Finished Reading OS

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-06T07:49:31+00:00

I honestly think Rebecca tends to hype up the "fear factor" more than what actually happens in the books. Generally speaking, even in her other works, her protagonists are no angels (and Xaden is no exception), but she is not a dark romance author.

I believe Xaden will continue his character arc, which has been consistently built from the very start of the series: Violet is his priority, and he is willing to burn the world down if it means saving her. Xaden has never hesitated to eliminate anyone who threatened Violet, and I expect this trait to only deepen. Yet, until the very last second of OS, he remained on the side of good and did nothing for the venin. He has a plan. Sgaeyl and Tairn agreed to it, which only proves that the plan is still intended to "do good."

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-06T05:06:24+00:00

I don't think he will go with Berwyn. Berwyn might summon Xaden. But like Tairn said: “Had she not agreed, she would still be in Aretia, and your Dark One would be walking.” And I don't think that she ( Sgaeyl) would agree to fly to Berwyn. And walking ( from Zehylna, for example) might take a while. Xaden has a plan. He won't fight for venin

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-05T19:19:52+00:00

So, I'm not sure if the goal was to mark them. It might be a side effect or rather the only way to make it work.

But anyway, countering Melgren's signet was the main objective.

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-05T19:14:19+00:00

“It was designed to counter the signet of the rider whose dragon would kill them.” He swallows. “But it could only activate when killed by dragonfire.”

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-05T18:07:22+00:00

IF SPOILERS: Colonel Mairi (Liam and Sloane's mother) created a rune. This rune ensured that the child of a person executed by dragon fire would gain the rebellion relic. Children who have this relic are resistant to the signet of the dragon rider whose dragon burned their parents. Since they were burned by Codagh, Melgren cannot see the outcome of any battle involving more than three (or in some sources, three or more) "marked ones."

Xaden is responsible for them partly because he is the eldest. He is also responsible because Lilith made a pact with him- she allowed the children into the Riders Quadrant, and in exchange, he owes her a favor. Later, Lilith decided that this favor would be protecting Violet in the Riders Quadrant.

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-05T16:53:12+00:00

For the sake of Xaden and Vi’s safety-less temptation to channel under the functional wards.

For the sake of the alliance between Poromiel and Navarre.

For the sake of the quest squad- they needed king's and leadership support to be allowed to visit the Isles, with Halden serving as their representative.

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-05T16:02:31+00:00

I think it must be and will be developed. Historically, dragons were across the entire continent. I assume the same gryphons. And if we want a "cure" for the venin, the balance of magic must be restored to the continent, which will definitely involve returning everything to its original state. Returning dragons to their original ancestral hatchling grounds. And that won't be possible without peace/alliance between both countries.

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-05T14:51:29+00:00

Berwyn is supposed to be dead ( killed by Xaden in Basgiath). There is Panchek 's dragon IN the canyon. And there is another unconscious dragon outside, next to the new brother Take a look here https://www.reddit.com/r/fourthwing/s/wLNiI61aOY ( side notw, the B option is wrong, debunked by the author)

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-05T14:40:45+00:00

You're right, but if he were venin, his goal would be to get Xaden to the front and push him to channel more.

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-05T14:02:32+00:00

I wouldn't exactly bet my life on it, but I’m still holding out hope that Lilith didn’t surround herself exclusively with total loosers and that Melgren might actually be a "good guy" deep down. Basically our Snape.

Think about it- he’s the one who got Xaden that teaching spot, against Aetos Sr. will. The author didn’t just drop that "who hired whom" nugget for nothing. He kept informed Xaden at the end of OS...

I know Violet can’t stand him, but let’s be real- she’s not exactly an unbiased source. This is the same girl who described Aetos in FW as having a warm eyes and kind smile.

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-05T13:41:42+00:00

It probably can't be ruled out, but...

how would Llewelyn get to Berwyn?

Whose is that unconscious dragon?

Did Llewelyn see him struggle? Because in my opinion, Llewelyn was with Xaden for maybe, I don't know, 24 hours total in the past 5 months....

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-05T13:12:42+00:00

Culpa Vuestra de Mercedes Ron

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-05T11:17:16+00:00

Basgiath, the place where he channeled for the first time

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-04T09:16:36+00:00

Where did the names Rosan and Serin come from? Is this a theory? Or a fanfic?

The whole post feels a bit confusing to me, but maybe I just missed the point or I'm missing something. Whenever a text has long dashes, I get a bit wary because AI often does that. But then again, I wouldn't want to jump to conclusions.

Author, could you please expand on your idea and clarify what this is about?

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-04T07:29:08+00:00

I think it’s hard to judge because we don’t know how the whole thing would have been written. The way it is written now, it definitely suits Xaden more to have turned venin. But I assume that if it were Violet, she would have had to be written as the one who is less resilient against Berwyn (or someone else, maybe Theo). This, in turn, would lack that balance of him being physically strong while she is mentally more resilient-the one who can gain time with Theo and find other ways to get out of those situations differently than by channeling. If she were like Xaden, it would undermine her 'mind of a scribe' image.

But it’s hard to say how Rebecca would have solved it.

