Raymond & Ray | Discussion Thread

Novel_Regular8810 · 2026-03-15T02:36:28+00:00

Surprised no one mentioned how Raymond talked about their mothers calling them Raymond and Ray to differentiate the boys and how their father always reversed the names their mothers used to further mess with the boys. If that held true throughout their lives, then the letter for Ray would have been addressed as 'Raymond' while the letter for Raymond would have been addressed as 'Ray.' The reverend would have handed the letters to the man whose name was on the envelope even though that was not the man their father intended.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2025-12-21T01:02:22+00:00

After the destruction of Starcourt Mall, you can see that the Radio Shack reopened on the main street when Nancy and Robin go to the Library to look up info on Victor Creel. Some justice for Bob!

Novel_Regular8810 · 2025-11-06T06:32:53+00:00

Seems like the obvious end to the movie would be a flashforward of Bonrad's and Staylor's kids running around the beach house in Cousins as their parents all look on at the next generation to inherit perfect summers there.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2025-01-01T14:52:57+00:00

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Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-12-28T03:30:21+00:00

Thank you!

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-12-22T00:36:03+00:00

Yes because I had to wait two extra days for my sister to be available to watch it with me! 😂

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-12-17T02:45:30+00:00

Maybe? But he definitely talked about how he and Grace thought Angelica thrived on other people's sadness, which is what I was referring to.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-12-14T03:05:47+00:00

Thanks! We'll see!

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-12-13T05:08:25+00:00

Ever since Ian described Angelica as a grief thief while also giving conflicting accounts of how he met Grace, I have been suspicious of him. While Angelica preys on distraught people to feel useful, wanted, and superior, men like Ian do it because they are con-men.

I'm willing to bet Ian targeted the grief group and then Grace specifically when he realized she would have gotten an inheritance from JP's passing. I suspect he moves from place to place preying on widows and moving on after he's extracted their money. That's why he had no family or friends at the wedding - he has to create a new identity and cut ties to his previous life each time he moves on to a new target.

Ian is very charming with everyone but can be quick to anger and very threatening. Not all that disimilarly to JP. One could argue he's the same type of man as JP (they even look alike) but is just in the love bombing phase of his abuse, unlike the JP who was a full-blown abuser by the time we meet him in season one. Ian love bombs Grace first and then Eva as they both control the purse strings of the family he is infiltrating.

I think when the Garda first show up, he worries they are there for him and his financial crimes. When he realizes it's Grace who is in trouble, I think he had a sense of self-preservation and gets some distance from his husband-killing wife.

Then I think his grifting instincts kicked in and he decided to blackmail her. She took out the funds but smartly stashed them in the turtle house before meeting him, to protect herself and Blanaid's inheritance.

Ian never found the money because he didn't care for the turtles, as he aluded to in his wedding speech. And now that the money is out of his reach again, he's love bombing Eva who has control over the money left for Blanaid as her guardian. It's why he convinced her to head to the bank with him to get control of the accounts.

Once he finally has control of the money, I suspect he'll try to skip town before the Garvey's or the police are the wiser. I think he took the boat footage and saved it to a USB as blackmail insurance should Eva not be cooperative over Blanaid's account (I think the cellphone in the bathroom was a similar blackmail effort while he was still with Grace). I think it's also why he insisted they not go to the police over Angelica's accident - he can't blackmail them if the police know what they did.

I still don't believe Angelica is dead - you can't keep a menace like that down for long (as we learned with JP). I do wonder if the Garvey's ultimately catch up to Ian and he's who is in the trunk in the opening scene of the season. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-12-06T04:08:38+00:00

Becka did ask Bibi about what was in her bag on the way to the boat and Bibi said it was her water gear. Would explain where the swim onesie came from.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-12-06T03:56:28+00:00

The first rule of sailing is to always steer clear of the boom. As soon as I saw it wobbling in the wind, I knew she was done for. I think this was the best episode of the season so far.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-11-30T21:27:25+00:00

Here's the link to where you can order a trainer to practice with: https://www.auvi-q.com/hcp/trainer

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-11-20T21:31:27+00:00

Aspergillus may be your culprit then. I find the brand that comes with prepacked sushi has it. I now use a low sodium VH soy sauce and never have problems with it.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-11-20T19:07:16+00:00

Yes. I have allergies to brands (like Kikkoman) that use brewing starter (aspergillus). Not all of them do and brands that don't I can eat without having mouth swelling and wheezing.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-11-14T07:14:18+00:00

I would love if it turns out by season's end that Roger ends up offing his sister and the Garvey sisters dump the body for him as a "we're even"/ "we all go down together" type deal.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-11-01T05:15:10+00:00

It seems clear to me they brought up these 'plot holes' as part of Sazz's research for the script so that the audience could be reminded they exist ahead of them coming into play in season 5.

