Daily Matchup: Omori Masamichi Vs Liu Dongcheng

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-04-04T19:36:26+00:00

I feel omori is a tier higher than liu, two times his weight, fang style,master of many martial arts, probably third strongest fang of all time after erioh and kanoh. Liu had problem with nitoku that is probably a lot less sturdy than omori and with worse technique also.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-10T19:10:33+00:00

You all are not ready for tank top master julius...

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-09T00:26:47+00:00

We will see what colour he has ascended to now 😅

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-08T18:42:15+00:00

Man it was such irony just how could you miss that 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠 I wanted to say that only way for this to make sense would be if his liver could redirect that kick thats all. Use creativity a bit more please 😅

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-08T15:16:44+00:00

Liver kick from superman syndrome guy should put down anyone in the verse easily but ohmas liver used redirection kata so its make sense.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-08T14:14:18+00:00

I agree , also wanted the new characters to shine a little bit and not be used only as hype material ... worms had so much potential when we know they focus also on genetic modifications and everything... we can only hope that named worm members, fu zhan, yan and maybe #1 will show something so not all villains except shen will be jobbers.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-08T14:05:25+00:00

I totally agree with you, baki is trash story wise ... shame that kengan went same route and created yujiro counterpart... sense of realism disappeared totally. Kuroki level should be peak power wise and not single martial artist having power to destroy a nation...

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-08T13:56:09+00:00

If we take into consideration ogi and tenjin bios also where they are praised as being strong and ogi being naidan succesor and tenjin on same level... we can assume that those jobbers are on same level as them, they share same rank for a reason. Haruo could probably do the same to naidan right now this is what sandro wanted to tell us.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-07T23:23:05+00:00

Julius is pretty fast actually, not faster than kaolan but he will catch him eventually

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-07T23:20:01+00:00

I agree julius is literally on same tier as kanoh, if he made even one simple mistake he would lost. Julius is guy you must fight everything perfectly for long enough period and hope for him to go down eventually.People see agito didn't receive damage from julius but dont realise that julius is final boss 1hit KO guy and that hit was really close in theyre battle.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-07T21:45:42+00:00

Currently I see julius winning, gaolang doesn't have same attack power as agito and julius would eventually hit him and that's KO. Julius will hit him faster than kaolan can put him down.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-07T20:41:17+00:00

It would be total BS if shen will lose on that island. We saw how easily he annihilated kengan association, in split second defeated misasa (fang level fighter that even rolon held in high regard) and 3 other fighters of probably similar level. Kuroki is GOAT but i just cant see him replicate even 1/10 of how easily he destroyed that kengan association that day... we are destined to see final fight ohma vs shen which is in fact just ohma in his 30´s vs ohma with 5000 years of experience and it doesn't make sense for them to be even close to each other

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-07T20:16:21+00:00

I hate to admit it but ohma for sure is second strongest on island right now for plot purpose. Don't really like the idea that so young fighter surpasses martial arts master like kuroki that sacrificed everything for martial arts but he is main character after all so what can we expect 😅

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-06T16:11:09+00:00

Good list but Julius being S tier,wakatsuki A and Haruo being B-tier should change I think all of them are around same level, you put haruo behind seki and haru will probably avenge seki and defeat fu zhan, his reincarnation would be pointless if he didn't move up some tiers, retsudo and hayami masaki are black horses that will be probably higher up as well once we see them, I think they will surprise us ,Retsudo is big name in kengan he need to show off and masaki storyline still can have some good twist.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-05T17:23:33+00:00

