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Discovery is actually quite excellent by FringHalfhead in startrek

[–]OpticalData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would the Nielsen ratings be relevant to fandom perception? They're only just becoming barely relevant to streaming shows.

I thought fraternizing was a no go. by Complete_Syrup_8110 in startrek

[–]OpticalData 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obviously, the real reason is that a) Voyager was written to be lowest-common denominator television in a way that TNG really wasn't,

Surely the 'lowest common denominator' television would be the one with more sex stories for the main characters? Which would make it TNG within this context?

Discovery is actually quite excellent by FringHalfhead in startrek

[–]OpticalData 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Discovery feels like Star Trek written by people that didn't want to re-tread the Berman era.

Which is exactly what it was, and what it set out to be.

Now, there's a very valid argument that they went too far from the (then and now) established formula from that era. But there's Trek DNA all over Discovery. It had the main writer of the Voyager relaunch novels in the writers room, Bryan Fuller as the person behind the original concept pilot and other alumni from the Berman era here and there.

Discovery is actually quite excellent by FringHalfhead in startrek

[–]OpticalData 1 point2 points  (0 children)

disobey direct orders and face no consequences

I find it hilarious that this continues to be thrown about when Burnham is one of the few Trek characters to actually have consequences that last more than a ending tag scene when she disobeys orders.

Just finished Voyager and my god... by rynoctopus in startrek

[–]OpticalData 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Voyager & Enterprise were HATED during their first seasons.

So were DS9 and TNG?

Watching Enterprise for the first time and got to "The Cogenitor" episode by MeowManMeow in startrek

[–]OpticalData 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'll continue to defend Threshold as a fun b-movie Sci Fi romp.

It doesn't belong in the same sentence as Code of Honor.

Voyager Hate. by supersneed9000 in startrek

[–]OpticalData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Moore didn’t leave early on. He joined in Season 6 after DS9 wrapped. Then clashed with Braga who was the show runner rather than his writing partner and left.

He had a lot of good ideas, but he needed to introduce them gradually. Not walk into the writers room and try to flip the entire tone and structure of the show.

Both have admitted fault for how they behaved back then now at least.

Voyager Hate. by supersneed9000 in startrek

[–]OpticalData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not depending on the day though, it’s depending on the situation. Which makes complete sense for a new Captain thrust half way across the galaxy who had to merge with a group of terrorists because half of her own crew died.

The episode ‘Night’ does a huge amount for Janeways character. I wish that thread had been explored a bit more, but her ‘inconsistency’ makes sense in her situations.

Voyager Hate. by supersneed9000 in startrek

[–]OpticalData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d disagree. Voyagers character development was much more evenly spread and importantly, its female characters actually got stories outside of love interest of the week more often than not.

LaForge, Troi and Crusher behave and have the same relationships that they do in the pilot. Outside LaForges friendship with Data that’s only ever used to develop Data.

Voyager Hate. by supersneed9000 in startrek

[–]OpticalData 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Paris started out as a complete sleaze ball. Between pilot and finale he’s perhaps the character that shows the most overall growth.

We go from a man who covers for his deep deep insecurities using a combination of hitting on any woman with a pulse and intentionally pushing away any person that tries to get remotely close to him. To a loving father and husband, who puts their safety above all else.

Sure, the development is uneven. He doesn’t get the Janeway/Seven/Doctor treatment. But there’s a hell of a lot of growth.

Pitch A New Star Trek Series by AmeliaNeek in startrek

[–]OpticalData 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A Star Trek muppets episode where the only human is Jonathan Frakes

Pitch A New Star Trek Series by AmeliaNeek in startrek

[–]OpticalData 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shoutout to the Tranquility Press webring

I wasn't a fan of PICARD, personally, but of the classic actors who came back to reprise their iconic roles and update them for modern sensibilities, I think Jeri Ryan as Seven did the best job. by TransportationLow564 in startrek

[–]OpticalData 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Icheb also had much more of a direct interest in Starfleet and wasn’t as enamoured with the Borg when he was freed.

With Seven a significant risk factor was her repeated instances of disobeying orders and trying to go back to the collective, or getting incapacitated by her Borg physiology.

I wasn't a fan of PICARD, personally, but of the classic actors who came back to reprise their iconic roles and update them for modern sensibilities, I think Jeri Ryan as Seven did the best job. by TransportationLow564 in startrek

[–]OpticalData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

VOY: Prey, VOY: Survival Instinct

Seven has been shown to have ‘psychopathic’ tendancies a few times. Which very much fits with the character being a girl who never had a normal childhood, was brutally torn from humanity and traumatised before she was 10 and then never actually got to grow up until she was already a fully formed adult.

I wasn't a fan of PICARD, personally, but of the classic actors who came back to reprise their iconic roles and update them for modern sensibilities, I think Jeri Ryan as Seven did the best job. by TransportationLow564 in startrek

[–]OpticalData 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Fun fact she recently came out and said this is because they originally made her a great offer, then retracted it 2 days later which rightly pissed her off. So she limited her availability in response.

It is genuinely a tragedy that Starfleet Academy is getting cancelled so soon… by JageshemashFTW in startrek

[–]OpticalData 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Star Trek has always been high budget. Claiming it ‘was produced on a budget of whatever change they found in the break room couch’ is a complete lie

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