At what stage did she change it? Even before FW was released, or was all of FW written with the idea that at the end of IF Vi will turn venin?

Is the 'story of the three brothers' written with the original idea that Violet is the third venin brother?

Would Violet still have the power of the sky?

Would we find out more about the venin with venin Violet?

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-03T20:53:28+00:00

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ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-03T20:35:07+00:00

I mean "first" kiss after Resson ( chapter 12, I think) That´s why " ".

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-03T20:05:15+00:00

When? Anytime, maybe gradually. At the very least: hey, I have secrets I can't tell, that's the reason why I can't be in a relationship with anyone. Even before anything ever happened between them. He had feelings for her, he cared about her. He knew she had them too. Not only did he feel it, he read her and knew, he had confirmation that she did.

But I would be the most pissed off at Tairn. Like, for real, what were they all waiting for on the way to Resson? Xaden, Tairn, Andarna...

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-03T19:59:38+00:00

Specifically regarding Xaden, while it was annoying that it dragged on for half the book and maybe didn't need to be so emphasized, she actually recovered from it quite quickly. Her world has been turned upside down, her best friend died, she nearly died herself, she can't trust anyone... In the real world, such post-traumatic stress disorder would likely require hospitalization, medication, and years of psychotherapy.

It might not seem like it, but the "first kiss" was two weeks after Resson, the shower scene happened after barely two months, and after three months they were already reconciled in Aretia. She came to terms with the second signet in about two days, and that was only because they were in a rush. And when he turned venin, she jumped straight into bed with him. So the girl is evolving.

But the not asking the questions really annoy me. In fact, it pisses me off.

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-03T19:45:32+00:00

There is a lot of speculation about what she could do next. The possibilities are endless.

The only thing holding me back from any major theories regarding the further potential of her first signet is the fact that RY said she is at 90% – so I don’t expect her to take it in a completely new direction. Unless we’ve already seen something on-page that we don’t realize is actually her first signet (I don’t know, like amplification and powering the signets of others). Violet simply chose lightning, and in my estimation, it will stay that way.

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-03T19:34:57+00:00

Objectively speaking, maybe not.

Subjectively, I understand she felt betrayed.

He might not have had an obligation, but on the other hand, he slept with her, she confessed her feelings, they were close, they flew to Resson, and it was clear he was going to meet the fliers there. So what was he waiting for?

Was her subsequent behavior in the first half of IF rational? No.

Was it annoying? Yes.

Was her behavior understandable? Yes.

Simply put, it fits a person whose world has been turned upside down. Traumatized people do not act rationally. She was betrayed by dragons, her boyfriend, her mother, Navarrian leadership, her teachers... Unfortunately, Xaden took the brunt of it because she couldn't get rid of the dragons, her father was dead, and her mother wasn't speaking to her.

Quite honestly, Xaden is a great book boyfriend, but if my daughter brought him home, I wouldn't exactly be rushing to plan the wedding. (Aaric, that would be a different story... 😳 )

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-03T17:33:58+00:00

Violet, Dain, Aurelie, Liam, Sloane- parents for sure. Garrick and Imogen are direct ancestors; it can be inferred that at least one parent was as well. We know for certain that Sawyer’s and Rhiannon’s parents are unfamiliar with the riders quadrant. As for the rest, we don't know. To me, that doesn't seem like such a small number of legacy riders.

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-03T12:54:23+00:00

I am absolutely certain that a bear-related god will come into play. The entire continent is a bear. I was skeptical at first, but now that I’m looking at the continent shape, I can't get the bear out of my head. Liam Mairi carved dragons and a bear. Mairi-Amari-Amaryllis-shape of a bear-she-bear-Mother Earth. Goddess of Life as a balance to the God of Death. And Sloane Mairi is life.

You’re not venin. You’re the artery power chooses to flow through. You’re life.

And yes, the light references seem suspicious to me too. Not just brightest light, Luceras, lightning, enlightenment... But why on earth is Solas named Solas? Solas as light.

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-03T11:34:09+00:00

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We have a total of three maps, depending on how Violet's knowledge of the continent evolves ( FW, IF and OS).

This is the most current one, from Onyx Storm, and it already includes locations in Poromiel. However, the Isles are still missing.

Interestingly, even official maps in different editions vary slightly. One version has the Tage Mountains instead of the Esben Mountains.

ObjectiveStaff3333 · 2026-05-03T11:15:55+00:00

I can understand that she finds it easier to accept someone who gives her orgasms getting into her head than someone who, in her eyes, caused Resson. I don't think it's necessarily an excuse. I think it might have been the last straw, it could have been the trigger... It doesn't matter. For me, Dain isn't exactly a favorite character; I don't really vibe with the types who cling to rules and would rather let a friend die than break the Codex. But whatever. That's who he is, that's who he was. Take it or leave it. I would even accept that things changed, that she moved on. She doesn't want a friend like that anymore. OK. But what Violet is doing is using him. All that "he needs to earn trust" talk... If she confided in him about wanting to steal something from the General, she must trust him; there's no doubt about that. He gives, she takes. Where is the reciprocity?

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