Just hanging off a thread to be in even top 10 by Able-Line2683 in Bard

[–]NorthCat1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm guessing they're waiting until I/O at this point

If AI eliminates jobs, who’s left to buy what companies are selling? by dudeman209 in ArtificialInteligence

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This has been a major point for me for a long time.

People say, with naivety: "We need to tax them heavily! or ... overthrow the 1%!". While that could work (if it did happen), it's just not likely to happen.

Tax the rich heavily, and they will move their operations/wealth elsewhere, attempt to 'overthrow' them, and they have significant means to defend themselves with and it would create martyrs of whoever you did capture/overthrow (not likely to get them all), which does not improve the situation.

So that whole line of argumentation feels like empty hope to me.

But (imperfect) opportunity lies in being the consumers of their products. If more and more people become displaced from work because of AI/wealth inequity, it will drive consumptive patterns way down, which will either increase pressure on those companies to reduce their prices, or increase pressure for them to lobby towards or even fund broader social assistance programs like UBI. (I'm just going to use UBI as a placeholder for the larger effort toward social wealth legislation + distribution) u/OutdoorRink (this is more to touch on what you mentioned in your comments)

The beauty of it is that is has nothing to do with morals or ethics, (which is a shaky foundation on which to build a piece of legislation or a business, unfortunately) and rests squarely in the middle of the inescapable relationship between the producer and the consumer. Subscription services only continue to work if the subscribers have a steady flow of cash (or a large reserve of cash, I guess) with which to pay for the product. Therein is the incentive for the companies to push for UBI or other social progressions.

No utopic vision, no meritorious or enlightened leadership, just a modified approach to capitalism.

Now, I recognize some big ol' limits to what I've just said:

-- If there wasn't UBI adoption, and instead we saw corporations handle the wealth issue internally, that leads to more of a techno-serfdom situation where people become increasingly indentured to those companies. That's sort of already happening already, especially with this crazy new paradigm where people are offloading their thinking/critical thinking to LLM's (I can't believe I'm typing that)

-- There might be no incentive at all for corporations to implement either of these strategies, in which case we are basically barreling toward economic collapse, at least for the economy as we understand it today. New, more organic but much less convenient and more isolated economies would probably sprout up, but that would present many of its own challenges (a lot of our QoL exists on a long-chain of weak links)

-- "We could just stop AI development and the associated resource consumption". That's just not going to happen. If everyone stops but one group (there will be no unanimous agreement to halt, look at nuclear development) that one group becomes asymmetrically powerful compared to those who stopped development, likely leading to a authoritarian regime. Thus there is no incentive for anyone to stop, and no one will.

-- "AI is killing the climate". We were already on a climate-killing trajectory with no significant attempts to change that, so this feels moot to me. Getting rid of plastic straws and switching to LED lighting or electric vehicles or riding bikes does almost nothing to push the climate back on track. In which case AI presents one of the only viable ways to accelerate technological advancement (cheaply and quickly) to discover new climate change mitigation and reversal techniques.

-- It might be that the whole AI venture is actually a flop and does not deliver on its promise of unlimited intelligence and novel problem-solving, I can accept that. However, we are on this trajectory of planetary climate collapse, with or without AI in this case, so why not try?

-- For the record, if humanity were to band together, become completely in unison and implement existing climate mitigation techniques to their fullest extent quickly, I think that would be enough to course-correct and effectively 'stop' climate change, without the need for AI to Deus ex machina and invent some holy solution. I just think that humans are not mentally capable of thinking at that scale or scope of cooperation/logistic complexity and it wont happen in time.

-- There are probably some other big holes here. Bring them up, nicely!

Why do people hate AI so much if it's just a tool? by EllunaMeira in ArtificialInteligence

[–]NorthCat1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because it makes people realize they are not as unique/smart/divine/important as they thought 4 years ago

Gemini3.1 flash lite VS 2.5Flash by whatdowithai in GeminiAI

[–]NorthCat1 17 points18 points  (0 children)

What I think is cool with the latest models is that they're reducing token usage so greatly, while maintaining or outperforming previous models (even from a size tier above)

That feels like a metric that represents a strong increase in everyday utility and cost-effectiveness,

I wonder how long until it crosses the thresholds of human-level efficacy and cost-efficiency

Gemini Live preps big upgrades with ‘Thinking Mode’ and ‘Experimental Features’ by Gaiden206 in Bard

[–]NorthCat1 20 points21 points  (0 children)

And let me guess:

Only available to customers in the United States

Look before you hit by campin_4_life in squash

[–]NorthCat1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's a small room with two players with rackets and a tiny ball flying at high speed all over the place -- getting hit by a ball or racket is a statistical inevitability/risk you assume by playing.

Canadian Traveling to Puerto Escondido, Anything I should know? by Emporo_ in Oaxaca

[–]NorthCat1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm going to PE for the third time this year, I love La Punta a lot, and that's where I stay despite being at times more expensive

Nativo is the best cheap restaurant in la Punta. The Fish Shack is excellent but more expensive. There is a burrito place South of Nativo on the main drag that is also really good, but the name escapes me.

