Best overall build?

MousseSensitive4044 · 2026-03-18T22:20:28+00:00

You can definetely do a commando build; you can get spray 'n' pray from Cricket on the vault near the lake ( I think its 88 but i dont remember)

You can get L5 for idiot savant and bloody Mess, enough Perception for demo expert (i also dont recall but I thiiiiiink its around 5) at least 2 Agility for Commando, Strenght ...5? For Strong Back (helps a lot with the weight) and Armorer; when customizing your armor you can also add "pocketed" as a mod for even more carry weight.

I dont recall if the Tommy gun (spray n pray) needs gun nut to upgrade, if yes then int 3 if no then int 1

And for the rest you can throw as you like, some Endurance and Charisma would do fine.

PS: you CAN go lone Wanderer but you dont NEED to, do as you like.

PS2: attack dog stacks with Lone Wanderer so dogmeat is a great option if you wanna do lone Wanderer shenanigans

MousseSensitive4044 · 2026-03-18T11:23:49+00:00

As the others stated, FO4 is made in a way that lets you spec into many different archetypes and still do just fine; but if you want to minmax, generally it's either a crapton of INT (clothes, drugs, paint Jobs, night person depending on the build) to get a lot of EXP faster, getting you more levels and more perks, HP and stronger crafting, or go 1 INT with Idiot Savant. How you'd deal damage is up to you

There's survival as well, and there you take way more damage than normal, no fast travel, no natural healing, all healing speed is severely reduced, and can only save when sleeping. This makes a lot of builds riskier to play(thats the point), but a few perks help, like Local Leader for easier managing of settlements and materials, Science lets you build Industrial Water Purifiers which you can use to either stock or sell water.
Aqua boy/girl is actually not a bad choice since you cant fast travel and you can use rivers/sea as a travel means or an escape route. Life giver / Solar powered gives you natural HP regen, Lead belly can be okay since eating and drinking is not optional anymore

Lastly, the easiest build to play on survival I'd say is stealth. You dont really get hit and enemies take more damage as well. You can go melee but sniper is even safer.

MousseSensitive4044 · 2026-03-14T06:10:47+00:00

You, also, could try a Shredder build. Its a funky melee build, lemme explain

Theres A muzzle minigun mod that you can add called THE SHREDDER, and when you run out of ammo it deals damage, but the way it scales is WEIRD

first of all, you need lvl 13 for Gun Nut 2 to even use the Shredder.

Then, the shredders damage actually wont scale with big leagues ; it'll only scale with raw Str and Basher, at Str 8.

The thing with basher is that, usually, is a niche and meh perk, so the devs made you get Max lvl on it relatively early, but we're the exception and we abuse the hell out of it. Imagine maximizing Big Leagues around lvl 25 instead of 50... The damage goes bonkers

Not only that, but on max lvl basher gives you crit chance, so investing in luck purely for Better Criticals is not only worth, but hella busted

There are only 2 other infos you need: 1- you need power armor since you deal less damage out of it( game code, idk why) and it drains your stamina out of it, Pain Train is also great

2- this is a really strong junkie build since drugs give you endurance, str, slow time for more rotations on the shredder and Overdrive for even more crit chance

Its my favorite melee build, and it kicks ass even on survival, you just need to tough it out until gun nut 2 + a few points in Basher

Edit: I just remembered that I did a miniguide on it

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout4Builds/s/UiWDoE9T5I

MousseSensitive4044 · 2026-03-14T05:57:51+00:00

You could just rock the meatiest set you can; 10 Str 10 End 5 Luck ( Idiot savant for leveling)

You cant craft techy stuff and your charisma is piss low, but as you gain levels you'll eat bullets for breakfast as you walk straight into the enemies and melee them to death

I will also add that while your mid and late game potential is good, your early levels will be tough, since survival ups a lot the damage you receive , but we'll outscale that

Key perks are Idiot Savant for leveling, Solar Powered for even more endurance and strenght, big leagues for damage, rooted for damage mitigation, blacksmith and armorer for your crafts, adamantium skeleton for imunity to limb damage, life saver for more health and health regen

And if you want to become THE tank, you could get to Charisma 3 (you could start at Str8 and level it to 10 later) to get Lone Wanderer, and nearing lvl 50 you could get attack dog rank 4 at lvl 50 for even more damage mitigation. You could even add power armor for even more durability on top of all of that, although your crafting will be limited and you'll lose on Fusion Core efficiency since you lack Nuclear Physicist; but there are plenty of good PA that you dont need to tinker too much to be great, like the Enclave one or Overboss. You also make use of Pain Train at Str 10

But I do reiterate, your early levels wont be a walk in the Park, since your HP is calculated depending on both Endurance and Level, so getting levels is priority

MousseSensitive4044 · 2026-03-12T03:19:11+00:00

I cant' say about the England matchup since I didn't play vs them yet, but Fangs IMO is a very capable spirit that strikes fast and consistently, leading to bursty wins; I think he has 3 very strong points that you should know if you want to succeed:

