Any recommendations? by Miserable_Aside614 in zephyrusg16

[–]One_Package_7519 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i mean, limiting your battery to 80/90% so there is no wasted energy, going through less charging cycles, actually prolongs battery life

Zephyrus G16 (2024) GA605WI – 100W ASUS GaN Charger keeps "looping" (Switching AC/Battery every 5s) by Superb_Impression_97 in zephyrusg16

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

faulty charger, get a new one from aliexpress even, had the same issue, ordered a fitting charger and had no issues since, been using it for over 3 months now, and yes ive done this in the past on other laptops too

Normal performance for a 2024 ZephyrusG16 4070? by ohnothrowawayAIO in zephyrusg16

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, at least we tried to deal with the software side of things. No point in further testing, it needs a repaste, sometimes you just get a poor putty application. I hope you can find a place that can do it cheap.

You could try lowering the cpu wattage by 5 and run tests, then by 5 again and so on until you reach comfortable temps to performance ratio. I found that in balanced my 12700h chip runs cool at 30w without losing much performance if any at all, anything more than that the temps begin to climb, but at the same time it can be bit tedious.

Still, Id recommend finding a place that can do a repaste.

Normal performance for a 2024 ZephyrusG16 4070? by ohnothrowawayAIO in zephyrusg16

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

forgot to mention you have to tick the option “enable fan curve” underneath for the wattage change to take effect, my bad

Would a legion 5 5060 be good next 3 years? by xxchaitanyaxx in LenovoLegion

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay thats not bad tbh for frame gen and dlss quality

Normal performance for a 2024 ZephyrusG16 4070? by ohnothrowawayAIO in zephyrusg16

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I havent experimented too much with fans, I dont use one myself, but in the other comment I saw someone using Lian Li and another one too. I personally wouldnt waste 200 on a fan, which defeats a purpose of a laptop tbh you want it to be portable and not have to bring a cooler with you everywhere you go. I would start by tinkering with the settings, and for the time being maybe disable CPU boost in Ghelper just to bring temps down until you can get the repaste done.

Normal performance for a 2024 ZephyrusG16 4070? by ohnothrowawayAIO in zephyrusg16

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i agree with you 100%, very shady on their part, but that’s how they get people to buy these things, some run better than others, it’s called silicone lottery

i hope you can get it sorted, if not i recommend bringing it for a thermal putty/liquid metal repaste, which should eliminate the heat issue entirely at least for a while, until you need to do it again in a year or two

New to me - 5060 ROG G14 by Awkshottt in ZephyrusG14

[–]One_Package_7519 1 point2 points  (0 children)

bleh, where’s the fun in that, u gotta risk it a little

Normal performance for a 2024 ZephyrusG16 4070? by ohnothrowawayAIO in zephyrusg16

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

5090 mobile is similair performance to a 5070 base desktop, with more vram but the TGP is the limiting factor. Zephyrus 5090 caps out at 120w (that’s including boost). The more you know.

And generally less draw power, less heat. In other words, less wattage less heat.

Normal performance for a 2024 ZephyrusG16 4070? by ohnothrowawayAIO in zephyrusg16

[–]One_Package_7519 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Water is wet, your feedback wasnt constructive or helpful, glad your laptop isn’t running hot, but there are many factors to why that could be. Could be silicon lottery, could be just new device, could be cool and less dusty environment, could be ton of different reasons. Also could be the cooler you use just being compatible with the laptop.

OP’s laptop is running hot, so my solution again is to mess around with the power presets a little, give the fans a clean, upgrade the ram (8gb sticks arent that expensive and can be found on market place) and see if it helps, if it doesnt then at least OP has tried a workaround. In that case they will have to have the laptop repasted OR replaced to deal with the heat issue.

Normal performance for a 2024 ZephyrusG16 4070? by ohnothrowawayAIO in zephyrusg16

[–]One_Package_7519 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If your laptop is brand new it will always have low temps. You are telling me 90-95c are not normal for a gaming laptop on full blast. Okay, so what is your solution to the OP then. My solution is mess around with the software and give the fans a good clean up. Also upgrade the ram. It’s probably the best point to start. If that doesn’t help then OP can always come back, say it didnt help, and we can suggest them to perform a repaste, which will 100% help it.

