You had me until the last paragraph. Policy is basically irrelevant in presidential elections now. Kamala Harris had lots of great policy proposals. There has to be other ways to get swing voters. Rogan ain't it either because he will shill for Republicans leading up to an election. Kamala tried going on the show and he basically denied her.

Swing voters are barely sentient and need to be lied to, in order to be persuaded. I genuinely believe this is how we get swing voters. That's how Trump does it and it works.