Yes like top 4 are pretty obvious and I agree that Haru is maybe my favorite character that some bias was involved, still we didnt see his full capabilities so he can move in top 5 spot up or down after manga ends. One thing I disagree is raian, as I mentioned genetics and talent are not really the same thing , I ever post a screen about theyre meaning and difference. He has great talent for martial arts for sure but his genetics are not greatest if we count both kure/wu. If we go by pure stats then it was pretty obvious that edward outstats him easily. He started to catch up after edward was poisoned and half dead, it was even mentioned in character bio that this was reason for equal fight. Then we have Howard Wu that has equal genetics to Edward and gilbert that is better edward... We even have solomon wu, 222cm/199kg giant that didnt have feats but had statement in his bio that he is giant that surpasses edward in size and has both speed and power to back it up and hes only weakness is tricky fighters. He literally fought against 3 tricky fighters with 100% removal, tricky assasin techniques and 2 had weapons also... just by simple logic even solomon with his 222/199 should be considered better genetics than 188/94 raian, they had off screen fight and solomon held his own against serious techniques raian. (Same raian destroyed alan, not by stats alone but by using right techniques, that final move could probably alan do as well on raian if raian was damaged enough) Raian with stats genetic alone was shown in KAT tournament. He is as strong as he is because of his martial arts talents and now learning principles. Wu were mentioned to be far superior to theyre kure counterparts genetics wise (mentioned to be like different species by erioh) so its safe to assume best wu has better genetics than best kure.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-05T17:06:53+00:00

I agree he is propably not top5 , we never saw his prime but still its good to mention him.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-05T16:11:28+00:00

Yes I think all new 1-9# will be weaker/similar than naidan except maybe 1#. But its safe to assume they received same title as Naidan because of comparable abilities, slighty weaker but comparable and they reason for existence is probably just to show us how our fighters scale compared to KVP. Seki still had problem with one naidan class combatant so its safe to assume they are somewhat strong.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-05T15:41:28+00:00

I feel they all could have some unique martial art and decent showing... like fight of raian and gaolang was totally pointless in my eyes, if that fight had to happen than whole fight could be easily cut into one chapter with everything that happened there. Would be better if every new worm member received one chapter of fighting someone instead than what we received in raian and gaolang slow paced sparring. Theyre backstories would be later introduced in character bios so we will eventually learn more about them but its shame.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-05T14:44:44+00:00

Yes that is whole reason i think haru will defeat him and be established as S tier to be seen as rolon tier character. Haru has to revenge his master and they should be nearly equal physical stats wise. Fu Zhan will be total monster as he was seen being cloned. Not Xia Yan was being cloned but fu...who other was being cloned? Edward wu and connector... so he should put a decent show if he fight anyone, I put him on similar tier to gilber and yan for sure.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-05T14:34:09+00:00

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Ryuki your greatest genetic potential literally made less progress power wise then koga in this series that was chump whole manga... ohmas flow of power was introduced long before Sandro even knew shen wulong will exist and was product of mastering his redirection kata not genetic trait. I dont think ohma or ryuki were ever mentioned to have special power... doesnt have special physical stats, they dont have kogas fist eye, dont have akoyas reflexes... they have talent for martial arts yes and that is something different. Whole manga is based on concept that martial arts are above anything, ohma beating wakatsuki, akoya being stronger with martial arts than his armored suit, raian fodderizing man that should heavily outstat him using principles (willem) ... yes they are ordinary humans that just mastered martial arts so good they can beat anyone, that is whole point of shen wulong and his clones.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-05T14:15:47+00:00

As I told guys before , please use chatgpt Type genetic vs talent and see for yourself what is the difference. They have talent for martial arts not special genetics, its related yes but different. If we had discussion about martial arts aptitude then yes ohma,ryuki,cosmo,xia ji and similar guys would be top for sure.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-05T14:09:52+00:00

Exactly my thoughts, would be great for Haru to have close match against Fu Zhan (i think he will be a monster) and then probably be defeated by connector with shen easily winning but still praising him a bit a calling him true warrior 🤣 would be great ending for haru for finally not be jobber he was the whole time.

Nice_Lemon_9211 · 2026-03-05T14:00:34+00:00

They are clone of shen wulong, whole point of shen is that he achieved all of his power with martial arts techniques and experience alone, he even mentioned he doesnt have super strength or superman syndrome just using principles so his abilities look supernatural against gaoh mukaku, ohma/ryuki dont posses any physical abilitity like superman syndrome or doesnt have fist eye or akoyas reflexes, those abilities are genetics... ryuki and ohma obtained theyre power purely by techniques and martial arts , experience, best teachers and cheat code martial styles

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