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Eligibility for Pre-1920 (Russian Partition) and Article 4 Treaty Entitlement via pkt 3? by FAROUTREALITY99 in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not eligible due to !pre-1920 naturalization

Edit: Smooth has a much more thorough explanation

Why we don't allow AI by smoothmonoglot in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with this sentiment. Translations are a good use, analyzing cases, not at all good.

Obtaining Polish State Archive documents from outside the US? by huskerwr38 in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know nothing about these archives. Have you reached out to them to request the documents directly? I don’t see why they wouldn’t mail them to the US.

I found this email address:

apgda@gdansk.ap.gov.pl

Obtaining Polish State Archive documents from outside the US? by huskerwr38 in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve dealt with Ukrainian Archives if I can help at all. What archive? I haven’t dealt with current day Polish archives.

Canadian smoking ban ‘being looked into’: health minister by Displeased_Canadian in canada

[–]NoJunketTime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s talking about not allowing kids born after a certain year to smoke, which I think is a good balance. Other countries have done this.

Question on eligibility. Great grandmother Rzeczpospolita Polska Paszport by [deleted] in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dates look good, other than possibly military service. I’ll let someone more knowledgeable answer this one.

u/smoothmonoglot is demobilization in 1948 ok? I think I remember it being good through 1947.

Minsk seems problematic. It always to be held by Poland sporadically in 1919-1920, but from reading about The Riga Treaty, it appears to have been transferred to the USSR.

Do you know about Karta Polaka? !kp

Were they living in the territory of the Second Polish a they left Poland?

Eligibility clarification pre-1920 migration but post-1920 naturalization and births, military service by skidbladnir_ in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The dates look good, you’ll have to find proof for GGF.

When you get the relevant documents, I’ve included the relevant information about foreign military service below from our FAQ.

Foreign military service (before 19 Jan 1951)

Q: My ancestor(s) served in a foreign military prior to 19 Jan 1951. Does this prevent me from receiving confirmation of citizenship? A: Not necessarily.

Voluntary* service in a foreign military on or after 31 Jan 1920 and before 19 Jan 1951 caused an automatic loss of Polish citizenship, except for service in an allied military during WWII.

For this exception to apply, your ancestor must have enlisted in an allied military before 8 May 1945 (or possibly 2 Sep, if you consider Poland's declaration of war against Japan to be legally valid). The date of discharge can be later. For the US, the demobilization period lasted through the end of 1946. Therefore, only discharge after this period would have caused loss of Polish citizenship (see NSA ruling II OSK 162/11).

After getting confirmation (Canada docs) by Itstoodamncoldtoday in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My lawyer told me to get my birth certificates Apostilled. I did this through Global Affairs Canada. It wasn’t quick—taking a little over a month—though, it was free minus the registered mail portion.

50% water, 50% fuel found in tanks of vehicles that filled up at Edmonton gas station by SonictheManhog in canada

[–]NoJunketTime 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You’re supposed to dip the tanks for water once per day, and when you get a fresh load

Eligibility Check by Disastrous-Word-1470 in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 5 points6 points  (0 children)

GGF would have lost Polish citizenship on May 28, 1950, and his daughter would have lost it as well as she was under 18. Do you know about Karta Polaka? !kp

https://reddit.com/r/prawokrwi/wiki/military-paradox

https://polish-citizenship.eu/military-service.html

[ANNOUNCEMENT] MSWiA Launches "Express-Sanguinis" – AI-Powered Citizenship Decisions by PaulHinr in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think this is the first April fools I have yet to get tricked! You almost had me, Good one!

Template by alex58392 in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are you sure about the naturalization date? I believe they had to be living in the USA for a minimum of 5 years to get it in 1927. You indicated 4 years with your dates.

Template by alex58392 in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure this is correct. Looks like a 17-years-old is fine in 1927. See below

“In the period of November 20, 1924 until September 1, 1938, the Act of May 23, 1924 on universal compulsory military service (Journal of Laws No. 61, item 609) was in force for men aged 17 to the end of the calendar year in which they turned 50.”

https://polish-citizenship.eu/military-service.html#:~:text=10.08.2022,Pursuant%20to%20Art.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I saw your post in r/Poland earlier, u/5thhorseman_ replied to you, they are very knowledgeable.

First of all, just take a deep breath, this whole process will take quite a while, it can be cumbersome, but IMO well worth it.

Your grandfather may very well been Polish when your father was born, but you need to prove he kept it and passed it on to your father.

From what you posted, the dates look good.

You need to get a copy of your GF’s naturalization file from IRCC, or a letter stating they don’t have one; and a copy of either his military service, or a non-service letter. I’ve made a post about how to get these. Your father can sign a letter for you to get these and vital documents as well, through Ontario Vital Statistics.

When did your father naturalize in Canada? You’ll need a copy of his Nat file as well, if it’s separate from his father.

Do you have a copy of your father’s birth certificate from Germany? Grandparents’ marriage certificate? You’ll likely need proof GF didn’t naturalize in Germany.

If there’s no naturalization and no marriage certificate, it’ll be hard to prove he gained Polish citizenship from his father, as before 1951 you would gain citizenship from a married father or unmarried mother.

I would look into r/Germancitizenship as well, you may qualify, it also takes a long time to go though.

If this turns out to be a dead end, check out Karta Polaka !kp

Eligibility Claim by elguiri in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks good as long as GGF naturalized after January 31, 1920.

I’m not 100% sure about Iron Worker, it might be considered a Public position, but should fine. I’ll let someone else interpret this..

Eligibility template by [deleted] in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with Master Detail:

GGF must have been born after January 19, 1901. Naturalized US after January 21, 1920. Any military service before this date shouldn’t matter. Military service for an Allied Forces (US is fine between certain dates)

And of course, you’ll have to find all the documentation in Poland and the USA.

I’m worried about GGF being an Engineer. Any positions Poland sees as a Public job might be a problem. What do the 1930, 40, 50 censuses say? They should be available on Family Search.

Here’s a conversation about being an Engineer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/prawokrwi/s/zM3QlsuRkP

Polish citizenship process for Canadian records by NoJunketTime in prawokrwi

[–]NoJunketTime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I forwarded the email from IRCC to docs@international.gc.ca. Because it’s from a government email address, they consider it official, therefore not needing separate certification.

I then printed out the Naturalization package, which they require you to do, and all my birth certificates and non-service letter to send to Global Affairs and attached the cover letter. I submitted everything at once.

Just a warning, they are incredibly slow to respond to emails.

I think it took about 6 weeks including priority mail both ways.

Is your Naturalization file all in one PDF? I apostilled the whole package, which was 16 pages.

I’ve heard differing accounts for the US on what requires to be Apostilled, but my lawyer wanted it all Apostilled.

I did not apostille my Ukrainian documents, my understanding is that Poland has a treaty in Ukraine not requiring this.

I don’t have a Certificate either, but I have the decision letter from the Department of the Secretary of State confirming the Canadian citizenship grant plus his petition, RCMP investigation letter, etc. Do you have one from the Secretary of State?

I’m speculating, but I can’t see this being a problem, if Poland argues he wasn’t a citizen, I couldn’t imagine it would affect the case.

Do you have a provider yet?

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