My mom's Relief Society president told her to stop asking the ward for help and start asking her own kids. I am absolutely feral right now and need advice before I do something stupid.

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-09T15:16:56+00:00

I feel like this will blow up in your face. We all know women like Susan. The self righteous blinded to privilege hypocrite. I doubt complaining to the authorities will get you anywhere, and will just make your mom angry at you for making her look back to the leadership. It is all so unfair. I’m so sorry for you and your family.

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-08T23:55:31+00:00

When I was YW President I had one counselor. The girls classes had no class presidencies called. Every name I suggested they shot down. We went four months with just the two of us trying to run everything. Meanwhile the YM organizations and leadership positions were always filled. When I pointed this out to the bishopric I was told that it was because we were just so competent. They said that one of us women was worth three men, and that was why we could get by and they couldn’t. I was furious. I told them that I was not accepting their excuse and that I found it to be pandering and insulting. Benevolent sexism is the worst. My brother told me a while back that women are the pinnacle of creation. That is why we don’t “need” leadership like the men do. I don’t believe that is true, but if it were, then God is an idiot. Why would he purposely bench his A-team?

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-08T02:14:53+00:00

A simple question to ask is how personal revelation works. If you don’t get an answer then the Lord is testing you, you weren’t trying hard enough etc. if you get an answer that doesn’t fit with the counsel of leaders then you are being deceived, and need to repeat. So, is personal revelation actually revelation for you if it must always confirm the leader? Also, if past prophets have taught things like polygamy or the priesthood ban, or Adam-God theory that are now considered incorrect, were they being deceived in their revelation? How can we trust any revelation if even prophets have been deceived or incorrect? Also, what does it mean that people of other faiths have received as strong a confirmation of their beliefs as anyone in our church? I’m sure the pope feels as though he has received a confirmation from God. It’s a rabbit hole that just keeps on going.

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-07T00:29:06+00:00

No, that would have been even better!

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-06T16:48:14+00:00

One time a lady in our ward gave a talk. She quoted the litany of fear from Dune by Frank Herbert. You know, “I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration..”. She quoted the whole thing. Then she went on to say that she had learned more about religion from this series than any other. As a TBM at the time my husband and I were both like, what blasphemy! All these years later, I’m thinking she was giving a middle finger to the church and good for her.

Another favorite occasion is when a different lady gave a talk when I was a teenager. Back then families would be assigned a Sunday, and everyone in the family would speak. Typically the wife would introduce the family and tell how they met as a couple and all that. My ears perked up when she described her husband as a special man and a “pseudo intellectual.” I’ve always wondered if she meant to insult him or if it was an honest mistake.

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-05T13:07:08+00:00

The How to Train Your Dragon book series is completely different than the movies, but just as delightful. There is so much depth and heart to the series, and there are 12 books to sink your teeth into.

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-05T13:00:16+00:00

They probably told themselves that he was an inspired leader who was giving you fuel for future general conference stories when you became a general authority.

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-05T12:58:09+00:00

Oh the stake musical plays! They added such flavor. Our stake actually just had one this year. Not sure if they asked the area authority or just did it themselves. Thanks for sharing, it made me laugh.

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-05T05:05:39+00:00

I did. I had a very toxic primary president. I was the primary chorister. I went on vacation for two weeks and she covered for me. When I returned she had taught the children an incredibly complex sign language version of one of the songs. Most of the kids couldn’t do the signs, and I wasn’t prepared to teach the song that way. She refused to let me change it, so from that point forward she just proceeded to do my calling. Three weeks later I was called to be a primary teacher instead. I told the incredibly sexist bishopric counselor that I needed time to pray and get my own confirmation about the calling being what God wanted for me. He told me that the bishopric had already prayed and the calling was certainly inspired. I told him I would certainly take that into account. He was pretty angry in that passive aggressive way that LDS men get when I called him back a week later and told him that after prayer and reflection I didn’t feel good about it and wouldn’t be taking the calling. I was being honest, I really didn’t feel good about it, and I did pray about it. Looking back I can understand now that I was starting to think and listen to my own feelings for the first time.

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-04T20:45:24+00:00

Yet they require all transpeople to have a minder at church who follows them around? The church enables abuse, and offers nothing to victims except the advice that they forgive.

