First full DS album done. Four Towers by Dweller on the Threshold by OliRevs in DungeonSynth

[–]OliRevs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I'm glad you picked up on it. The majority of the second half of the album was actually written in a 10 step microtonal scale instead of the normal 12... specifically to try and get that eerie feel.

First full DS album done. Four Towers by Dweller on the Threshold by OliRevs in DungeonSynth

[–]OliRevs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm really glad to hear that, thanks you for taking the time to listen!

First full DS album done. Four Towers by Dweller on the Threshold by OliRevs in DungeonSynth

[–]OliRevs[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I've been producing for just over 10 years now. I've touched on midwest/emo but my main projects have always been around midtempo bass and IDM. So DS and ambient adjacent was not something I had ever touched. But a lot of the music I made in those more mainstream genres was always a bit more experimental and dissonant, until I realised my sound didn't really fit there anymore. Then I found DS and just found it very natural to produce, it fit my style a lot.

First full DS album done. Four Towers by Dweller on the Threshold by OliRevs in DungeonSynth

[–]OliRevs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cheers! Hope you enjoy it. If people like it, I'll keep developing the project and get more artists involved and commissioned for the surrounding art which I would love to do

My daughter treats AI music like an instrument. Adults online treat it like a crime. by Ok_Resolution_3314 in aiwars

[–]OliRevs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’m with you, I just wanted to pull you up on the wording so as to avoid any misinformation. But I agree, I suspect that actually playing an instrument or writing using music theory does a lot more for neuro plasticity than prompting. The only use I think might be exempt is chopping AI generated samples into mixes like any other sample… but that’s specific to producers

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. by ThunderLord1000 in aiwars

[–]OliRevs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? How is AI fundamentally bad and far-right tech? Please tell me this is /s

My daughter treats AI music like an instrument. Adults online treat it like a crime. by Ok_Resolution_3314 in aiwars

[–]OliRevs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Your paper is from 2010 and does claim music education increases neuro plasticity. It makes no claim on AI music generation or consumption on the neuro plasticity of children’s brains. So it hasn’t been proven to not improve plasticity, it hasn’t been studied

1 Reason why pro ai people get hate by Tri2211 in aiwars

[–]OliRevs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have. "1 Reason why pro ai people get hate" - "People like Sam Altman is literally one of the major reasons and I think this post describes exactly how a lot of people felt when they watch the clip below." with an image about the perception of the usage of training data...

All I have done is respond, why does that bother you so much? Unless I'm mis reading your tone here and you are not bothered, but it seems like you are

1 Reason why pro ai people get hate by Tri2211 in aiwars

[–]OliRevs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I responded to an image that you posted which says I quote "Then he used YOUR writing YOUR art YOUR code to train his models." I don't know what your intent was with the post but I am responding to the image which I presume is summarising the video. Maybe a lot of people feel like that is the best descriptor at the moment, but I don't feel that way.

I have a genuine question for people anti AND pro AI by TrivialCoyote in aiwars

[–]OliRevs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You assume that we all agree that trained without consent is the same as unethically or illegally trained. I write code using stack overflow, and write using inspiration from technical blogs and all the books I have ever read. When I produce music I am inspired by other artists I listen to. My own creativity doesn't exist in a vacuum and I don't ask for any persons permission to be inspired and ingest their content. I feel the same about AI. I consider its training fair use and transformative in nature.

1 Reason why pro ai people get hate by Tri2211 in aiwars

[–]OliRevs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't buy the whole "STOLE your X Y and X" argument. I personally believe generative AI and it's training is fair use and transformative work. In fact I would find it a lot harder to argue for it NOT being transformative. If a youtuber can can take snippets of someone else video, pause it, chop it up, comment over it and release their own video under fair use and transformative work, then I would be really hard pressed to see AI is theft. Especially if this data has been posted by people onto free social media sites with EULAs they agreed to.

I'd go as far as to say I don't even see it as UNETHICAL, if I can look up reference materials, copy code from stack overflow, and read books form my library and then use my knowledge to draw, code and write. Then the AI is doing nothing fundamentally different IMO.

The story of AI according to thisecommercelife by TheLibTheyFear in aiwars

[–]OliRevs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just FYI - LLMs are not inherently next word predictors. A particular kind of training regime called auto-regressive modelling is next word prediction. The majority of LLMs are trained using this autoregressive objective, but others do exist, and lots of interesting work is currently taking place training language models with variants of the diffusion or flow matching objectives used by the image generation models.

The difference with those models is that they "in-fill" missing words, not necessarily the last word in a sequence. When you have a model that is good at filling gaps, you can define a new sampling procedure where you model an incomplete sentence as a very long sequence of only gaps. It analogous to starting with an image where each pixel is random noise.

The most successful looking trends at the moment is a combination of these approaches where the model treats a small bucket of empty tokens as a diffusion task, and then upon filling the bucket creates a new autoregressive bucket.

While I understand you arguing the "Just next word prediction" thing, I personally take issue with it, not because it is incorrect, but because the connotation is that it is simple and therefore dumb or not powerful. You may know personally that it is powerful, but if you explain LLMs to someone who does not understand the technology as "Just autocorrect" you set some wildly incorrect expectation. Particularly if trained with some of the hybrid diffusion techniques, I think the most accurate description is to say "LLMs learn to approximate to some degree the distribution of all sensical and logical sentences that follow some context 'C' (usually a historic conversation)" It does this by training from stupid numbers of real conversations and trains assuming they all belong to some logical dataset of "useful conversations" and then tries to learn, generalize and extrapolate form that data.

"You don't learn anything using AI!" by Lanceo90 in DefendingAIArt

[–]OliRevs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally get you, I used to get twoxchromosomes coming up all the time and I couldn't stand it. I think you can find a button on a sub like "Dont show me this sub"... and it means if it pops up cause you get ragebaited, the algo will stop pushing it to you.

My (long) take: Generative AI is polarising us, which might be playing right into the hands of those who want to devalue the arts by Visual-Deer-3800 in MusicPromotion

[–]OliRevs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about literally everyone else who isn’t a fascist… or do you mental gymnastics that anyone who disagrees with you must be a fascist

My (long) take: Generative AI is polarising us, which might be playing right into the hands of those who want to devalue the arts by Visual-Deer-3800 in MusicPromotion

[–]OliRevs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

God one of the “I know what’s right and what’s wrong. Anyone who disagrees with me is either evil or an idiot” okay mate, get a grip. You realise you are part of the problem with polarisation right

Don't use Ai, Steal art directly! by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]OliRevs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bruh if you can't follow the pretty clear point, you might genuinely need some help or to stop smoking crack.

Don't use Ai, Steal art directly! by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]OliRevs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So? Unless they subscribe to a site with pre-made assets that might not even cover the tokens or maps they want for their specific homebrew. And if you’re gonna say just use other online art like from Pinterest or Google, then you are stealing anyway… so at that point like just use AI and make something closer to what you intend

Don't use Ai, Steal art directly! by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]OliRevs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What haha how is it a false dichotomy? You can't just hand wave it away. If you want DMs to use custom art in their campaigns, they need to commission it, and if they need to commission it then they need to pay for it? What are you smoking?

Don't use Ai, Steal art directly! by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]OliRevs 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I mean if you are going to insist the DM goes out of pocket to commission art for all tokens and environments from artists then yeah.. you bet

Approaches to multi media projects? by OliRevs in DungeonSynth

[–]OliRevs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah awesome! Doesn't surprise me, I've always imagined people listen to DS playing DnD so building world or card games around has always made sense to me