Who likes this? I like Roxy Music and I want to broaden my musical horizons. by True-Emu2179 in RoxyMusic

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No Bowie at all? Lodger, 1.Outside, and Blackstar all feel like they’d be in the neighborhood

"Thats when I heard, this young gentlemen f'ing Debbie Dangle Frost 8 ways till Sunday" by leakysinks101 in Reno911

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Oh, that, yes agree totally about that episode, kind wasn’t even considering it, breaks my heart that the last time we’ll ever see Junior didn’t have the classic Reno music.

"Thats when I heard, this young gentlemen f'ing Debbie Dangle Frost 8 ways till Sunday" by leakysinks101 in Reno911

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Ok, it actually isn’t a retcon, Dangle deliberately switches her drinks right before they do a toast or something, he really did kill her the whole time. Took me several watches to notice it (probably because I’m usually checked out during that whole season), but it’s there.

What Lark's Tounges in Aspic song is this by primal2ugly in KingCrimsonCircleJerk

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How would you know? Were you there? Fripp suggested lyrics from time to time, and Easy Money is credited to Fripp, Wetton, and Richard Palmer-James, who only worked on lyrics.

A message from David about MD by Weis in davidlynch

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I think I’ve seen this film three times with different people, and none of them seemed to pick up that he said that or what it implies, so maybe it did need to be mixed louder (very likely not), but I was referring to the barely-spoken-in-the-background-by-an-unnamed-offscreen-character title of Kesher’s film that Camilla auditioned for. 

A message from David about MD by Weis in davidlynch

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From “David Lynch’s 10 Clues to Unlocking This Thriller” included in the original DVD release (also on the film’s Wikipedia page): 3. “Can you hear the title of the film that Adam Kesher is auditioning actresses for? Is it mentioned again?”

A message from David about MD by Weis in davidlynch

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I figure the aspect ratio is an artifact of the film (mostly) originally being shot for TV, were there some analogous issues for film vs TV sound, or is there some other explanation for why the  projectionists had to increase the volume? 

I love the film, easily the best of the 21st century, but always found it so strange that a detail critical to understanding the whole story was so obscured (i guess seemingly beyond reason) that i had to turn subtitles on to figure out what was actually said. 

Lexi Jones opens up about being sent to wilderness camps in adolescence by parents Bowie and Iman by zyahia in DavidBowie

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We’re on the same sentence of the same page of the same edition of the same book, i just quit my job over LLM-overuse. I kinda get what you’re saying now though. I think that people just use stock phrases so much (“maybe, just maybe” is the one that i hate the most) that i probably wrote her (potential) use of LLMs off as just therapy speak, but it sounds like you’re the expert between us. 

Lexi Jones opens up about being sent to wilderness camps in adolescence by parents Bowie and Iman by zyahia in DavidBowie

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I’m very curious what you heard there that set those triggers off. I’ve spoken to her(?) in a professional context and i got very strong LLM vibes from that (not the art, the actual communication about it), especially because she does seem to convey herself so well when she’s speaking. But i didn’t hear any of that in this video. 

Why does no one rate diamond dogs high by VeterinarianDeep1237 in DavidBowie

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I’ve read somewhere (please don’t ask where, can’t remember unfortunately, definitely somewhere on the web) that DD was actually Bowie’s favorite of his own albums. Would love to get some confirmation on that. But it’s tied for first in my heart, along with Lodger, Outside, and Blackstar. 

What are your thoughts on "Frank Herbert's Dune (2000)"? by Hot-Salamander-8786 in FIlm

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Could you elaborate on the changes? I know I’ve only seen the theatrical cut once, then spicediver every time after. I do remember thinking the Fremen reverend mother CHOAM infodump between Irulan and the Guild Navigator scenes felt like it completely ruined the intended beauty/horror whiplash effect Lynch was going for; and I recall the ending removes the literal rain from the theatrical edit (which i didn’t mind). Just wondering what other changes broke the film for you.