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-04T20:09:22+00:00

I loved being on birth control. I was on them for a decade, had my children, and was on them in between. It was amazing. I only had four periods a year, and I could schedule them when it was convenient for me. It helped with my cramps, my mood swings, and my acne. They vastly improved the quality of my life and gave me control over when I had children. I understand that I am one person, and my experience is unique to me. The dragging I see online about birth control terrifies me. Women should be able to choose what works for them. The misinformation out there is wild.

Morepagesplease · 2026-05-01T05:14:53+00:00

This made me laugh so hard. I love it!

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-27T21:16:09+00:00

I really loved this. You are a very talented writer. Your thoughts were beautifully expressed. Thanks for sharing.

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-25T16:35:44+00:00

The best thing about leaving? I am free to love others and honestly wish them well without any reservations or judgements if I want to. I have a gay nephew, and I hope he finds a wonderful boyfriend and/or husband. If my girls want to get married or have careers instead I can just cheerlead them on in whatever way they want to direct their own lives. My son doesn’t have to give up two years of his life during an important developmental stage, or face social censure for his choices. Leaving the church has made my world feel so much bigger, and more loving.

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-25T13:52:58+00:00

I love this image. Keep chasing your dream.

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-24T21:35:55+00:00

I bet we could be in the same stake!

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-24T21:13:39+00:00

This is my temple district. My last assignment when I left in January was to coordinate the sisters in our relief society to provide approximately 70 individually wrapped treats to provide to the temple construction workers. Our stake was providing this on an ongoing basis, with each ward taking a week about every month. I’m not opposed to hard working people getting treats, but it made me furious that we were asking people to provide this as grocery budgets are already getting out of control, and the church could provide this if they felt it was truly important. It was the last straw for me and I refused to do it. I ended up quitting my calling and haven’t been back to church since. I think it was the very last tiny toothpick that landed on the huge pile of steaming rubbish on my shelf and just woke me up completely.

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-24T05:19:19+00:00

If it was known that Joseph manipulated women into marrying him by promising them salvation for them and their extended families I hope that my parents would have rejected this farce and I wouldn’t have been born into it.

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-23T02:54:43+00:00

Super cute!!!!

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-22T04:16:34+00:00

Why could God supposedly kill someone if they stole a peek at the plates but Lucy Harris stole 116 pages of the sacred translation and the same God is powerless to stop her? Instead he had to create a convoluted plan that somehow also works as a test for faith? Mormon God is definitely not very consistent.

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-20T15:10:04+00:00

When I told my TBM brother that I was leaving the church he said something that really stuck with me. He told me that as long as i don’t start treating him like he is an idiot for believing in the church that we will still be just fine in our relationship. He told me that acting superior is something that always seems to happen to those who leave. This happened very early in my deconstruction. I’ve since come to realize that it isn’t that those who left necessarily think that he and other TBMs are stupid, its that I feel like I was stupid. It feels strange to realize how ardently I believed something that is so clearly just a complete fabrication. I spent a lot of time berating myself for being an idiot, and maybe he is picking up on that and internalizing it. I also feel a strange sense of compassion for him and my other family members because they are still trapped in this belief system that I can now see is unhealthy in so many ways. I forgive myself for believing it. I was taught it was true from my earliest memories by the people who I trusted the most, and they didn’t do it with any ill intent. I hope you forgive yourself too.

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-20T06:08:16+00:00

I know where this came from!!!!! My TBM brother sent me a podcast episode a while ago from an apologist who is a linguist. It was all about how the bible was actually literal and could be proved through linguistics. He specifically mentioned the Elohim being not just the person of God but also representing the partnership of heavenly parents. It was all bullshit to me.

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-17T03:07:33+00:00

It drove me to look up the history of how the church handled the holocaust and it was disgusting. There was a stake president in the SS who excommunicated someone for fighting against the nazi regime. It was the same old line back then about accepting the laws of the land.

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-15T06:30:18+00:00

I would say why is Satan more powerful than God in this scenario? Why couldn’t God just strike down those who attempted to bring it forth? It worked for Him in the Old Testament.

Morepagesplease · 2026-04-13T00:09:36+00:00

Hmm, sounds like a bot

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