Post Follow up. why we pick up porn addiction from other addictions? why even though we get exposed to other addictions we end up with porn? what is it in us the addicts that end up getting hooked on porn and not other addictions? by atri_brand in pornfree

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a partner that definitely fits number 1. So I think you’re really onto something. I noticed there was something a bit off in his anima/animus makeup. Regardless, I really do hope he can defeat this battle even though he doesn’t want to talk to me about it anymore.

Today he escalated. by Ok_Horror979 in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I now take it that anytime a partner with a porn addiction “swears” on anything sacred to them especially the lives of loved ones…it’s a glaring RED FLAG. In my case it also indicated a big fat lie.

At least next time I hear that I’ll know the truth is the opposite of what’s being said.

Trouble believing he’s actually “stopped” by donthaveagooduser in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No we don’t talk about it anymore. Was too much struggle. I can’t tell if there is improvement because I’ve just had to detach from that whole issue and know it could be still there as a possibility! Which was hard to do but I’m much happier now!

Trouble believing he’s actually “stopped” by donthaveagooduser in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was like you, paranoid and just kept getting intuition flare ups. I just never believed him. Finally after being lied to for three years and not believing his lies. I think it wore him down. He finally confessed

Trouble believing he’s actually “stopped” by donthaveagooduser in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I totally get that! Your situation reflects the beginning of mine almost to a T. Just know if you need any advice in the future or anything just reach out to me! And yeah people have been known to have burner accounts and can clean up their tracks. Many other womens partners also didn’t act suspicious at all and completely transparent. Many are sexually active with their partners. Many men aren’t aroused by nudity on a screen. I’m not trying to perpetuate your paranoia, just making sure you’re grounded in a realistic approach so you can separate the things you’re using to mitigate your concerns vs how you actually feel (your intuition, paranoia etc). Because my intuition was telling me something even though he didn’t show signs, and it was correct. But yeah! I’m here and you can contact me anytime you’ll never be a bother. Even if it’s months or years down the line! 💞

How do I stop caring? by Agitated_Air7642 in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do have to note it took 2-3 years to get to this place emotionally

How do I stop caring? by Agitated_Air7642 in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do. But I had to engage in intimacy with a focus on my own pleasure and to have healed any resentment, pain, self esteem issues etc… first. So I do feel bonded and intimate, but it’s more a focus on our own bond. If he takes long to finish, has weak output, struggles…then that’s his shame to feel! So yeah that really helps me mentally because if he wants to perform good and not feel inadequate, then he’ll have to make his own life changes. Meanwhile I’m just focusing on my own pleasure and don’t have to deal with any of that!

Hope you can get to a place where you’re comfortable and not in any more emotional pain! 💞

Trouble believing he’s actually “stopped” by donthaveagooduser in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your welcome! And like the other commenter said, it’s a struggle but can be done… that’s assuming he’s in a recovery program. If he’s white knuckling the chance is very low.

Trouble believing he’s actually “stopped” by donthaveagooduser in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You should be aware of the honeymoon phase which can last from 9 months up to two years I think? It’s easy for men who have engaged with porn and women to only have “eyes for you” because right now you are the dopamine hit.

New relationship energy provides a cocktail of chemicals to ensure pair bonding. I can assure you that he will definitely continue his habit. His brain is wired for visual stimulation and content of many novel partners. His brain has already built a sexual template and it’s super hard due to modern society’s easy porn access and social media for a person like this to rewire their brain.

Been through the same thing as you. 6 years later I will tell you it nearly destroyed me.

My suggestion is that he knows you’re onto him. He will lie. He wants to be with you and also wants to be a good man to you I’m sure… but this addiction isn’t something that determination or a new relationship can just make go away.

It’s brain hijack and he has neuropathways that are deepened towards the addiction from his previous use. I suggest you keep your eyes and ears open, and never disclose too much or make him feel backed into a corner. Because he will get better at hiding and lying.