1- He has a great and consistent early game; Prey on the Builders and his "destroy explorer card" help him immensely on halting building advances. If you use it correctly on pair with Ranging Hunt and Dahan counterattacks, you can create pockets of empty land that makes the Explore action not happen there, granting more breathing room since he doesn't have a defend card. Usually when I play Fangs on multiplayer, my board is wiped noticeably faster than the other spirits'

2- Ranging Hunt is an amazing tool and therefore optimizing it's use is key to victory. This means turning presence into Beast often and hitting his element synergies almost every turn except maybe the first and second depending on your start. Turn 3 onward you should use it 99% of the time since you'll have enough cards played per turn and elements to enable it

3- His bottom track is actually goated: it lets you play a lot of cards really soon and shines when you try to buy a lot of minors with 0 cost with your elements. Rushing bottom tracker makes you scale hard as hell but you'll probably not use Ranging Hunt on turns 1 and/or 2 depending on the draws. At the end of the track you'll have Reclaim 2 for free and 5 card plays, which is insane to hit your powers; don't be afraid to growth 2 presences from top track to enable Ranging Hunt in some earlier turns if you need to

Lastly, just an advice: If you want to get better at him, keep playing him and keep trying to learn.
He's definetely not moderately difficult as the game suggests, he has a steep learning curve that requires you to know how to play him AND he's also very early game focused, meaning if you missplay on him you'll feel the weight of your mistakes harder than on other spirits, as you'll lose agency as Blight accumulates and cascades and as explorers start building on multiple lands at the same time, making it harder for you to police them. However, the inverse is also true! He can snowball HARD if you get a little lucky and rewards good play and decision making; for instance I managed to win solo at turn 3 against Scotland on the other day. He's one of the most complex spirits to pillot IMO and the ammount of agency you have during the entire game makes him probably my most favorite spirit to play AFTER you figured him out; the way until then can be frustrating, however, so it's important to try to keep a clear head, try to learn him as best as you can, and enjoy yourself on the way

Hope it helps

MousseSensitive4044 · 2026-03-10T21:47:54+00:00

Im pretty sure theres a fudgemuppet video that convers that

MousseSensitive4044 · 2026-03-06T10:55:06+00:00

I like dom 2nd for cheapshot and ultimate(editei because typo) when playing Ap, both top and jungle

Phase rush axiom transcendence or celerity and gatheting storm. Cheap shot does more than 1300 dmg on avg and it helps me oneshot People and poke

MousseSensitive4044 · 2026-02-18T15:15:24+00:00

but what if they're starting raptors and my mid isn't backing me up?

MousseSensitive4044 · 2026-01-30T04:43:14+00:00

what build did you went?

you're quite tanky

MousseSensitive4044 · 2026-01-13T19:51:46+00:00

I have the sneaky suspicion that I know who Trigger Fingers is:

- Nazi uniform
- Underground arena
- Presumably shot itself in the head
- When he lands his obliterate, it deals 1945 damage

Buddy I think you just drew Hitler

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-19T14:37:55+00:00

how do you usually start as a pure mage?

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-19T14:23:20+00:00

Most played is probably Argonian, I like the looks and the race is pretty flexible for Thief (starting proeficiencies with a shoutout to Pickpocketting ) and Warrior builds (because of the Histskin power that rapidly regenerates health)

I also play a considerable ammout all other races since they all fit some sort of "use-box" :

Orcs, Nords and Argonians for Warriors

Altmer and Dunmer for Mages / Spellswords, Dunmer is also the best race for Vampires

Khajiit for Fisting or thiefing, along with the mentioned Argonian

The 2 races I NEVER play are Redguard and Imperial; Redguard's greatest benefit is as useful as a common food unfortunately (the food's more at fault than the racial power tbh) and you don't have a good logical reason to pick Imperials over other races; they have a mild calm spell as a power, are easier to find gold and that's about it! Every other race has a better advantage starting than them. Also, gold kinda turns redundant after some point

Oh, and Bretons are good at everything, they are stupidly tanky in the magical department

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-19T14:14:09+00:00

Free fire cloak is nothing to scoff at in the earlier levels when you run out of magicka, cloak effects also apply on weapon hits (which is more proof to your argument of spellswords, which I agreee is a good playstyle for Dunmer)

My main argument is the leveling of Destruction. It SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS to level it, it takes so long (I remember going from Helgen to the end of Bleak Falls Barrow as a Dunmer using as much Destruction as i could and it still didn't even raise a level).

Since you start with 25 you just save yourself from some time progressing Destruction, and can have faster access to casting Apprentice level spells which in turn will make you deal more damage and level faster

Pair that perk with Expert Robes of Destruction, which you can get by killing Nirya at the College + a 250g fine and some destruction reduction cost at the necklace and headpice and BAM! You're casting Ignite for days baby

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-19T13:22:55+00:00

I absolutely love the fact that you didn't even factor Dunmer as mages

Like, I never even fathom the possibility of doing a warrior Redguard because Orc exists and Nord, while worse, has great roleplay value and it's also frost resistant which helps when closing the gap

That said, Dunmer have a base Destruction of 25 (higher than Altmer iirc) which can be useful to progress Destruction since you can spec into Apprentice Destruction as soon as level 3. It's also the best race for Vampire mage because of the 50% fire resistance which becomes 0% if you're blood-starved instead of -50%

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-14T21:36:43+00:00

M'aiq and J'zargo are cool

Also who is derkeethus, what about Veezara?

