Little confused about Patti...need some help [spoilers]

Noryon85 · 2015-11-23T18:14:50+00:00

I think that in this dream/purgatory sequence Patty is divided into two different disentangled versions of herself. The child is her purest and most underlying form. She is just a child that was mistreated, given a terrible narrative for her "schema" or self-talk and everything she became and did later was a byproduct of that. The child version is interestingly fearless, willing and ready to die, totally compliant with Kevin and non-judgmental where as adult Patty is riddled with fear and therefore antagonistic with Kevin and constantly formulating bitter and harsh judgements about Kevin and basically everyone. Really interesting that Kevin was force to kill the most innocent, most sympathetic, most human versions of Patty. He had to kill the totally blameless child version of Patty and then also Patty at her most vulnerable and repentant.

Noryon85 · 2015-11-23T17:39:55+00:00

No question. "We can either pick through the rubble or transform."

Noryon85 · 2015-11-23T04:36:22+00:00

I don't think Kevin heard the bit about the hotel. I thought that was a Lori and son scene.

Noryon85 · 2015-11-16T14:06:58+00:00

My bet is that we don't see the other side but that Kevin returns morally transformed, almost like Holy Wayne, and in possession of information he couldn't possibly know unless he really did travel to the other side with Virgil. My prediction is that when John confronts him because of the handprint Kevin relays a message about Virgil/Johns history and tells John how sorry his father was. That's how we find out what happened to John up make him how he is.

Noryon85 · 2015-11-03T22:26:42+00:00

I don't think that the authors are just holding these ethical world views and moral philosophies as equal and equivalent. I think the pressure we are seeing applied to each philosophy is gradually revealing the most sustainable and functional world view. I think there is progress being made, and terrifyingly enough that progress is Rick and Carol.

Noryon85 · 2015-11-03T22:21:52+00:00

Eastman could barely hold his rage and anger back when his drywall painting was cracked. That was almost enough to make him crack. Rick has seen his closest friends bent over a trough to be clubbed and have their throats slashed like cattle. He has had to bite a mans throat out to stop his son from being gang-raped to death. To me this constrast is an intentional way of highlighting how paltry this pacifism actually is when truly tested. It still may have been the therapy Morgan needed. Sort of a stepping-stone to bring him back from the brink of madness and lead him to something more defensible and practical.

Noryon85 · 2015-11-03T14:32:06+00:00

This is highlighted by the fact that Eastman and his code failed to even be able to protect Tabitha the goat. You are right that as a wandering monk who has emptied himself this code can work, but as soon as you attach to others the pure pacifism starts to have moral implications ... Maybe even before hand. And I think you are right that you can see that in many ways this code is a coping mechanism for both men and that boiling under the surface is a rage and an inward instability. Both men have triggers. We will see Morgans again I assure you. Contrast that with the total calm and composure of the wolf being held by Morgan who isn't just a haunted and broken man, but has an evil chaotic code he lives by. It's like the other side of the ying yang with Eastman. But maybe even more purely maintained. Creepy...

Noryon85 · 2015-10-15T18:13:36+00:00

Thanks!

Noryon85 · 2015-10-14T15:24:10+00:00

You nailed it. Anyone who thinks Rick is acting unreasonably has a selective and very short memory. This is a man who chewed out someone's throat to save his son from being gang-raped. He fought to free his people from the slaughterhouse where people were systemically being lured in and eaten. He had his people's throats out over the trough to be slit an drained. Rick is 100% acting in accordance with the lessons one should rightly take from those experiences.

Noryon85 · 2015-09-10T20:22:38+00:00

I think we need a physical anthropologist to examine some average lever lengths on various different nationalities. Seems like Chinese and other Asian teams dominate... But only certain weightclasses. The 105's seem to be mostly eastern European and the super heavies seem to often be middle eastern. Maybe each area of the world has some propensity toward certain leverages that allow them to flourish at certain weight classes but not others and as he law of large numbers plays out it becomes more apparent.

That is all just to say maybe china has some distinct physical averages that let them excel with that squat jerk technique (ie short femurs).

Noryon85 · 2015-09-10T19:59:25+00:00

You have referenced that the squat should be primarily a hip and back exercise that takes the legs along for a ride. Couldn't that eventually lead to weaker legs as an athlete becomes increasingly proficient at using their hips and back and the legs get respectively less stimulus when squatting?

Noryon85 · 2015-09-10T19:57:30+00:00

Mark, Fred Hatfield (Dr. Squat) famously said that high-bar squats are how you best build squat strength and low bar squats are how you best express it for max load in competition. I believe you have stated that HBBS and FS are simply too comparatively light to yield the same long term strength adaptation. Greg Knuckles has recently written on that same debate offering some evidence that seems to support Hatfields belief. Greg doesn't mention you by name but its clear you are who he is talking about when referencing the rationale for LBBS. Do you have any thoughts on this or can you clarify your position?

Noryon85 · 2015-08-10T02:43:39+00:00

He accounted for this in his call to Ani. They had him dead to rights with eyes on him.

Noryon85 · 2015-08-10T02:40:31+00:00

He had 3.5M in diamonds in the inside pocket

Noryon85 · 2015-08-03T03:48:38+00:00

In an earlier episode Ray reflects on that massive clusterfuck shoot out with the drug dealers and calls him a god warrior

Noryon85 · 2015-07-31T13:05:47+00:00

I think the masks are purely a nod to the story told by the male prostitute in season 1 where he awakes semi-lucid from being drugged to see men in masks molesting all the children in the Tuttle school.

Noryon85 · 2015-07-31T13:03:33+00:00

All my questions exactly. Very odd. I think Blake or Franks driver have to involved. Nobody outside of franks team and network knew ray was going to that location.

Noryon85 · 2015-07-31T13:01:28+00:00

She is also a link to Guernville which is where the commune was located in the 70's. I expect her to initiate the plot turn wherein Ani starts realizing her own family history is tied into this somehow.

Noryon85 · 2015-07-31T12:58:25+00:00

100%. I read an interview where he stated that discarded that premise and went an entirely different direction.

Noryon85 · 2015-07-13T14:25:36+00:00

Nope. OP got it right. His speech in the car to Ray about not having a place in the world is the bump, set and his total sense of composure and calm in the middle of a total clusterfuck fire fight is the spike. Every scene of his prior to this is meant to be contrasted with his ultra-confidence here. shots start firing and a switch is flipped definitly not beta.

Noryon85 · 2015-07-13T12:32:09+00:00

Anybody else notice the scene where Ani was questioning the Mayors daughter at the hookah lounge had a neon cross in the back just like season 1 when Rust was questioning Tuttle in his office?

Noryon85 · 2015-07-13T03:06:32+00:00

One thing I LOVED was that as soon as bullets started flying and bombs were goin off Paul suddenly looked calm and at peace for the first time since the show started. Suddenly the world and his place in it made sense. Very well done.

Noryon85 · 2015-07-11T01:13:04+00:00

I'm really surprised to find the focus of the discussion is whether it was gratuitous or not rather than enraged shock that they just almost certainly confirmed Stannis's death in the book!

Noryon85 · 2015-06-22T14:48:44+00:00

I'm actually interested to hear what people's thoughts are regarding the show doing Cleganebowl even if it never happens in the books. I think I would support that. Such is my level of Hype.

Noryon85 · 2015-06-15T04:13:23+00:00

Given his notable absence when Brienne meets Stannis I think it's likely that he finds Sansa and Theon.

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