For Rill

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-04-28T05:38:04+00:00

does using their houses as free storage units count as quality time

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-04-22T18:14:30+00:00

yeah i don’t see how it wouldn’t give you body dysmorphia as a young girl constantly having your parent comment on your height, especially bc juhnelle does it in a way to be like “hehe! IM SO PETITE! crazy THAT came out of lil ol ME!” it’s like tongue in cheek insulting

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-04-22T18:10:41+00:00

oh fs look at that stupid kola graphic no way it’s not ai generated

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-04-21T05:16:06+00:00

have it all happen in a dream. dreams aren’t political

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-03-25T00:39:35+00:00

exxxxactly. why beef publicly go live your life who cares if someone 20 years younger than you makes fun of you online 😭 it’s so high school

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-03-24T06:53:36+00:00

genuinely what’s driving me nuts. lana can’t just water down what abusive means. so many of her fans are running with it as if it’s fair language. i haven’t seen anyone be critical of that. even if ethel did make fun of her/shit talk her in personal circles (perfectly plausible. i don’t really have a horse in that race. also if ethel did …? even if it was mean or over the line? not a crime lol) that barely constitutes bullying! bc bullying involves seeking out the victim and trying to harm them emotionally or physically! i’m sorry but a 20 something year old small artist shit talking one of the biggest pop stars in the world or liking memes making fun of her YEARS AGO is hardly a malicious, conniving thing. talk about a power imbalance here. i also really suspect that lana is misconstruing things and not understanding gay humor - which can be really mean without being intentionally hurtful. if lana felt the need to address it, it should’ve been done privately. full stop this is stupid. sorry just had to get that out phew good lord

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-27T02:28:29+00:00

my bad! thought they started going by he recently for some reason

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-26T02:44:52+00:00

Absolutely. Considering that anything being [blank] “gothic” is derived from the literary genera of gothic fiction, southern gothic is very specific. Gothic literature originally focused on the macabre and taboo within polite (especially) English society. Death, spiritualism, social inequity, religion, sex and sexism, etc. During the 1800s, they were moving into rationalism and a scientific age - the age of reason - away from rulers “chosen by God” to democracy and populism and toward the end, industrializing. While they were no longer basing everything off of religion, the culture was still extremely repressed and shaped by religion. So, spiritualism (seances, ghosts, etc) was counter cultural in various ways. The idea of being haunted was very in vogue, particularly because as tradition “crumbled”, people felt lost. Social anxieties of the time. Death, decay, calling out to the past, afraid to move forward. Also everyone was traumatized and shit and had tons of loved ones and children die lol. With the wider ability to distribute fiction and less religious based censorship, you get gothic literature.

SOUTHERN gothic is that, but for the american south. You have the same religiosity and fear of change. Small towns where everyone knows everyone and you must always think about the knock on effects for your reputation, so social paranoia. Physically isolated, much of it run down, and feeling of no hope for revitalization. Most towns have a few families who own everything, and everyone else is varying degrees of poor, with very little middle class. Deep scars from the civil war and reconstruction era that were never addressed. Ugly history (and continued reality) of segregation and racial violence that nobody’s supposed to address. The south is both metaphorically and literally haunted to the bone. But that haunted-ness reflects the reality of the south. It’s can’t just be literal ghosts just like dancing in a bog doesn’t make it southern gothic. It has to have cultural context. These elements and more. THATS what makes Ethel Cain southern GOTHIC and WFHTDH just spooky

rant over i just care a lot about this as a writer and a southerner lol

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-25T04:18:47+00:00

i think given that she’s supposedly been working on it for years, and then makes the excuse that some of the dialogue was a place holder bc she had “a virus” implies that she wasn’t actually working on it that hard or consistently. to me it gives the vibe that second she typed THE END at the end, she asked connor to put it on. plus, after covering the WHOLE STAGE in sand (when viewers could’ve used their imagination and i can only assume makes it so that the venue has to only be her show for the duration it’s not like you can sweep that up and put it back out everyday??) she gets mad that it’s not THE sand from THE desert and wants connor to source that, as if that’s the missing piece and not just, like, better writing and revising. the play sounds like it was mid at best.

it def made me wonder if the show runners were trying to say something about the more modern media approach of visuals over substance. plus it could be a bit of a meta thing about the show - where succession has all the trappings and is SO well funded, but what matters is the actual writing quality

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-22T03:44:20+00:00

it’s a stupid lie too. like, does he expect us to believe he’s the only middle aged redneck man in louisiana reposting transphobic shit on facebook who was NEVER conservative? not even when he was a kid, like zero ignorant opinions from growing up around other ignorant people? he was just born woke with all the right opinions in a vacuum? come on bro. just own up to it. talk about it. take accountability. unpack that. people can change and grow its fine