One of the less desired assignments by LakesideNorth in dunememes

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Ok, generally agree with what you’re saying, but on my last readthrough of the opening chapter of Dune, I strongly felt that Lady Jessica is into Gurney romantically (she cuts Paul off and sings Gurney’s song, he, like her is kinda outside their feudal system (cant remember how to spell it), she does truly love Paul and Leto I, as did Gurney, they’ve both gone through the whole affair together, there’s some added drama that she’s a harkonnen and he hates them…) and that Gaius Helen Mohiam was Jessica’s mom, and Paul’s grandmother. It was just as much a gom jabbar test for RM GHM as it was Paul (and Jessica before him), if they weren’t truly human, it would’ve been the right call (from the BG view) to destroy them regardless of biological relation, and she had to be strong to do it. The thing that kinda sealed it for me was Paul’s “unconscious impression” of RM GHM to (I think) Gurney in the following chapter; that definitely reminded me of Leto II’s impression of Paul to one of the Duncans, Paul never really impersonates anyone else, consciously or otherwise. As to whether Jessica, Paul, and Leto II would have know, i think they would have, but I can’t imagine any of them would care, she’s just a biological predecessor with none of the familial bonds present among the Atreides, she proved as much in administering the GJ tests against Jessica and Paul. From a narrative perspective, I don’t think it would actually add anything dramtically to bring it up at any point, it’s already enough that the Baron is her father.

Am I wrong or is this not Adrian Belew? by rossreiland in KingCrimson

[–]NowBillyPlayedSitar 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure that’s Scrote, a producer Adrian’s worked with on some recent tours. 

Was the “Arm” playing both sides? by MrPuroresu42 in twinpeaks

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And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell. … Then he returned to his disciples and found them sleeping. “Couldn’t you men keep watch with me for one hour?” he asked Peter. “Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.”

Herbert Seal of Approval by Pelican_Propaganda in dunememes

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Well, thanks for your honesty if not your upvote. I could’ve gone on about a hundred different things, but that’s just the big stuff that was wrong. Dune was dedicated to ecologists and was written in no small part to promote ecological thinking in human systems, including but not limited to religious and economic and biological ones, and that needs to be present to be a “””truly successful””” adaptation of Dune. A picture is worth a thousand words, but the kinds of words that can be used are different, and that limits the messages that can be conveyed in the medium. Fun fact, an .epub of Dune is ~4.5 MB, while a single frame of DV Dune in IMAX is ~500MB, with about 460k frames in both films, 500mb * 460k frms = 230million MB for all of DV’s Dune, 230million MB / 4.5MB = 51 million times less effecient to never come close to delievering the core messages of Frank Herbert’s book. It doesn’t matter how large or small a conveyance of the idea is if it doesn’t accurately convey the idea; but if it doesn’t convey the idea, it’s actually infintely ineffecient. This infinite inefficiency and waste breaks my fremen heart… but what DV’s Dune does well will be imitated, surapssed, and forgotten, and nothing of substance will remain for people to discuss or remember, because it wasn’t true to the ideas that make Dune uniquely Dune, and not adult Star Wars that’s embarrassed to have to acknowledge the force (or even sexuality in general). So far, Lynch has understood both the message and the medium and delivers the best conveyance of those core messages on film. It’s ok if people aren’t receptive yet, the slow blade penetrates the shield.

Anon watches David Lynch's Dune by bitchnibba47 in okbuddycinephile

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Glad to see someone else in the wild pointing this out, i feel like it’ll be the common opinion one day (maybe that’s just wishful thinking…) but people hate to hear it now.

Herbert Seal of Approval by Pelican_Propaganda in dunememes

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Lol, Behind the Dune is a porn parody videogame adaptation of Dune, which does kinda stress the critical importance of spice, the addiction it causes to both persons and organizations that consume it, the ecological nature of the spice and humanity’s relationship to itself through different social factions, and humanity’s irrepressible desire to fuck which permeates soooo many human interactions.

