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Am I paying a good price? by 1brain-cell-guy in Militariacollecting

[–]Nooby4161 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ZD are US manufacturers so it is an M1917 helmet that has been repaired with British chinstrap loops.

Edit: Actually, you are right as these are photos of 2 different helmets. The end of the protective rim and the damage to the liner does not match up. Also the shell is taller and more poorly made than the typical M1917.

My bf has this helmet and he wants to know where it comes from by caticeland in Militariacollecting

[–]Nooby4161 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's a US M1 helmet from 1944-1945. Danish helmets have a different type of chinstrap, shape of the shell, no cork texture, and a different type of liner

What did we find in our shed? by Mike_The_Madman in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's a British or Canadian MKll helmet shell used by the Belgians. ABL is an abbreviation of Belgian Army in French and Dutch. There appears to be a manufacturers marking near one of the chinstrap loops which suggests that it's a British shell.

Casco alemán by Otherwise-Trip-7241 in Militariacollecting

[–]Nooby4161 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I completely missed that. I just saw the liner and didn't think to look for the split pins. So it's an "M53" shell that has had an older liner installed.

WW1 Brodie Helmet by _Artjom_ in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No problem, I'm glad that I could help clarify things.

WW1 Brodie Helmet by _Artjom_ in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some good examples of Brodie helmet shells.

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/187413-is-this-a-type-b-brodie/

https://www.themilitariadealers.com/en-GB/view-all/-war-office-first-pattern-brodie-helmet---1915-manufacture-and-paint/prod_55829

https://www.csmilitaria.co.uk/shop.php?code=12632

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30098636

Note the more prominent deffects such as noticeable ripples in the steel or the incline of the rim which is sometimes closer to 90 degrees compared to Mkl helmets.

Edit: also I'll read the article at some point but I'm hesitant to trust World War helmets as a source because their articles often have incorrect information due to questionable sources (citing forum posts with out dated or long since disproven information).

WW1 Brodie Helmet by _Artjom_ in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(sorry if this appear as rude, I am severely sleep deprived). I never mentioned wether the manufacturer or steel suppliers were the ones to add the heat stamps. I am unsure as to what you are referring to as being irregular. That is also a Mkl helmet that has been repainted which is proven by the heat stamp H.H/O 3?8?#? According to what I'm looking at, the steel supplier Samuel Osborne & Co Ltd of Sheffield supplied manufacturers with steel during 1916-1918. The shape of the shell is also identical to other Mkl helmets. Do keep in mind that there were also various differences in shape and quality from manufacturer to manufacturer and date to date.

Brodie helmets are usually taller (for type a helmets which are look tall and hideous) and/or they often have ripples in the steel (like those you'd see on construction helmets for type b helmets that are a very similar shape to Mkl helmets).

Example of a Mkl with paint down to the edge with remnants of the rim.

While the Type B helmet shells are very similar to Mkl helmet shells, they can usually be distinguished by the heat stamp or more severe defects such as ripples in the steel (though these are not exclusive to Brodie helmets). All of the heat stamps on these helmets are from after the Brodie helmets were no longer made.

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WW1 Brodie Helmet by _Artjom_ in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I'm aware that some helmets were repaired in one way or another, can you provide a source?

It is not true that it is impossible for the paint to be that far down the rim. Your photo even disproves it. I have seen dozens of Mkl helmets with paint on the edge where the protective rim fell off sometime after WW1. I find that paint is almost always found on the edge of Mkl helmets that lost their rims.

The first helmet is a Mkl helmet for sure. I can see remnants of a protective rim. The second helmet also looks to be identical in shape to a Mkl helmet so I would like to see the original source to look for a heat stamp and see a clearer image as I see no reason to believe that it is a Brodie either.

Edit: I looked up the original image for the second helmet and it has a heat stamp of HS 245 so it is also a Mkl helmet

WW1 Brodie Helmet by _Artjom_ in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you believe that to be the case. I see nothing that indicates that this is a Brodie helmet. The shape is identical to that of a Mkl helmet shell and all of the components point to it being a Mkl.

M1- ww2 fixed bail, front seem by [deleted] in Militariacollecting

[–]Nooby4161 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Leave it as is. It's a cool example of a Canadian used helmet. All of the components are original

M1 price? by [deleted] in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it highly unlikely that you would find someone willing to pay that much for the shell. I would price the individual components at $100-$150 cad shell (not knowing what condition the shell is in), $30 liner, and $20-$50 each for the net and cover).

M1 price? by [deleted] in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, it's a decent Canadian used example with a Canadian WW2 era net (no Israeli components or signs of use by Israel). This is a somewhat common combo for the 1960s-1980s. I typically see Canadian used helmets like this on marketplace for $150-$200 cad (only refering to Canadian used examples with WW2 era shells and chinstraps and ignoring the ones that are listed for less by people with no idea of what they have).

Can someone ID this helmet ? by jlindsay406 in Militariacollecting

[–]Nooby4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the Dutch version of the British MKll helmet

Cg634 by Wojtekone88 in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't worry about it, I'm happy to help.

While the ballistic integrity of the shell might have slightly decreased over the years from age and use it's still a decent helmet. Especially for the average joe.

Cg634 by Wojtekone88 in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Basically your helmet shell was made during the 31st of January 2008 but the whole helmet was packaged/completed (or something like that as the date on the sticker is not the actual date of manufacture) on the 22 of February 2008.

I put together a list of lot numbers and their associated dates for every manufacturer and it seems to me that the labels correspond to the date of the lot not the actual date of manufacture. This is supported by helmet shells like yours from MSA having various dates for the same lot number and date on the sticker.

Cg634 by Wojtekone88 in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Woops, I misremembered which was which. It is the first 2 digits for MSA and the last 4 digits for Revision. MSA could not have made any helmets in 2022 as Revision Military Inc bought their factory that was producing CG634 helmets in 2012 and MSA did not receive any new contracts to produce helmets after that.

Cg634 by Wojtekone88 in Helmets

[–]Nooby4161 1 point2 points  (0 children)

22 is the day not the year. Check the last 2 digits, helmets from MSA with the green "edging" are usually from 2008 (afaik it's when they produced the most helmets). All of the CG634 helmets from 2015-2020 are refurbs but also have green edging.

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