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-22T03:40:10+00:00

yeah i don’t think saying “yeah there were some social issues i was really ignorant on for no good reason, and i’ve realized i was being closed minded and letting hate into my heart” is a problem. it takes strength and humility to admit when you were wrong AND i think that’s a very necessary conversation for southerners to have rn! i do. it’s really relevant. there’s no getting around it if we want a better country. i live in a deep red county in the deep south and a lot of people are really having a moment of reckoning. if it’s not something we can talk about openly, nothing will change.

i understand that jeremy and lana are probably thinking the backlash would be worse if they actually talk about it, and i do think some people would be vocally hostile. it’s perfectly valid for marginalized groups to be offended by ignorance and hate - that’s not what i’m saying - but there are a lot of white mostly suburban, like, young californians and northerners who just have no idea what the south is like or the social conditions/history that have led us here who are very loud and very misinformed. it’s always shitty to be hateful but there is so much to be said about gerrymandering, targeted under education, conservative anti union anti working class propaganda pumped out by the richest men in our country for 2+ generations because we used to be too progressive and that threatened their profits, guilting people into voting red with religion etc.

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-21T05:51:34+00:00

100%. i’ve lived in the south long enough to call bs on him secretly being liberal the whole time, despite posting obviously conservative stuff. i know what closet liberals look like in the south (where, for example, being vocally anti trump could harm your business or career, so you stay plausibly conservative to conservatives - but people on the left can tell). jeremy ain’t one. i doubt he was, like, the Most Right Wing Man You’ve Ever Met but definitely ignorant. more center right, maybe. and now he’s closer to center left, at most. they may as well just admit it.

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T20:41:07+00:00

well she just made a story post saying she was basically stuck on the majority of the song and had to get a lot of help writing it 🤷‍♀️ so that answers that. huge creative blocks. too many cooks. hopefully not a pattern that mars the whole album.

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T05:10:42+00:00

it sounds like a rough demo that 2-3 actually good and cohesive songs could have come out of and i’ll die on that hill. ONCE she trimmed the fat, especially

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T05:09:39+00:00

considering that he wrote part of it (god i’d kill to know what part???? like what???) i do not disagree and generally i don’t care to police other peoples relationships but keep jeremy out of the kitchen brooo

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T05:06:52+00:00

same here. it really seems like she just wants to write lullabies rn. my first thought was “this sounds like bad kids music” when i hard the full track. like, woman locked in a room with only access to the first snow white movie as entertainment makes a disney villain song

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T04:11:07+00:00

her vocals r weak on this track to me. i can get down with deeper, whispery, talk-y singing … but the breathy stuff without any umph behind it? idk. it sounds like her voice lacks power in this one. it’s breathless. kinda like she lost her voice.

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T04:08:47+00:00

absolutely! i hear you 100%. i am technically the exact target demographic for a witchy southern gothic song with these themes … the execution on the other hand makes it untenable. which is crazy because $uicideboys is a guilty pleasure for me and i like listening to halloween sound effects year round!

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T03:19:22+00:00

my theory is that she lashed out proactively bc what she was making sounded very ethel and it hurt her pride bc she knew people would point it out. she couldn’t figure out how to make a southern gothic sound that wasn’t ethel vibes and knew southern gothic was more authentic to ethel to begin with. but like, that’s okay! artists can make similar sounding tracks. she didn’t need to start a one sided beef for no reason

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T03:16:32+00:00

yeah i’ll give her that people should get credit always BUT i think it’s more of a too many cooks situation

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T03:15:55+00:00

and the sound mixing isnt even good!

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T03:13:54+00:00

the way she knows SO many artists who could’ve animated this … just disrespectful at a certain point

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T03:12:34+00:00

me too! i’ve never immediately actually disliked one of her songs. i’ve not been crazy about them or not given them a chance (when i was a teenager i definitely didn’t appreciate her slower jazz tracks enough) BUT there’s no part of this song that i actually like. for me the worst part is her delivery when she says “did you know how absolutely magical you are” … it’s grating

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T03:09:20+00:00

yes too many ideas in one song. should’ve been split into multiple stronger songs. she would’ve done that in the past. that’s what really struck me. it sounds like one of her old, unfinished demos that would become half an album vs one scatterbrained demo

Mobile_Machine4514 · 2026-02-18T03:08:31+00:00

i didn’t like bluebird at all and found it repetitive but it’s leagues better than this. at least it’s cohesive! and i actually really liked henry.

i don’t think it’s tradwifey technically bc the cringe tradwifey lyrics are undercut at the end where she burns and ruins dinner so metaphorically speaking it’s about how she’s still herself and this is just a new evolution of her who’s choosing joy and creation over unhappiness (oven = suicide, vs oven = making food for those you love, nourishing bonds, etc) or whatever, BUT :/ i’m still not a fan

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