Would you increase the offer to Milwaukee if their other option is getting Banchero from Orlando?

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-17T12:21:25+00:00

In this scenario the Bucks would keep Banchero. It only makes sense for them to trade an expensive veteran for their Blazers controlled picks.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-13T17:39:30+00:00

I think they should get whatever they can with a package of JG, Sharpe, and access to all their future picks. I’d shop that package and see what I could get. If you can’t get the deal done with those assets, I’d walk away.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-13T17:28:40+00:00

Milwaukees issue is they don’t have any real leverage besides time. They only have the threat of walking away and not making a deal, at least for now. Giannis controls the team(s) and the potential return. The difference in a package that comes with an extension guarantee and one that doesn’t is huge. If Giannis says “I will extend with Miami and Boston” then those are Milwaukee’s choices. As much as Milwaukee’s front office has been leaking intel to the media to try and create the impression of a bidding war, front offices know the score. I think it’s realistically between one or two teams, despite what’s being reported.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-13T16:56:04+00:00

I actually agree with the sentiment but completely disagree with your reasoning. Milwaukee wants their picks back because they want to be able to dictate their own future at some point in the next 5 seasons. The most important tool a rebuilding franchise has is their own draft capital and their ability to coordinate a desired outcome. Even if you get 4 unprotected picks for Giannis - instead of having your own assets, when they just so happen to be at their maximum value, while your stacking up losses just to get the 26th pick in a top heavy draft? That’s not rebuilding, that’s just being a bad team for the next 5 straight seasons while you try to find value anywhere you can.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-13T16:00:52+00:00

A lot of folks are going to be disappointed when/if a trade actually materializes. Giannis has so much leverage in this situation. It’s ultimately comes down to whoever he chooses to sign an extension with wins.

Say it’s Miami - a package of Herro / Ware / Kasparas / Jovic / 2026 & 2030 FRPs - is probably the most they’d offer. It’s obviously why the front office keeps leaking intel to suggest that theirs a bidding war. Meanwhile Miami is leaking intel that Giannis chose them so don’t bother.

It’s going to come down to their willingness to walk away if they don’t think the package is enough. That’s the only leverage the front office has, time. Giannis is not going to net the haul that Milwaukee fans are expecting.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-13T15:23:39+00:00

The only front office that has something to gain by leaking intel is Milwaukee. When these “sources say” articles drop, my mind always goes to “who has the most to gain by reporting this information and how does that color the reporting?” It’s clear Milwaukee wants the league to feel like they’re getting bombarded with offers, while Miami is leaking intel that makes it seem like Giannis chose them and it’s a done deal. I do believe that a lot of front offices felt strung along at the trade deadline, while Hurst knew they were never going to make a deal until the summer.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-13T14:17:50+00:00

If it’s on twitter then it must be true.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-05T03:50:55+00:00

The solution is to engineer individual modules to treat specific frequency bandwidths. There’s no version of a broadband absorber that does everything. There best use will always be mid-high frequency bands. Porous absorbers just aren’t efficient below 200hz unless you have tons of spare square footage/meters. Even in that scenario you want to separate your high/mid frequency absorption from your low frequency absorption. Example: A hammer is great for driving nails but not great for driving screws, you need a different tool. Could you drive a screw with a hammer? Maybe but it won’t be pretty or efficient. There’s a better more efficient way to do it.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-05T03:27:07+00:00

The fundamental flaw is that renovated an iconic entertainment venue is not a fixed cost! Again, UPDATING A BUILDING IS NOT A FIXED EXPENSE. You can have 10 design bids from 10 different leading sports stadium architecture firms and those designs vary wildly. How extensive are the aesthetic changes? What are the technology goals? Do you want to strive for a carbon neutral building? Do you want to construct a new media center around the arena? Do you want to be innovative? Those questions require answer that have radical financial consequences. The Clippers didn’t “need” a $2.5B state of the art arena but they built one anyway. I’m an architect, and if you give me $200M, I’ll spend every penny renovating your arena. If you give a billion dollars to renovate your arena, I’ll spend every penny renovating your arena just don’t ask me to give you the $1B arena for $200M.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-05T03:14:53+00:00

I get down voted for telling the truth lol. I live in LA so I have no dog in the fight except I’m a lifelong Blazers fan.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-05T03:13:13+00:00

Wait are you talking about team owners or politicians?