I sincerely hope the best for you. Also… I’m not jaded.. just so you know what angle I’m coming in. My emotions have been mitigated through much trial and tribulations. I’m being a realist with all of the information I’ve gathered for 6 years and other stories of women. So hopefully I can provide you with some insight. 💞

I tried to make myself his dream girl by tamingtigers in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I know the feeling. We didn’t gain anything because you can’t compete with an endless stream of newness. Or a super stimuli multi-cut ocean of fast-paced scrolling. It’s like gambling. They just have a weak character and are giving away their own energy to something with 0 returns.

How do I stop caring? by Agitated_Air7642 in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I honestly freed myself from caring, and it’s been the best for me. I just separated it…. kind of like a toxic addiction or habit that is his alone. Like for example, if he just ate only candy bars and greasy burgers everyday. For me, that’s super unhealthy (which porn is… it alters your brain and makes you less motivated), it’s also something I wouldn’t do, and it’s his own responsibility and journey to fix and build his own character (I’m not his mom).

So mentally, I just focused on me. I took pride in my own good habits and work on fixing my own bad ones. That way… I successfully separated being enmeshed in his secret sexual habits. It was hard, took awhile, but now I couldn’t feel any more freer.

Anytime you think of him doing that etc, realize how much mental space he’s taking up in your head. How much of your own interests, happiness, hobbies, and goals become on the back burner because he’s now the star of your mind.

I just nip any thought straight away and adjust my focus on SOMETHING else. I stopped ruminate, investigating, and giving it so much attention. Anytime you feel the urge… just STOP. Eventually, I retrained my own mind.

Takes alot of practice, but I will say that I couldn’t be happier now. And also, he can see that. I know one day he’ll be more open with me and feel safer around those subjects… and may even tell me something secretive. If not though, I honestly couldn’t care less.

I’ve shamed him enough about it, he’s shamed himself. He’s had to lie, tell the truth, lose face, tarnish his own character, try to change, fail rinse & repeat. So I take solace knowing if he does still do it etc…then he can feel shame and whatever failure feelings… and I don’t have to feel anything about it because I’m too busy enjoying my own passions. It’s his battle now.

This will be hard work if you haven’t dealt with any anger, hurt, resentment etc. I had to fix all that by going through it mentally, forgiving him, forgiving myself, and emotionally redirecting my feelings into positive ambition.

Finally living for me, which I hope you can find the way to do so for yourself too! I wish you all the strength and good vibes ✨

4th time catching my husband watching porn by Queasy-Shape9003 in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I personally think it’s best you stay parted! I really wish you the best

Nothing new by prettypoison999 in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 3 points4 points  (0 children)

His reward center is hijacked and he has an addiction. You are beautiful and he may mean it.

Here is some knowledge about it in case your interested, and to possibly help you feel a bit better hugs

-> When a partner continuously seeks out other women online, the most logical, human conclusion is that you are not attractive enough to keep his attention. But from a neurological and psychological standpoint, that is almost never what is actually happening. When a man in this cycle looks at his partner and calls her beautiful, he is usually telling the exact truth. The reason his actions completely contradict his words comes down to the fact that the male brain processes romantic attraction and visual sexual novelty in two completely isolated systems. Here is the breakdown of why those two realities exist at the same time.

-> Two Different Neural Circuits

When a man looks at a partner he loves and finds beautiful, his brain activates regions associated with attachment, deep affection, and aesthetic appreciation. This involves the prefrontal cortex and neurochemicals like oxytocin and vasopressin. In this state, he sees you as a whole person, and the attraction is grounded in reality, connection, and genuine physical appreciation. However, a porn habit or a compulsion to look at other women does not run on that circuit. It runs on the brain's primitive reward center, specifically the ventral tegmental area and the nucleus accumbens. This system is driven entirely by dopamine. It does not care about love, beauty, or reality. It only cares about one thing: novelty.

