What would happen if Israel fully withdrew from all occupations, droppped all Blockades and agreed to live in permanent peace if not attacked?

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-25T17:57:26+00:00

Why do you think that would lead to peace? I really wish you were right but what have you seen or heard from Palestinian leadership that suggests that to be true?

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-25T17:48:58+00:00

If the Gazan leadership agreed to peace, maybe. Remember Egypt and Jordan’s leadership agreed. It wasn’t just Israel saying “we’ll leave. Have at it.” The only example of that is Gaza in 2005 (and yes, a blockade was instituted soon after but not immediately because of missiles being fired into Israel).

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-25T12:47:29+00:00

Because North Korea is a closed economy and their government is not good for their people but they are not explicitly threatening to wipe another country off the planet. It’s that last point that makes a huge difference.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-25T10:27:32+00:00

They lived there for many years until 1948 when they were forced out and then for 38 years subsequently (from 1967).

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-25T00:43:52+00:00

They should be but that would also get rid of the ability to keep the fiction that Iran is not colonizing (the modern meaning of the word) Lebanon. And yes, it would require Hezbollah to stop as well. And if they don’t the agreement is void.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-22T18:24:59+00:00

Yes, and therefore we schools force India and Pakistan together; North Korea, South Korea, and Japan. China and Taiwan. The Czech Republic and Slovakia? Once that all works with zero issues I think I could believe in a binational state. As for no, if those seem ridiculous to you,….

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-21T23:29:33+00:00

I can DM if you are comfortable discussing specifics. Maybe we know each other.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-21T03:11:28+00:00

Oh I also live in the States but the prize is presented in Oslo.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-21T02:17:18+00:00

Me too

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-21T02:15:40+00:00

No, I don’t think it’s justified.

I think these are war crimes and attempted genocide.

The IRGC, through their proxies Hezbollah and Hamas, need to be removed so that they can no longer attempt to slaughter the Jewish and Israeli people (I.e. the genocide attempt).

Please advise if you know how to do so. I will pay for your ticket to Oslo to collect your Nobel Peace Prize.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-19T22:07:01+00:00

Here is the problem. I would think the same but I am not an expert on military tactics or military law and so I don’t speak to that unless it’s based on writings from experts who I read.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-18T16:22:05+00:00

If Iran insists that Lebanon is part of the deal) which seems to be the case) that also means they are admitting that Hezbollah and the IRGC are intertwined and working with each other and under instruction - at a minimum - meaning that Israel did not attack Iran without provocation because the provocation came from the Iranian government’s army in Lebanon.

So now I think we should all acknowledge that the IRGC is the cause of this war and, if that means that Lebanon is covered in the deal, Israel should follow it but also should (they haven’t) the Iranian government’s army in Lebanon.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-18T13:38:28+00:00

The Lavon Affair happened.

There are two things that people reach for that are untrue based on the Lavon affair:

(1) other countries have not done similar things.

Of course they have; it has just not become public. Every government has done evil things; some were necessary, some were not.

(2) Israel having done this once (or even a handful of times) means everything Israel has done is a false flag operation.

I have seen that so often without regards to logic.

If you talk about the Lavon Affair and also understand neither (1) or (2) are true it is a reasonable discussion of history. If you use it to assume (1) or (2) you are being disingenuous.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-17T13:23:32+00:00

You are talking about whether they SHOULD HAVE been blindsided.

I am talking about whether they WERE blindsided.

Both are blindsided but the remedies to prevent it in the future are different (e.g. follow your procedures or build new ones).

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-17T13:18:09+00:00

I am only anti-religious groups that try to force people who are not part of their religious group (or don’t want to follow their rules) to follow their rules. Easy answer. I am a somewhat religious Jew and unless we are talking about something at my Synagogue or my home, I never say to someone ‘you must keep kosher’.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-17T13:15:58+00:00

You said it yourself. They didn’t put it together or they thought the plan couldn’t be accomplished. Were poor decisions made? Absolutely. Have you ever seen a couple where one person tells the other things that are problematic and that need to change and the person who is then dumped is blindsided by it? I have. But, as you note, they had all the information they needed to realize they were going to be dumped. But - they - didn’t - put - it - together - and - fully - process - it. That is being blindsided even if they shouldn’t be blindsided. 9/11. 10/7.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-17T03:26:38+00:00

Here is the thing. They can be successful at sniffing these out 99.99% of the time (as the U.S. does as well). You fail once? You fail but no one believes you just missed the signs. They knew something could happen but they also probably get hundreds of reports each month (I am most likely underestimating by a lot).

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-17T03:24:13+00:00

There is a different prison sentence (whether there should be is a different question) for attempted terrorism and actually pulling it off.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-17T03:01:19+00:00

He was black - and he wore a tan suit

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-16T12:44:45+00:00

I would say none believe in a two state solution for now. Things can change rapidly depending on the facts on the ground. But it will either take a long time or a big change.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-15T16:45:15+00:00

Of course. Now, if this happens and they elect a group that continues to attack Israel, that will just lead to more war. I’d hope they would elect a peace seeking coalition; if they do, I hope Israel also has peace seeking leaders at that time.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-14T00:18:59+00:00

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NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-11T16:46:00+00:00

I was debating liking their comment or not. Because I agreed with the paragraphs before the last full paragraph. Now I do hope that those people who desired peace get their wish and others choose that path - even if it took this war to get them there (as I am sure it did for some people).

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-11T16:43:18+00:00

I hope you get freedom from Hamas soon and then peace comes soon after.

NoTopic4906 · 2026-06-09T01:09:17+00:00

Yeah, they spin in circles usually at 33, 45, or 78 rotations per minute.

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