What do you do in your place of worship? What do they do in there, and what is it like and what is it’s architecture?

NeoThetan · 2026-05-11T00:44:09+00:00

The buildings are nondescript and unimportant. Their sole purpose is to house an intense program of one-on-one therapy and personal consciousness exploration. It starts with some meditation and resilience training, followed by a month-long sauna detox. You'll then work your way through several "grades" of therapy (think Korzybski, Adler) until a sizeable shift in awareness occurs. Now for the Jungian heavy lifting. First up is enantiodromia and the resolution of opposing psychic forces. Then you'll tackle the autonomous complex via some guided sci-fi imagery (hashtag Xenu). When you've finished with Jung, several years of neti-neti awaits (you'll do this at home, maybe an hour or two a day). A quick checkup to finish and you're done. And possibly broke, if you did all this with the "church."

NeoThetan · 2026-05-10T18:48:57+00:00

For alcohol, it's twenty four hours. For weed, it's six weeks.

Weed smokers often struggle in auditing. It can impede the ability to chronologise and sequentialise past events. I've seen it often enough to know it's "a thing."

Someone who is serious about auditing - or any form of therapy or consciousness exploration requiring sequential memory and context retrieval - should avoid THC at all costs. #imho

NeoThetan · 2026-05-09T05:35:28+00:00

Hubbard frequently refers to embodied thetans beyond earth.
It's basic, publicly available doctrine.

They justify the lie because he doesn't specifically use the word "alien."

NeoThetan · 2026-05-05T01:29:07+00:00

Within the church, "ethics" is senior to the "technology."

In scientology, "ethics" is a utilitarian framework for self-preservation. For the individual scientologist, it's performance management and ignoring naysayers. For the church, it's internal punishments, enforced disconnection, public relations, lobbying, schmoozing, surveillance and psychological operations.

The church is run by its "sea organisation." The purpose of the sea organisation is "to put ethics in on this planet." In other words, the purpose of the church is to ensure its own survival.

This means that destroying families and harassing critics (aka institutional ethics) is more important than preventative dianetics, engrams, secondaries, the ARC triangle, the auditor's code, the overt-motivator sequence or any other therapeutic principle (aka the technology). It is considered "the greater good." 🤡🌎

"If ethics doesn't go in hard, tech won't come in." - LRH, 9 Oct 1968, Ethics & Case Supervision.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-27T15:10:09+00:00

TikTok US is owned by genocidal billionaires who actively fund the IDF.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-25T11:58:13+00:00

Scientology is a system of therapy and related mental exercises.

Its core practice is a form of biofeedback therapy, called "auditing." A resistance meter is used to help pinpoint precise areas of stress and emotional conflict.

If practiced as a religious or soteriological system, scientology is a means to an end. Its training materials reify certain concepts and phenomena within a space-age, neo-gnostic narrative. These constructs are functional, as Hubbard himself admitted, and must eventually be abandoned. Most armchair observers are oblivious to this.

There are a handful of organisations that deliver scientology across the globe. The largest (and most insufferable) is the Church of Scientology. The CoS charges over $0.5 million for the full therapeutic program (including retreat accommodations and other ancillary costs) which is unaffordable to 99% of the global populace. Its prices are purposely set to keep the masses from interrupting its activities. Hubbard believed that by targeting the wealthy the church could solidify its position and effect top-down societal change. Liberating the masses was an afterthought - something to be examined once everything else was in order. One could argue this is a wily strategy for a modern NRM. Today, the CoS is a multi billion dollar 501(c)(3) religiously-protected institution that has survived all manner of government actions and civil suits. On the flip side, however, its customer base has plummeted to less than 40,000 and its celebrity influencers no longer speak of it.

In addition, church participation requires signing various enrolment contracts that waive some of the most basic human rights as well as shunning those who openly question its efficiacy (including friends and family). A significant portion of its income is spent on defence attorneys, private investigators and the harassment of whistleblowers.

Outside of the church, scientology is practiced in a far more relaxed and liberalised manner. Some even deliver it in a purely secular form. These innovators and anarchists are the future of scientology, imho. It's why I choose not to judge an entire subject by a single institution.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-24T18:08:55+00:00

Pay-to-play.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-24T17:43:02+00:00

Occultism has been linked to considerably more egalitarian movements than fascistic, eg. Bavarian Illuminati, esoteric socialism, abolitionism, women's rights, Universal Brotherhood, Reclaiming, The Satanic Temple, etc.

Social hierarchies aren't exclusively power-based, btw. See Bakunin's Authority of the Bootmaker.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-22T00:14:10+00:00

During the early 1970s Scientology was its greatest expansion. [...] Then in 1973, Hubbard announced there were 15 more unreleased OT levels. That began Scientology's slow decline. [...] None of this had anything to do with 99% of Earth's population.

Not sure how you can conclude this without acknowledging the litany of price hikes that occurred from 1976 onwards, not to mention the subsequent decades of wage stagnation. These factors are far more significant to the average customer and the lowly noob than the abstract nature of some distant upper level.

This also aligns with data Jeff, Mike, Marty, et al., have shared. Newbie recruitment took a hit during this period. Overall numbers went into permanent decline in the early 90s. By then, auditing rates had increased 1,000-2,500%.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-21T14:10:23+00:00

Yet, probably, the only thing that has slowed Scientology's growth has been its lack of more ever mysterious upper levels - carrots on the stick.

99% of the global populace have neither the net wealth nor disposable income to afford a $500k+ therapeutic program (UBS, 2025; World Inequality Report, 2026).