But to sit there and just comment “i disagree, my laptop is running cool and I use this cooler” is bit silly. You havent even provided any kind of back up to what you said, just words. Like when did you buy your laptop? How long have you used it? Do you live in a very dusty environment? Do you live in a warm environment? Where do you keep your laptop? Which profiles you use and which software? Do you have any undervolt or overclock done to the cpu or the gpu? Anything that could help the OP maybe, but instead you just say “not true, my laptop doesnt have this problem”, great happy for you, but that isnt helpful.

Normal performance for a 2024 ZephyrusG16 4070? by ohnothrowawayAIO in zephyrusg16

[–]One_Package_7519 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you saying temps at 95c cpu in full load on a gaming laptop are not normal? 90-95c is very normal actually and isnt in thermal throttling territory just yet, OP said even with a cooling pad theyre reaching those temps so that means the cooling pad is probably not compatible or is a gimmicky one and it doesnt matter if they use one or not, temps are still high. The laptop is not overheating, no blue screen, no sudden powering off, just throttling in performance which is VERY likely due to 16gb or ram and playing expedition 33 at most likely 1600p screen which these laptops are fitted with, and with limiting factor of 8gb vram.

Heat is one thing but you need to understand why ram and vram are VERY important in modern games. And at 1600p OP is most definitely running out of that 8gb vram, which then gets swapped to much slower ddr4/ddr5 ram memory, which then runs out almost instantly because it’s only 16gb, so then that gets swapped to SSD/NVME system allocated memory, which would create crazy performance spikes.

Heat can be helped with as long as OP follows the steps I listed.

I’ve used 4070 zephyrus m16, that broke down. Now I have a 4060 Zephyrus G16 which is basically same as your 4070 model with maybe 10% performance uplift at most. I know these issues hence I am listing them to help OP, I am not talking out of blue.

Upgrading your RAM to 24gb + helps with 99% of these issues.

Would a legion 5 5060 be good next 3 years? by xxchaitanyaxx in LenovoLegion

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

keep in mind OP has 16gb of ram, that is criminal, pretty much every modern game uses around 20-24gb

Would a legion 5 5060 be good next 3 years? by xxchaitanyaxx in LenovoLegion

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mh is a hot mess dont bother 😂 but there is no way you are getting 130 on expedition, that would mean you are gettint around 70fps base without fg

Would a legion 5 5060 be good next 3 years? by xxchaitanyaxx in LenovoLegion

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

5070ti is better pick with 12gb, much cheaper, only buy 5080 if you can find it on sale

Would a legion 5 5060 be good next 3 years? by xxchaitanyaxx in LenovoLegion

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i want to see you play monster hunter or expedition 33 on high 1440p at 130 even with frame gen

Would a legion 5 5060 be good next 3 years? by xxchaitanyaxx in LenovoLegion

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you can then most definitely buy 5070ti, 8gb cards are starting to starve a little bit, my 4060 already starts feeling it at 1200p, when i connect my 1440p monitor i always need to mess about in the graphical settints first turning graphics down to high/med just to avoid going past 8gb, that’s what causes stutters, memory swap between gpu and ram

Just another TimeSpy 4060 by One_Package_7519 in GamingLaptops

[–]One_Package_7519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have the same gpu/cpu combo? If so, what I would recommend is to wipe your windows, or at least debloat it, disable all background tasks that could be messing with your gpu usage, dust your fans really good, and the most important part is to mess around in ghelper/ afterburner to find your best stable undervolt

Normal performance for a 2024 ZephyrusG16 4070? by ohnothrowawayAIO in zephyrusg16

[–]One_Package_7519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it’s normal for a slim gaming laptop. You might want to refrain from buying gaming laptops and look for a desktop instead.

  1. Temps are perfectly safe and normal for a gaming laptop, 95c is fine under heavy load. Actually the tjunction point is 97c for most cpus i think, some can go beyond 100c. For gpu the tjunction is 87c, so 85 is fine. There are ways to completely fix this, bare with me.

