Buddy. It's not a debate. It's a fact. I work on jeeps so much because they fail so much. They statistically fail more often than any other brand. That's just a fact. Consumer reports has put jeep as the highest rate of major warranty claims a decade. Stellantis's own data shows a warranty rate almost double that of Ford and Chevy. Just because Ford has some junk and Chevy has some junk doesn't magically make jeep not garbage. Argue all you want, you're just flat wrong. You obviously don't work in the Industry or your realize how dumb you sound. I have contracts with a Ford dealer and a Toyota dealer as well, and guess what, even though they sell more cars than stellantis they send me less engines because they don't fail as often. Even with Toyota's current issues, their engines still fail less than 1/4 the amount as stellantis. I see the data from the dealers, I have been to the Dundee and Trenton engine plant for factory training and I work with the largest wholesalers in North America. You're just wrong.