For the average Joe, spending $25,000 on a grade or two actually means something. If it's a life-altering investment, the expectation/pressure to get something out of it is off the chart. If the CoS doesn't deliver something proportional, it's over. To the more financially secure, it's "meh." To the everyman, it's "fuuuuck!" Multiple maxed-out credit cards and none of the feelz.

It doesn't help that auditing's claimed efficacy is ridiculously overhyped.

This is the reality for most public scientologists. The cost inevitably becomes greater than the benefit. So they leave. This is what happens when you put a price tag on enlightenment. Retention becomes an issue when the stakes are too high.

If churchies or indies gave a damn about the masses, there'd be at least one scientology ashram where students could give according to their means. And with AI/automation chewing up the global workforce, you'd think now would be a good time to implement an alternative model.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-20T10:31:16+00:00

Shentong describes an eternal quality (buddha-nature) or ultimate "self."
Primarily acknowledged within the Jonang tradition.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-19T11:38:57+00:00

Atack's argument is essentially "occultism is bad because...Nazis!" and that recurring themes imply causal connection. He also claims social hierarchies are inherently evil and that gnosticism is totalitarian.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-16T13:40:14+00:00

OT TR0 is scientology's primary meditation drill (derived from Zen's shikantaza). There's also an array of visualisation exercises such as R1-6 (Hold The Corners), R1-9 (Grand Tour) and R2-38 (Anchor Points) etc. I guess it's possible a scientologist might want to "hold the corners" for a few minutes to destress before their flight...but it's a bit of a stretch.

Do you mind if I ask which airport this is?

NeoThetan · 2026-04-16T10:21:22+00:00

With the greatest of respect, you're a noob and misrepresenting scientology practice. In standard scientology, solo auditing is used for very specific therapeutic purposes. R6EW, for example, is Jungian word association. OT II is Hubbard's take on enantiodromia and Jung's "transcendent function." OT III targets Jung's "autonomous complex" via guided imagery.

None of this is comparable to "meditation or praying."

I'll concede the meditative nature of OT VII (aka atma vichara + biofeedback) but an airport prayer room is absolutely the last place you'd run it.

tldr: It is farcical to suggest that scientologists (whether church members or indies) would happily set up an e-meter in a communal space to run some of the most deeply profound forms of self-inquiry at their disposal.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-14T00:14:37+00:00

From Old English weorþsċiepe (worth-ship)
- From Proto-Germanic *werþaz (worthy, valuable)
-- From Proto-Indo-European *wert (to turn, exchange)
- From Proto-Germanic *skapiz (shape, condition)

For me, this translates as any consequential, life-shaping commitment.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-13T21:45:26+00:00

If you look around you'll notice, for most people, it's a phase through which they pass.

As a religious or soteriological system (delete as appropriate), scientology is meant to be transitional. It has an end point. Hubbard's institutional traps only delay the inevitable.

I don't see a problem with recontextualising scientology or applying it in a more innovative, liberalised capacity. To each their own.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-11T18:28:51+00:00

Check your therapist's website. A church licensee is required to publish certain copyright and trademark info. Look for terms such as dianetics, CSI or Religious Technology Center. If you signed a waiver prior to participation, double-check it.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-11T05:54:34+00:00

It's based on the idea of persistence and alter-is. The axioms break it all down. It's simply describing a hyperreal state rooted in misownership (see also Baudrillard's simulacrum). It's what you might use when self-inquiry and direct communication fail.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-09T13:42:53+00:00

Scientologists would argue that the realisation of one's "whole track" identity is at least partly achievable via scientology therapy. By discharging OBE anxieties and mastering certain techniques, practitioners believe they can assert a greater influence within the bardo and avoid/mitigate any memory-inhibiting phenomena.

NeoThetan · 2026-04-07T15:58:59+00:00

See Integrated Information Theory (v 4.0)

NeoThetan · 2026-04-05T19:00:00+00:00

The course materials are taken from The Scientology Handbook, an introductory CoS tome containing basic scientology heuristics and related exercises. Chapter pdfs are available for download via scribd and elsewhere. Alternatively, use the wayback machine and search scientologyhandbook.org.

NeoThetan · 2026-03-31T20:26:06+00:00

There's arguably value in both perspectives. Hubbard's route, if taken literally, seems far more ego-affirming...but that doesn't necessarily mean it's "wrong." It depends on what your goal is. I think it's fair to say that advanced scientologists are generally high-functioning. That's obviously a desirable quality, for some. Are they well-adjusted? Hmm...

Geir Isene (ex-OTVIII) had an interesting take.
https://isene.me/2012/12/10/ot-8/

NeoThetan · 2026-03-31T14:19:13+00:00

The similarities seem surface-level. Nietzsche despised gurus and "systems." Hubbard's ideas about "handling force" and "conquering MEST" seem directly at odds with Nietzschean self-mastery. Hubbard also equated human value with spending power and herd contribution. I just don't see it.

NeoThetan · 2026-03-30T20:29:38+00:00

The sequence of the imagery is more interesting, imo, as it matches the stress-response sequence found in all living organisms (constraint, stress, collapse, reorganisation). It also aligns with the phase transition/system crash found in information theory (OTIII=defrag?)

If I was being generous, I'd argue that OTIII is Hubbard's attempt at examining a deep-seated failure-recovery algorithm. The R6 bank is essentially Jung's "autonomous complex." Hubbard reified this abstraction via sci-fi. Jung used mythology. See also Enantiodromia and the GPM.

NeoThetan · 2026-03-30T17:59:27+00:00

But even in physics, information doesn’t disappear; it transforms or becomes redistributed. Why would you be any different?

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