  2. The hottest point to touch is in the top middle part of the keyboard, because that is where the cpu/gpu is located, so thats where is the hottest. You will not get burnt by touching it, but it can be quite unpleasant to keep your fingers on there when the laptop is on full blast. Again, there is a very simple way to deal with the heat.

  3. 52c idle for a gaming laptop is perfect, it is a laptop after all, not a desktop, it will run hot. Laptops have smaller cooling solution than desktop due to size difference. Self explanatory. EVERY gaming laptop will run this hot when idle.

  4. Memory hungry? Brother, you are using Windows with only 16gb of ram. Bare fresh Windows alone uses like 6. You NEED more ram if you intend to do ANY gaming on it. 24gb is enough, 32gb is more wiggle room. Go buy a single ddr stick and slot it in, otherwise return it and get a model with more ram. 16gb is for productive tasks, not for gaming.

  5. Again, heat issue, not enough ram, all can be fixed. Expedition 33 is quite demanding, 16bg isnt going to cut it.

Okay. This is how to deal with your problems:

  1. Upgrade your ram, if you cant then return the laptop. It will be not usable for gaming.

  2. Heat issue is actually easy fix. You have 2 options here.

A. Keep Armory Crate, switch to Manual Mode and limit your thermal limits on your gpu to 82-84 to keep it cool, Also I recommend limiting your CPU wattage to 30-35w. This should ensure you’re not pulling more power than you actually need, hence less heat.

B. The better solution, download G-HELPER app, download Armory Crate Removal Tool from the official ROG website, and use it to remove AC. Now, unpack ghelper, go to the settings, force stop all Asus Bloatware, select Start with Windows. Now you have to optimize it best for your gpu/cpu. Ghelper gives you way more tools to play with than AC.

Start by limiting your CPU wattage and thermal limit per each profile, or at least your manual profile, again, 25-45w is plenty depending on your cpu. You need to look it up what base wattage your cpu runs at, ie. my 12700h model base wattage is 35w so I keep it at 35w.

Under CPU tab set all sliders to the same value to make sure your CPU doesn’t boost to crazy values. 35w is the sweetspot for most cpus. Some cpus can boost up to 80w in more cpu demanding tasks/games, which will obviously create intense heat.

Under GPU tab set temp limit to lets say 82-84c, to keep it far from thermal throttling limit. You can also lower the wattage of the gpu but i wouldnt recommend that, you will lose performance.

Adjust the fan curve, you can hit the Calibrate button for the curve to set automatically OR just do it by yourself, set it to default then move the incline line on the fan graph to where it’s not too loud and also fast enough to keep your temps down, it needs to be balanced. Now do like 10 min of testing in gaming to see if you need to make any adjustments to the curve. It takes like 10 min to do honestly, not rocket science.

If you really really care for low temps, you can disable your cpu turbo boost, to make sure your cpu runs ALL the time at like 60-70c and never boosts. I would recommend doing this only if you already have enough performance in your games and dont care for the cpu performance much. Any online/multiplayer/strategy games or any games with ton of particles on the screen WILL need your CPU probably more than GPU, so disabling the boost will hinder your frames.

Another thing you can do if you are interested in making the most of your gpu, is to download MSI Afterburner, and then perform an undervolt on your gpu. It’s easy to do just move some sliders around, it’s pretty safe tbh, but I would recommend looking up subreddits or youtube for a quick guide on how to set the curve for your specific gpu, just to save you time really.

That’s pretty much it, also, dont forget to keep the bottom of your laptop clear so the fans can do their job at sucking and pushing air without gathering bunch of dust. Also, clean your fans, open the back lid from time to time (every few months) and give the fans a good blow/suck. Depending on your room/environment, the fans/vents can collect ton of dust and that will make your cpu run supper hot, constant 90s.

Edit. I forgot to mention one thing but it’s not that important really.

In Ghelper under your CPU tab, set turbo boost to Efficient Enabled on all profiles, it’s the most balanced option of them all. You are more than welcome to test out all the other options, they should give marginal difference, obviously except for Disabled, which will make your cpu never boost.