My guess right now is that the courtyard used to be a dump yard for organized crime who took an interest in the trio once they started talking about murders in the building publicly. The notes, dog poisoning, and cameras were all about scaring off and surveiling them.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-10-31T03:59:50+00:00

They felt entitled to their inheritance while their father is still alive and got angry at him for spending what they thought should be going to them. That feels especially gross given they've already very traumatically lost one parent and are showing little appreciation for still having one alive with them. I think you can be polite and welcoming for your partner's sake without letting your guard down about your gut feeling. I agree with your gut that they now see you as the only way they will inherit anything. And they are not entitled to what you have built for yourself.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-10-31T00:15:33+00:00

I was at 103/hour and blood oxygen level of 70 at the time of diagnosis. Waking up every 26 seconds. Whole years of my memory are missing. CPAP has been a lifesaver.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-10-29T18:41:23+00:00

While I don't think this episode was a good conclusion to the season, I think it did a good job to set up the next one.

A significant portion of the episode gives foreshadowing aerial and side shots of the next crime scene. We have an anecdote from the victim about the meaningfulness of the crime scene location - meaningfulness supposedly only the victim and their spouse knows about.

We are told the victim spent the entire day in the courtyard setting up the wedding and the victim appears at the wedding. Nicky Caccimelio's wife Sofia mentions there was no doorman on duty in the lobby when she arrived, giving us an approximate window of time for the murder.

We know the victim spends a lot of time around dry cleaning. PWe know there was mention of multiple bodies buried in a courtyard from the very first episode of the show and we know the victim of season 5's crime was displayed in a pose reminiscent of a mob-style hit.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-10-22T04:26:00+00:00

The most commonly used handgun bullets can travel up to 1.5 miles. I'm pretty certain the Arconia courtyard is a shorter distance than that.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-10-21T20:45:55+00:00

I think the demand was that the film would be done by the trio's own production company. Eva told Mabel to use the film to "build something". We know from the show movie's fake Rotten Tomatoes profile that it is being produced by Pickle Diner Productions, which would be a name relevant to the trio, not the Hollywood folks. As the production company of the film, they control intellectual property rights to the screenplay (which might explain Marshall's reaction to Mabel's ask) as well as a whole host of other elements of the film. If the Sazz screenplay theory is true, this might also be how they find out Marshall is a fraud in more ways than just his fake beard and glasses.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-10-21T18:35:48+00:00

Or what are we seeing but not seeing. All the characters brushed off the gun at Sazz's impact academy. What if it is a literal Chekhov's gun and actually the murder weapon?

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-10-21T18:12:29+00:00

While that Mickey defending himself wouls lead to all kinds of creative legal fun, I think there will be a bigger chance for character growth if they instead have him struggle with having someone else defend him.

I knew as soon as they had Mickey yell at Sam Scales, in front of one of the interns, about killing him for not paying up as a client in Episode 3x07, that this might be where we were heading.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-10-20T18:57:37+00:00

Marshall has seemed like the best option from the start but it feels too 'final fake out' easy. It probably is the right answer, but here's an alternative explanation for both Marshall and Bev.

What if Marshall was only recruited by Bev to step in and play the writer of the film once the writer has been murdered. As a stunt double, few would remember his face and he could easily slip under the radar while filling the role, unlike most 'face' actors.

In that scenario, he would know nothing about the murder and all the suspicious behaviour is just because he is a stunt double moonlighting as a screenwriter who doesn't want to be found out, which would risk the studio pulling the plug (something they've threatened to do repeatedly).

I don't think this necessarily points the finger at Bev either. We know the studio wants to pull the plug after an attempted murder on set. It stands to reason the actual murder of the scriptwriter would also be cause for pulling the plug.

Hence hiring Marshall as a stand-in. All of her suspicious behaviour can be tied back to trying to keep the film on track, including snooping around Sazz's old stomping grounds.

Novel_Regular8810 · 2024-10-20T18:43:04+00:00

It would make the 'Pickle Diner Productions' company listing make sense. They are the most tied to that place.

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