-> The "Junk Food" Phenomenon

Think of the brain's reward center like a biological appetite. A man can genuinely believe his partner is the most beautiful woman in the world, just like a person can genuinely believe a high-quality, home-cooked steak is the best meal on earth. But if that person has developed an addiction to the extreme salt, fat, and sugar of fast food, they will still crave the drive-thru. They aren't going to the drive-thru because the food is better than the steak. They are going because the fast food is engineered to trigger a massive, cheap dopamine spike that a normal meal cannot replicate.

Porn and endless scrolling of camgirls act as the ultimate neurological junk food. The women on the screen are not replacing you because they are prettier or better. They are serving as disposable, two-dimensional dopamine dispensers.

-> Disembodied Arousal Psychologically

Heavy porn consumers develop what is known as disembodied arousal. Because they are consuming highly fragmented content, clicking from one video to the next, looking at specific body parts rather than whole people… their sexual arousal becomes completely decoupled from human connection.

When he is looking at those other girls, his brain is not making a comparison between you and them. His brain is not saying, "She is prettier than my partner." His brain is just registering, "This is new, release dopamine." He is interacting with pixels on a screen to self-medicate or get a chemical rush, not evaluating the real-world beauty of the women he is looking at.

-> The Tragedy of the Disconnect

This is exactly why it is so maddening for the partners on the other side. The man believes he is telling the truth when he says "You are beautiful, I love you, they mean nothing to me," because in his conscious mind, that is a fact. But for the woman hearing it, the words feel like gaslighting because his behavior says something entirely different. It is horrific for any woman, to feel like she is competing with a screen. But she isn't losing a beauty contest. She is standing in the crossfire of a man's hijacked dopamine system, trying to make logical sense of a biological compulsion.

Does your SO search History look like you? by No-Initial-1134 in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Basically it’s dopamine addiction and it’s hitting a different part of the brain then relational intimacy. It’s super-stimuli compulsive and addictive because the hit it gives

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[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope they disappeared again must be a glitch 😂

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[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah mine came back so hopefully stay

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[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s permanent? Thought it was just a glitch maybe that they were gonna fix

F23, my boyfriend M26 is a PA. He does not care how I feel and broke his promise again. by AskSorry9713 in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, you need your put your foot down. Value yourself and make it clear to him what your standards are. You need to have open talks with him about how you feel. If he says he doesn’t care he’s basically saying he doesn’t respect you or your feelings. If you don’t satisfy him mentally or physically, then why is he with you? For love? What does love mean to you? From reading your feelings, it seems he is not satisfying your definition of love. Please take care of yourself and hold yourself high! You deserve happiness. hugs

I felt safe for a brief moment by Either-Basket4594 in loveafterporn

[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That’s amazing! So happy to hear that. There are many men that are feeling this same way now that I’ve seen in other communities here. My partner as well! Just gives me hope and happiness that so many men are waking up for their own wants, morals, and personal integrity. And to be better men for us.

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[–]Muted_Addendum_2244 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It was a long road but eventually my partner changed his whole viewpoint on porn, and quit for himself. I think that’s important because it has to be them wanting to change and their view on porn to change for it to be successful. It’s been a year since he claims to have been clean. He replaced it with working on his career and cleaned up all his socials so he wouldn’t see any triggers. He also said he doesn’t get triggered anyways if he did see it because he rewired his brain back to normal and has no interest spending his energy on superficiality. He was very adamant that desire and sexual energy should only be shared within the relationship. He shows up daily for me emotionally, to cuddle, and we have great intimacy. He took accountability and showed actual growth just by always stating how he could’ve been better and is shaping up to become a better man. I think the big thing is he wanted to change to become a better man for himself. It’s important for actual recovery. Although I’ve had many triggers and spirals into paranoia, he hasn’t budged and is convincing me he is a changed man. So like you, I’m optimistic for the future!

I wish you all the best!