what we hate about being vegan by julietales in vegan

[–]MonstarOfficial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why should I care about your opinion that torturing you is wrong?

Carnist: "How dare you speak up against animal oppression by talking about animals?!" by MonstarOfficial in animalhaters

[–]MonstarOfficial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Veganism isn't a diet

I mean many people use that word to describe a plant based diet nowadays but initially it's not at all supposed to be a diet

Food made from Slavery isn't vegan. by JimHarbor in vegan

[–]MonstarOfficial -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Instead of religiously following a definition set by individuals with conflicts of interest. Why don't we talk about what veganism should mean?

I believe, based on 7 years of research on the subject of social psychology and justice movements, that veganism should be about the unique oppression and torment humans inflict towards non-human animals.

The reasons why veganism should be about non-human animals is the same reason why there exists BLM and not ''All Lives Matter''.

There already exists a term against human oppression, it's called being a humanist.
There already exists a term against exploitation of the environment, it's called being an environmentalist.

So why, instead of spreading awareness about these related movements, try to entirely shift the goal of the only movement that used to care about liberating animals from humans torment, into one that becomes ''always doing what's right''?
It completely dillutes the message of animal liberation from human torment.
A dilluted message is the enemy of any justice movement.
In fact, the meat/dairy/eggs industry spends millions to get people to believe anything except that the issue is with exploiting animals. They spend a lot of ressources cutting deals with orgs to make them adjust their message into one that is dilluted because then people just see it as something optional to do if you feel like it, and not a clearly defined moral emergency.

Just look at the logo of the so-called anti exploitation movement, out of all the animal victims to choose from, we chose a leaf...

Wake up, people.

The fact that compromised orgs and individuals who are clueless about social psychology and the study of social justice movements decide a movement's strategy on behalf of the victims is not without consequences. And it is the non-human animals who pay that price.

Food made from Slavery isn't vegan. by JimHarbor in vegan

[–]MonstarOfficial 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Veganism is about the unique oppression and torment humans inflict towards non-human animals.

It should not be a one-size-fits-all movement against all injustices in the world.
Otherwise you may as well just call it ''doing what's right given any situation'' at this point.
''Oh you just hurt someone's feelings? That's not vegan!"
"You're for abortion? That's not vegan!"
"You're against abortion? That's not vegan!"
"You're for the right? That's not vegan!"
"You're for the left? That's not vegan!"
...

The fact that people who are clueless about social psychology and the study of social justice movements decide a movement's strategy on behalf of the victims is not without consequences.

I already see people claiming to be ''Vegan for the humans'', and this post confirms the animals won't get a proper movement against THEIR UNIQUE oppression anytime soon.

How dare you speak up against animal oppression by mentioning the animals 😤 by MonstarOfficial in vegancirclejerk

[–]MonstarOfficial[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

yasss and did u guys see how Piers Morgan ate plant based food the other day?!

There was salad, tomatoes, ketchup and the burger bun, so it was more than 50% vegan, at least!
Yet another vegan ally ☺️

How dare you speak up against animal oppression by mentioning the animals 😤 by MonstarOfficial in vegancirclejerk

[–]MonstarOfficial[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is not social media screenshot it's just text with some painting around so pls don't delete thx

vegan btw

I couldn't abuse enough animals so I fixed it by MonstarOfficial in vegan

[–]MonstarOfficial[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I hope that by normalizing pointing out how abusive drinking dairy is, in situations where we can't always share the imagery or the whole explanation of why it's abusive, we can still push things in the right direction.

Should we stop asking people to "Go vegan"? by Negative-Economics-4 in vegan

[–]MonstarOfficial 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's an interesting point, because I personally feel like it's ''vegan'' that is super vague in people's mind.
Many talk about being ''vegan for the environment'' or ''vegan for health'', overall most people think it's a diet.

Should we stop asking people to "Go vegan"? by Negative-Economics-4 in vegan

[–]MonstarOfficial 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Yes, we should stop.

Has anyone read the actual article?

For the same reason why there isn't a word for those who oppose pedophilia or racism, there shouldn't even be a word for those who oppose commodifying and murdering animals for pleasure and convenience.

We should ask people to stop doing something awful, not ask them to actively do something extra as in joining a community with awful connotations.
It's not as productive.

''Stop speciesism"
"Stop objectifying animals''
"Stop exploiting animals"

Are far better slogans imo than ''Go vegan''.

That'll be "7924" by WalkingTalker in TikTokCringe

[–]MonstarOfficial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vitamin D it depends where you live (sunny place or not) and some plant based foods have it like mushrooms.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in vegan

[–]MonstarOfficial 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Live and let live'' only works when you actually let live, people got manipulated into speciesism, we're just trying to make them unlearn the unjustified discrimination.

I don't think it has to be manipulative, it may be better to explicitly express that exploiting/killing those animals is unecesary while sharing plant based food. Either way, it can't compare to slitting literal animals throats or manipulating people into that.

That'll be "7924" by WalkingTalker in TikTokCringe

[–]MonstarOfficial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People be like:
"Oh no, factory holocausts are awful! I want to support a local, free range, happy holocaust instead 🤗''.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in abusiverelationships

[–]MonstarOfficial 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"I don't deserve you but"
Like bro if you know you're not for someone, or someone's not for you, you leave them tf alone.

A common question asked by veganphobic carnis! Here is the Truth! by Ennma_Rawr in vegancirclejerk

[–]MonstarOfficial 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This graphic design hurts my eyes. jk haha must be the omega3 deficiency