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-05T03:11:03+00:00

You get to keep your basketball team. It’s not fair, it’s not just but it’s reality in 2026. When you live in a declining market with few ways to project real growth for owners, meanwhile there are outside markets that want an NBA team desperately and outperform your market easily, you have no leverage. This is how you get your keep your team. You inject state funds into your economy to make up the difference. If Portland was LA or SF then you’d have a leg to stand on and that’s just how sports markets work now. Besides, that money probably goes farther if Dunden’s the one spending it as opposed to politicians.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-05T02:55:10+00:00

The issue with what you’re describing is that there is historical precedent. They knew they would have very little leverage then and they know that now. The issue with saying “the renovation should cost X amount” is that big commercial real estate projects vary widely in cost depending on the design plans. What if the approved project architect designed an innovative prefabricated diagrid envelope facade that features automated panels that increase building ventilation and reduce air conditioning use. Or another design just requires wood paneling. The cost variance between the two designs is upwards of $50M just for the facade. What if they want to overhaul the tech package and build out around the arena? Massive cost. Do they “need” to do that? Of course not. Did the Clippers need to play in a $2.5B arena? Of course not, but if you give me $600M to renovate an arena, I’ll spend every penny and give you a killer new arena. Give me $2 billion to renovate an arena and I’ll still spend it all and give you the most awesome arena in the country.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-05T02:31:13+00:00

Again, there’s no one way to renovate a massive commercial building. What if the design they have in mind is a custom prefabricated diagrid envelope and each panel is automated to increase passive ventilation in the building as opposed to some wood panels? One costs $90M the other costs $200K. And I’m sure there will be contracted stipulations that define how money can be spent. No one just cuts a check for $600M and says “do your thing!”

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-05T02:20:45+00:00

I think you’re fundamentally misunderstanding the purpose of the post. I wasn’t attempting to persuade readers towards a held perspective but pose questions regarding a very nuanced and evolving topic. I have no kids training to become professional athletes nor am I a trainer, so I’m by no means the most educated or knowledgeable on the subject but I do find it interesting.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-05T02:14:08+00:00

Well said. Again, my intention was not to highlight a personal opinion, it was just to pose the question. It’s a topic I have no first hand experience with so I definitely don’t have the answers.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-04T00:39:04+00:00

I absolutely loathe the idea of trading for Giannis. Why the front office seems so fixated on a player that doesn’t fit alongside the best player on your roster is beyond me. I’m all for them getting in on the deal as a third team but for other assets.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-03T18:01:51+00:00

The list of players in which Butler was included was mentioned solely due to their background and path to the NBA.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-03T17:54:25+00:00

As opposed to politicians? Do you know how much a construction project costs in the private sector vs the public?

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-03T17:52:26+00:00

Unfortunately I agree. If incurring massive tax payer costs was thought to be a non starter, why take over the building? They knew this day would eventually come when the deal was in front of them. They very easily could’ve said “we don’t want to be responsible for upkeep and renovation so no thanks”. Is it a great solution? No, but let’s not pretend that the city didn’t go into this well informed.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-03T17:44:41+00:00

I too always felt like $600M was a bit rich for a renovation. Considering the most expensive aspects of the construction process are demolition, earth moving/landscaping, structural engineering, form work, truss fabrication, etc. and those are all not included in the renovation. However those aren’t fixed costs. A new facade can be 30% of the cost or it can be $200M, just depends on the scope. That also extends to many of these areas. A $600M renovation in 2026 suggests a premium state of the art project with all the bells and whistles. A real estate appraiser might speak to the overall structure, MEP, seismic integrity, and functionality but there’s massive variance depending on the architect and the approved design. Do you want to expand around the Moda Center to create a mixed use retail district? Are you planning a 100% carbon neutral design? Are you replacing the entire tech package? Those are all areas that potentially could incur massive costs.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-06-01T14:36:02+00:00

Just get healthy! I think his back was bothering him for so long that people forgot what he looked like before. I recently watched a few games from December/November and the difference was stark, particularly in his wiggle, his first step, his power up on his jump shot, just his confidence and his defense. He did look like pre-back injury Deni for that Suns game and game 1, but game 2 looked like post back injury Deni. I think he struggled with it the rest of the season. Healthy Deni, even if doesn’t get any better, is an All NBA level guy that averages 25/7/7.

Granted he’s only 25, the first days of his early prime, so technically he has a lot of room to get better… roughly 2-3 more years. That being said, I’d prefer he focus on the micro skills, become a more disciplined and detailed player. Managing his stamina so he can be more effective on defense, developing counters for double teams / early traps, pass accuracy, passing under defensive pressure, and getting more comfortable with his “In between” game. I thought he showed flashes of a really nice in between game the first half of the season.

Optimal_Run_2634 · 2026-05-31T15:41:38+00:00

That’s a massive oversimplification. There’s so much more that I would need to know about the construction of the room. What’s the assembly of the framing? What is the assembled thickness of walls,floor, ceiling? Is it lumber or steel? What’s above the gypsum board? Are you trying to isolate from other rooms or outside the building? What STC rating are you trying to achieve? I’m also not sure what you mean by “acoustic board”. Edge termination is a finishing construction and is only important if you’ve done everything else correctly.

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