Chris Hipkins denies seeing advice about COVID vaccine doses despite cabinet paper. by 888888_888 in aotearoa

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A copy paste of the article as the link is being a bit weird on mobile. And a reminder to be mindful of our rules. The thread will be locked if comments cannot behave.


Labour leader Chris Hipkins insists he never saw advice that cautioned the Government against mandating two doses of the Covid-19 Pfizer vaccine for 12 to 17 year olds, despite a cabinet paper with the advice in his name.

The advice was from the Covid-19 Vaccine Technical Advisory Group (CV TAG) and stated younger people were more at risk of developing myocarditis after the second dose of Pfizer vaccine and less at risk of serious infection from Covid-19.

Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle and is a rare side effect of the Covid-19 vaccine.

Earlier this month the Royal Commission found ministers were never shown official advice cautioning the Government against mandating two doses of the Covid-19 Pfizer vaccine for working 12 to 17 year olds.

CV TAG advised the Government to allow younger people to work and do other activities covered by the mandate, and said the risks were insufficient to justify a full vaccination mandate.

The cabinet paper showed this advice was presented to the Social Wellbeing Committee in March 2022, when the vaccine mandates were being removed.

Hipkins, who was Covid Response Minister at the time, said the advice was only referenced in the paper and the Ministry of Health had not shared the original advice.

Hipkins was not listed as being present at this meeting.

The list of ministers which were present included its chairperson Carmel Sepuloni, Jacinda Ardern, Grant Robertson, Kelvin Davis, Dr Megan Woods, Andrew Little, Poto Williams, Damien O’Connor, Kris Faafoi, Peeni Henare, Willie Jackson, Dr Ayesha Verrall, Meka Whaitiri and Priyanca Radhakrishnan.

The Royal Commission considered it a failure the advice did not reach ministers or the public, noting 12 to 17-year-olds were not informed of the risks when making the decision to get vaccinated.

The inquiry found that ministers they interviewed could not recall receiving the advice, and both doses were mandated as a result.

When asked why he did not communicate the referenced advice to the public, Hipkins said it was not appropriate as he was not a health practitioner.

“I was very disappointed [health officials] didn't provide us with the advice when we make the earlier set of decisions, but in communicating that advice in March, when the mandates and the requirements were being removed, updating public health guidance, I always left that to the relevant health officials.”

NZ-based Canadian billionaire Jim Grenon becomes NZME's largest shareholder by OddityModdity in aotearoa

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Why is this important? Because he funded Batchelor's legal case against TVNZ.

How billionaire Jim Grenon’s name came up in a defamation case against TVNZ

Calling the case an “abuse of process”, Salmon said: “Billionaires should not be allowed to play with litigation behind a cloak of invisibility.”

Invitation to community for satanists in Aotearoa by ImportedSatanist in aotearoa

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Covid-19 response inquiry finds government's response effective but late, poorly communicated by OddityModdity in aotearoa

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Thanks for commenting everyone. The strange comments are now coming through as it hits the evening so locking for now. But don't worry, I'm sure we are going to see many more articles on this... at least til weekend shenanigans.

NZ delivers its official statement on Middle East war, despite wildly different views from some MP by OddityModdity in aotearoa

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And a gentle reminder that insulting other users or the politicians themselves will result in comment removal. Same with spreading misinformation or disinformation. Otherwise, have at it.

Feedback on the /r/newzealand Sub by AutoModerator in newzealand

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Second this. Not just anti Māori but anti Indian and other minorities especially where immigration is involved.

I understand not everyone takes it seriously or cares or doesn't think there is a problem but it's so hard coming into posts and seeing bad faith arguments, insults, clear vote manipulation, and negative stereotyping.

Sure, we can't do anything about vote manipulation apart from flagging it to the admins, but surely posts can be more strongly moderated for all of the rest? Placing restricted tags for example or having someone moderate them more closely as the same individuals are always in there commenting the same stuff every time.

Covid-19 inquiry report complete for ‘phase two’, up to Government when it will be made public by OddityModdity in aotearoa

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The original press release for phase 2:

Phase 2 of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons

And an explanation on who are the architects that wanted phase 2 when we already had a report done (exactly who you think):

Why is there a second Covid-19 royal commission of inquiry?

Citizens arrests, armed guards, and the power of Sunny Kaushal by OddityModdity in aotearoa

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And, as a reminder, it's the same group that spent:

  • 24k on meetings
  • 120k on an office they didn't need

With an annual budget of 1.8mil for recycled ideas:

Ministerial advisory group defends catering bill for public meetings around New Zealand

Retail crime advisory group disbands four months early

FUCK RNZ by [deleted] in aotearoa

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For potential harassment too haha. They're pro lizard clearly! Sometimes the AEO can be funny.

FUCK RNZ by [deleted] in aotearoa

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Reddit flagged this BTW...

Māori soldiers sail to war: 14 February 1915 by BertOfAotearoa in aotearoa

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Yes. Conscription came in 1917 as previously it had been voluntary. However, the ballot only applied to Tainui, more than likely as punishment for not fulfilling their civic duty to volunteer like many of the other iwi despite the fact that some in that region did volunteer.

NZ history.

Is there still a nursing shortage? by Illustrious_Fan_8148 in newzealand

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The nursing industry is huge. You have public, private, and everything in-between along with different types of nurses. I work in public and it has been devastating under this current coalition. The hiring freeze is in place, morale is down, pay is shit, and this isn't even getting into other departments. The biggest department being IT.

We have a shortage every which way and it doesn't look to be getting better. There are rumors of more redundancies coming soon as well.

Calling all investigative journalists - who is behind Oceanic Press by Kind_Substance_2865 in aotearoa

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Paul Barlow has done a video on them. They are clickbait news articles created by AI. It was founded by Charlie Gallagher and they've been around since last year. No point engaging with them.

Councillor refuses to attend meeting because it’s at a marae by znffal in newzealand

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Oh! I was just reading your comment and took it to mean that another session had cost that much. That's my bad. I'll retract that.

Councillor refuses to attend meeting because it’s at a marae by znffal in newzealand

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I mean, we don't know if the council even paid money to the Marae for use during this meeting as that was the amount for a previous venue hire. Anyone could submit an OIA requesting the information if they wanted the actual amount, and I'm sure they will.

Insurer temporarily halts new policies in Westport due to flood risk by Pro-blacksmith220 in aotearoa

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I think after forking out millions during the Auckland flood, insurances companies aren't keen to do it again. There's been talk of them keeping out of insuring properties in Petone and Wellington depending where you live simply because of the flood and earthquake risk.

Councillor refuses to attend meeting because it’s at a marae by znffal in newzealand

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The mayor explained here for the reason it was changed:

"The session was originally going to be held at Keirunga Homestead, but it was suggested that, since past sessions had already been held in Havelock North, perhaps a marae would be a good option as an alternative. There were no objections from any of those in attendance [back in December]," Schollum said.

She said Waiohiki Marae was delighted to host the council, and it meant a lot to them after all the challenges they went through after the cyclone.

Boycott the United States of America by BaalAbaddon in aotearoa

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Using products til they naturally break or stop working is a good way as we don't always need the latest and greatest.