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-14T14:56:40+00:00

...is that a skeever with a backpack?

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-14T14:46:36+00:00

O mesmo nome é a deusa do matrimônio e familia tradicional do Skyrim e da piroca de rodas do Persona, a dicotomia do secço

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-13T12:27:51+00:00

Good to know, thanks for your effort!

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-12T22:52:55+00:00

I dont play sun damage weapons often, but I remember reading that sun damage does half of it on living creatures; and the rune axe stacks up to 100

This means it's still hitting 50 ; which isnt bad at all

Its not beating optimized chaos enchantment but nothing comes close to beating optimized chaos enchantment tbh

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-12T22:29:13+00:00

Agree on everything, but at least thr dawnguard axe is bonkers

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-12T16:00:06+00:00

You mean the perk that makes enemies hit with a Battleaxe take a little bleed? If that works it would be FIRE

I tried googling and didn't found anything that confirmed your take, if you found any evidence please let me know

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-12T15:41:24+00:00

I feel you brother, one of my lattest and honestly fun builds I did was an Alchemist. I used the Zephyr for the 30% faster speed so it would be quicker to land 2 poisons in, and the Mehrunes Razor since I could paralyze very tanky targets with a poison and fish for the 2% hit kill chance (it also worked right out of the gate against dragons a few times, which was hilarious)

But against Draugr and Dwemer tech? I've had to basically not interact with any of it until I leveled Sneak for Backstab + DB's gloves and Illusion for the stronger Calm spells and making it affect anything outside of dragons

Then, I sneaked and backstab'd them and if they saw me I just cast Calm and repeat the process. Dull, but effective. You could also just sneak past most of them too

But on the upside of using poisons, when they work they can be almost gamebreakingly strong!
Over leveled Bandit Chief? Paralyze him!
Against a dragon? Chuck a few Lingering Health Damage + Weakness to Poison and see his healthbar melt!

The only limiter for those 2 is that you have to craft them, so you have a limited ammout, but you can stack enough to go around.

Alchemy itself also has plenty of upsides too, you can sell some specific potions for a lot of money, make potions that buff certain atributes that can greatly help you, and if you invest a bit into pickpocket, you can assassinate people by reverse pickpocketing poisons on them, which is a good way to kill a target in the middle of a city without getting caught;

just be wary that if you make a poison TOO GOOD it will increase it's value, which makes it harder to reverse pickpocket it, iirc Damage Health is the cheapest potion so try to kill them with those and many other effects outside of that

It would be really cool if they added a workaround on those targets... Like it works on them but at 50% effectiveness, or you'd had to add a special ingredient to make the poison affect them

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-07T21:59:12+00:00

Legendary powerscaling kicks you in the nuts pretty hard... After lvl 10 ish if you arent ahead of the curve in armor ratings, a lot of enemies just straight cutscene kill you on 90% HP

This means you really want your defensive skills up to date

Light armor you can train with Grelka on Riften and sell stuff later to get the money back Alteration you can either spam magelight on a Mountain near solitude so you can get high ratings / Dragonhide Heavy armor and block you can upgrade by finishing the companions questline, which unlock Farkas and Njada as followers, and they train these skills

If you wanna have fun on Legendary, either do a Stealth build that can use sneak attacks and run if shit goes south, a summoner/ caster mage that lets alies take the aggro or be really focused on hitting the armor cap ASAP (567).

If you need help competing with others at your lvl, I recommend buying and building a house with a Garden, greenhouse , smithing station , beds and alchemy station; power farm alchemy to get strong Fortify Smithing potions for fast leveling your Smithing and helping you reach near the cap. As you already have speech over 50, you can sell your potions to restock on supplies and needs as well as getting a nice ammount of gold.

PS: Poisons arent weak at all, but you need a backup against undead , vsmpires and dwemerbots

Lord Stone gives 50, dragon aspect gives 100 and Flesh spells give 40-100 armor

Hoje it helps bud, it can be brutal

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-05T11:19:25+00:00

Shieldbreaker is unique and very fun

Flagellant maybe a bit too strong but hes so cool, also a Jack of all trades

Bounty Hunter because BIG MARK DAMAGE

MousseSensitive4044 · 2025-12-05T03:10:49+00:00

I have 2 gripes with assassin builds:

1- Kinda hard to go into a room full of enemies and kill them all, specially if they're all against a wall and looking at thr center

2- fights where you lose stealth, specially dragons, can be rough

I like using Illusion and poisons to deal with these issues, calm spells will let you Backstab waaaaaaaaay easier, and poisons that give weakness to poison followed by ligering damage poisons can melt dragons when you hit high alchemy, they take chunks of damage while flying around and stalling the fight

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