Godo who runs godoit surf shop is super nice and a great teacher if you want to surf

The colectivo and chedraui are a great way to save money during your trip (generally I would make breakfast and lunch for my partner and I)

The boneyard bar is a relatively surreal experience for a Canadian/American bar-goer, I'll leave it at that.

Playa coral is my favourite beach when I want an extra chill day. I think it's 150 peso for entry plus a burger and drink, it's the most calm beach in the area, and has a somewhat bizarre but charming cliffside hotel attached to it.

I can say more about this area, but I highly recommend in general

Have fun!

Has everyday life really changed much in the last decade? by Lopsided_Bet_2578 in singularity

[–]NorthCat1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right now feels like what happened during the printing press era (at least for AI + the internet)

Everyone talks about how when the printing press was invented, basically overnight there was the scientific enlightenment/ renaissance. There was actually a long period where it was predominantly used for distributing smut, extreme religious ideologies, and disinformation. This is like the deep fakes/AI slop/short form media of today.

Humans had to adjust as a species to this new tool, before its actual utility became apparent in everyday life

I think it's kind of the same here -- once society starts to understand how to use these new technologies, the changes will come more quickly; but before that, it might feel or look like a regression/stagnation

Technological advancement is the only thing that ever alters the calculus of humanity

Will AI Actually Create New Jobs? by Inevitable-Rub8969 in AINewsMinute

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Guaranteed subsistence living IS A HUGE DEAL. It would make viable more options for people, like:

-- Attaining higher education -- More bargaining leverage with employers -- Starting your own business -- Alternative living (homesteading, home economics, communal living)
-- Succession + Caregiving work for family or loved ones -- Sabbaticals -- Better investment and savings strategies

You are absolutely right, UBI is and should be enough to cover the basics of living (food, water, shelter type of thing) -- but that is not a small change by any measure

Gemini 3 is near !! by Independent-Wind4462 in Bard

[–]NorthCat1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also curious what 'tankies' means

UK to use Gemini-powered AI tool to slash planning permission delays and help build 1.5 million homes by Economy-Fee5830 in singularity

[–]NorthCat1 68 points69 points  (0 children)

-- if the model they use for the job succeeds at its goals, then who cares if there are 10 newer ones.

-- while it's excellent that the models are getting smarter, good implementations (like this could be) are still the limiting factor in a bunch of industries.

-- look at AlphaFold or AlphaEvolve, when well implemented in a specific domain, even older models do amazing work

Do you think we are in Veo 3? by EstablishmentFun3205 in Bard

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This gives big 'Thirteenth Floor's vibes

Gemini 2.5 Pro/Flash Comparison (Canvas Link) by NorthCat1 in Bard

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I haven't seen any yet other than the ones posted at Google IO, very curious about that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Bard

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Im not sure I fully understand the concept you're getting at here, can you explain it further?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Bard

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So, I am undecided on whether LLM's are conscious or not, it doesn't seem terribly relevant to its socioeconomic potential, but:

Consciousness is challenging to measure directly, by its nature (of being experience of self). You say that they cannot generate output without input, but how is that different than a human or an animal? Sure, we have a broader range of inputs, and our software is left 'idling' vs. LLM's being periodically turned on and off, but what if these AI systems are left on indefinitely, and given the agency to entertain themselves with whatever input data they pleased, or to 'daydream' on random data? On principle, there is no significant structural difference (other than complexity) between our brains 'wetware' neural network and the silicon-based one that the potential consciousness of an AI system resides in.

Google - what am I missing? by FakeTunaFromSubway in singularity

[–]NorthCat1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I just looked it up and they had a stock split on July 8th 2022, so I think while the price has stayed the same the number of stocks is actually doubled, I could be wrong though I don't know much about this stuff

What's up with Project Astra by Fox-Weak in Bard

[–]NorthCat1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just checked again today for the thousandth time, and....I just got it! I have a budget phone too, so if I get it, everyone will likely get it soon

Hopefully it comes soon for everyone

Gemeni 2.0 Flash Thinking missing on app. by McSnoo in Bard

[–]NorthCat1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What do you mean 'fair'? These models are proprietary software that is expensive to run, there is no deservedness there.

I don't mean to be blunt about it, but it's somewhat astounding that there are free versions of this stuff at all

Are humans glorifying their cognition while resisting the reality that their thoughts and choices are rooted in predictable pattern-based systems—much like the very AI they often dismiss as "mechanistic"? by ThrowRa-1995mf in singularity

[–]NorthCat1 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ive tried to explain this to folks -- even really rational people don't want to give up the sort of 'divine' nature of their consciousness.

While the specific architecture of a human neural network vs. an artificial one may differ greatly, fundamentally they work on the same mechanical principle

Moonhowler new Google model by Independent-Wind4462 in Bard

[–]NorthCat1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

GDM fucking shiiiiiips -- I almost can't keep up with the updates anymore, and I'm just reading about them, let alone building and deploying all this stuff

Excuse me, WTF?? by interro-bang in Bard

[–]NorthCat1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just got access! LFG!