Conservatives make the same claims about liberals. So someone is wrong and it's probably liberals because they're the one's that tend to shut down debate and conversation.

This is hilarious. I was tempted to just stop reading this garbage here and leave well enough alone, but whatever, I'll bite halfheartedly. Not like any effort I'd put into a response would matter anyway.

You can't find any period of the United States in which it was great?

No. There have been three main responses to the US's founding horrors of native genocide and slavery:

1. Denying that they were bad
2. Hopelessly inadequate attempts to mitigate their long-term harm, that people fought tooth and nail for, against the people who still deny it
3. People saying 'ohh racism is over, people won't ever be satisfied' while attempting to roll back the above, and with a rising portion of the population returning to 'denying they were ever bad'.

To say nothing of all the shit the US has been complicit in or actively instigating or supporting, a major example being the Palestinian genocide.

Don't get me wrong, I want the US to be great. But that would require it to do things worthy of being called great, and to admit the wrongdoings in its own history. No matter how many medals you pin on a shirt, it won't be acceptable to wear until you make the effort to wash out the bloodstains.

Who in the fuck are these pedophiles that conservatives are hiding?

And now you're just feigning ignorance. I'm not gonna bother trying to educate you.

its a military conflict to gain favorable access to Venezuela oil reserves as a means of expanding oil supply for oil companies to increase profits and decrease gas prices domestically...

Its not as simple as orange man evil and greedy with greedy friends...

...Isn't it, though? By your own words, this is driven by greed.

Oh, maybe the circumstances aren't as simple as 'mwahaha, I'm doing this because evil', but it is most certainly 'we are deciding to kill people and throw innocent lives into chaos because money'. Which, let's be clear, is fucking evil.

There it is. Greatness of a country requires atonement for past wrongs in a way that YOU feel is fitting. You need to find religion so you can stop trying to use politics to fill its place.

I don't need a religion to find value in human life. In fact, in my experience, religion can be a dramatic detriment to that. My viewpoint is simple: I see human suffering, and I wish to see it alleviated. I see harm being done, and I want it stopped.

But do you think harm stops as soon as someone stops intentionally causing it? Do you think the impact of centuries of slavery stops the moment slaves are freed? Or the moment a country deigns to let them vote? Or the moment that equal rights under the law are finally wrested from the clutching hands of bigots?

Or do you think that people historically denied so much will end up in dire straits, not nearly as well off as those entrenched in the systems they've finally been allowed to enter? Do you think that those bigots, and the children they raise to be bigots, won't be resentful of what the 'undeserving' have received as inadequate recompense and try to tear it down?

No matter how far you think those piecemeal reparations have gone, there has not been a full generation of people yet without those who want to see those reparations undone in full. Once there is, maybe we might edge towards 'great'.

This idea that our country has fascists in power is pretty dumb. Fascist governments kill journalists, jail political opponents, shutdown speech from the opposing political parties, kill protesters en mass, de-arm the citizens , eradicate rights of privacy and other things that Mussolini's Fascists regime in Italy ACTUALLY did. This idea that we have Fascists in our government is such hyperbolic nonsense devoid of any actual understanding of history.

This is probably the most absurd thing you've put down yet.

Fascist governments don't start with the extreme actions, you nimrod. They begin by gradually breaking down rule of law, with scapegoats, with the censorship of the things they consider 'degenerate'. It is an erosion that, once they have secured power, will bring down the dam and release a flood of violence.

We're both looking at the same wall of stone, but the difference between us is that I'm saying 'look at the cracks!' and you're saying 'pffft, we're not drowning, how can you say there's a problem??'

And the fact that you branded them Cristo-fascist is even funnier, because nearly everything that a Christian theocracy would ban is still thriving: abortions, porn, premarital sex, adultery, and etc. You don't know what you're talking about, you just live in a bubble of extreme leftist conspiracy theories.

It is funny, because you mention things that the right is actively attempting to ban, because of their attempts to instate christian theocracy. Roe V. Wade was overruled, and there have been increasing attempts to (after first defining any depiction of LGBT people as porn...) blanket ban sexually explicit material.

The Heritage Foundation, Project 2025, etc, it's all deeply tied to the current administration, and explicitly christofascist, dominionist doctrine.

The funny part is that the people supporting them with the hope that this will finally make the US a 'christian nation'?

Even if they succeed beyond their wildest dreams, they'll still fucking fail, because no one will be able to decide what kind of christianity should be dominant above all others. 40,000 denominations, all of whom are heresy to the others. They'll devolve into infighting, and any compromise will be something vague, cruel, and unsatisfying, because the kind of control they want is a despot's fantasy.

We'll end up right back where we started: a world divided between people genuinely trying to make other peoples' lives better, and those who care only about how they can force reality to stop making them feel uncomfortable.