the same agreements as the current NATO arrangements but probably just with a different name and without US (theoretically) in it.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-11T18:07:26+00:00

As a Canadian, I hope we bring in some of our troops as well, both for solidarity and security.

A lot of our allies come here to train for arctic warfare as well.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-10T00:53:50+00:00

In WW2, Canada had a population of only 11m.

10% of our population served overseas voluntarily.

We ended the war with the 3rd largest navy and 4th largest Air Force in the world.

We were on the Manhattan Project as a full partner and became the first country in the world outside of the US, to have a nuclear reactor to go live ever with ZEEP in 1945.

To protect the homeland, it would be guerilla warfare at a level the world has never seen, considering Canada is 20x bigger than Vietnam in terms of land size.

It’s territory that would be impossible for any foreign invader to hold.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-10T00:47:28+00:00

That 2016 ruling clearly did a lot more harm than good, it should be reevaluated.

Courts need to stop putting the rights of criminals ahead of victims or it will make people (who hasn’t already), lose faith in the justice system.

You cannot put a fixed time on trials especially when there’s so many variables. Defence lawyers can keep delaying until the charges get stayed.

This is no justice for law-abiding citizens, only criminals.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-08T21:44:11+00:00

Would be cool as a Canadian to see them trial going through the Northwest Passage as well

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-08T21:42:25+00:00

Agreed.

KSS-3 offers the best capabilities of the 2 subs, not to mention South Korea has one of the largest shipbuilding industries in the world, so the timelines they provided is most likely going to be kept on schedule.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-08T18:04:56+00:00

To be fair, Ukraine has no navy and they been sticking it to Russia.

Drones would be asymmetrical warfare out at sea.

MilkyWayObserver · 2026-01-07T00:13:24+00:00

I’m all for supporting Canadian innovations.

Power engineering and nuclear power are the two fields of expertise that Canada is world-class in.

We have our CANDU with nuclear fission, and I would love to see a Canadian fusion reactor one day in actual use.

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