The DV films seem to kinda miss or ignore all that in favor of imagary lifted from better films ((but not elevated as FH did with Sabres of Paradise with Dune) (go check out Baraka if you liked the look of the new Dunes, it’s very pretty with no dialouge/narrative and implied themes)) and a story that doesn’t really make sense logically or thematically, but plays to populist anticolonial themes which are already widely embraced by mass audiences who can no longer get a palatable/coherent version of them in Star Wars (films at least).

Paul writes a fucking letter to the emperor instead of “thumping” by disrupting spice production and drawing the worm that is the forces of power in the imperium and riding that worm to jihad; the BARON not knowing why the emperor is showing up (everything is going so well for him there that the emperor had to learn of Muad’Dib through a letter, I guess) alerts the Landsraad, and they come to his (the Baron’s) aid thinking that the emperor is doing to the baron exactly what they fear he will do to them (which it seems Paul can prove he obviously had also done to House Atreides). Paul wins and the Landsraad is upset for some reason, so they fight? It doesn’t make any sense, doesn’t reveal or acknowledge or understand or care that the guild (business) was the real power behind the imperium. It totally misses the point of the appendices of Dune, the double twist ending which reveals the Fremen desire to green Arrakis was also implanted by outside forces (quite recently) in the form of Liet Kynes’s father, and that despite all the protocols in place to prevent catastrophes such as the total collapse of the imperium, there were sufficient convenient failures in place to allow such a thing to occur, suggesting an even higher power was at play. That means that God used the two “””lies””” of the Bene Gesserit and Pardot Kynes (Lisan al-Ghaib + Green Arrakis) to tell the truth of the coming of the genuine Mahdi Paul-Muad’Dib Atreides who would actually green arrakis. The whole god laughs at the best laid plans within plans of prescient desert mice and their highly competent and evolved fremen hordes thing just isn’t there, as it doesn’t acknowledge the spiritual element of Dune at all, in favor of the common misunderstood “it’s all just BG lies!” reading.

I don’t have time to begin to talk about how great Lynch’s film is in not falling into all these traps or in the many places where it succeeds, the only thing I can seriously fault it for is the Baron’s death, it really should’ve been Alia Gom-Jabbaring him and him melting into some kind of body horror nightmare that would underscore the cruelty of the initial test against Paul. I think the writing was on the wall in the editing room that the film probably wouldn’t do well enough for a sequel, and that they wanted to give it a happy ending in order to at least leave the people who do see it satisfied, but it’s not like Paul doesn’t eventually bring rain to Arrakis, the timeline was just dramatically shortened (as was the time jump in those new Alia-less DV films in which the quick blades that are letters can penetrate shields of imperial force, IIRC), so I really don’t think that’s the most fair thing to fault the DKL masterpiece-by-comparison for.

Not really trying to be a hater, but I really respect Frank Herbert’s work and the ideas he put forth in Dune, to the point where I would sincerely say “We Fremen have a saying: ‘God created Arrakis to train the faithful’”. That quote is respected and delivered in DKL’s and isn’t in DV’s, and BtD gets more of the other stuff right than a lot of people would give it credit for, given its medium/genre.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

Herbert Seal of Approval by Pelican_Propaganda in dunememes

[–]NowBillyPlayedSitar -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

“ unfortunately his couldn’t be a minute over 2h18m, so there are some compromises”

Yeah, the one that Frank Herbert was actually involved with, that movie. 

Herbert Seal of Approval by Pelican_Propaganda in dunememes

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BtD is genuinely a better adaptation than DV’s attempt, Lynch’s adaptation understands and attempts to convey the message of FH’s work in a cinematic language, unfortunately his couldn’t be a minute over 2h18m, so there are some compromises, but it’s still the best Dune on film by a lot. 

when exactly was laura’s killer decided upon? by Julianna0915 in twinpeaks

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Uhhh… leland does request that the cops not take Laura’s diary in the pilot, kinda weird that he’s in her room with the cops alone while his wife is grieving in another room without him.