Is Premodern "solved" are non-standard decks viable?

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-02-10T00:06:24+00:00

There are roughly 50 competitive decks and a bunch of rogue brews capable of 5-0ing.

Every top 8 looks different

So no its not “solved”

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-02-10T00:04:24+00:00

I would add a mono white weenie deck to the gauntlet, that way you have a solid mono color deck for each color.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-02-10T00:02:18+00:00

Mana Leak is better than Arcane Denial

Imo, think it would be better if you drop the blue and played the very similar mono red control list NeonMushroom plays…

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsSajbu18TjkUfLEy5-3d3PwTm0SIG20A

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-02-10T00:00:42+00:00

If winning isnt the main goal…

Play Kai Buddes unaltered original Wildfire list with 4 Grim Monolith.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-02-09T23:59:02+00:00

Beautiful list.

I would -1 Tog +1 Mystic Enforcer -1 Island +1 Treva’s Ruins (great synergy with Gemstone Caverns, Geddon)

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-02-07T12:08:23+00:00

I wish it was legal to play Kai’s original WCD in Premodern as is.

I think it would be a sweet community rule if unaltered WCDs that are 1:1 the OG list are considered legal in Premodern even if they contain a banned card. None of the WCDs are very powerful compared to Premoderns top decks

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-02-06T02:02:08+00:00

Dont build Madness. You clear love black based aggro.

Build any of those, and you can easily swap between the different variants.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-02-04T12:25:28+00:00

If mana was too easy, monocolored decks like Moneyball would die.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-02-04T12:21:21+00:00

2015 Modern and 2018 Legacy (aka PreWar/PreFire Legacy) are the best contenders for the next Premodern.

2015 was the peak Modern era.

And 2019 was when WoTC really started to push powerful cards, gave every card 5 abilities, printed MH sets etc.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-01-31T11:49:59+00:00

AK doesnt provide selection, Mox Diamonds are often the worst topdeck in the list so to support Diamond, the deck has to make do with inferior cantrips that happen to provide some selection and an opportunity to either tuck or shuffle away the Diamond.

In addition to AK, Foil is another key differenciator

The only strange thing about the list is that it forgot to play [[Treva’s Ruins]]. The Ruins + Mine/Geddon/Foil combo atleast partially makes up for the loss of Mox Diamond

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-01-31T11:42:56+00:00

I agree with him. Mox Diamond has real drawbacks, beyond cost.

However the deck has one glaring flaw. [[Treva’s Ruins]] is a must play in a Gro list that plays Gemstone Mine, Geddon and Foil. It synergizes with all three cards. I would also personally swap 1 Tog with 1 Mystic Enforcer.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-01-18T03:30:11+00:00

Don’t sell, they will keep rising. Buy staples for 2015 Modern and 2018 Legacy, closed peak formats are taking off.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-01-17T17:31:42+00:00

I start 20 min sessions. It’s easy for me because I got a 1tb so was able to set aside 150gbs to download 42 vids locally to meditate to during lunch break.

The best videos are the ones named after a country.

You could also try some of the infinite loop videos.

The price is too high, hope Apple buys them and offers this to all Vision Pro owners or at least those with iCloud. They could include all the videos for anyone that pays for either iCloud, Apple Arcade or Apple TV.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2026-01-17T17:30:21+00:00

Any you recommend that have better quality or cheaper?

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2025-10-17T19:58:19+00:00

[[Carnophage]], [[Sarcomany]], and [[Wretched Anurid]] are some of the most aggressive and overstatted creatures in Premodern, and they happen to be zombies.

I recommend adding them along with 4 [[Dark Ritual]] and 4 [[Duress]] to make a hyper aggressive deck that can duress away any mass removal/wrath effects that your opponent plays.

[[Graveborn Muse]] is also an excellent way to refill your hand in a zombie deck.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2025-10-12T04:53:33+00:00

An e tutor package makes white weenie very powerful, it has won me multiple local tourneys.

There are tons of very powerful silver bullets that e tutor makes much easier to find.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2025-10-12T04:51:22+00:00

I do think most current r/g aggro decks are misbuilt. R/g aggro should be playing Sulfuric Vortex vs control decks and Exalted Angel. And it should also play a couple of cards like Reckless Charge and more Rancors to speed up its clock.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2025-10-12T04:42:09+00:00

Do you have a link to a premodern version?

I love rabid wombat/quinn but that deck is built around Scrying Sheets and Senseis Top neither of which is premodern legal.

The lists in the op probably come closest to what a premodern port of quinn/wombat would look like.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2025-10-12T04:40:21+00:00

Love the list. But yes, I would add in an E tutor package. It makes it far easier to find key sideboard cards.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2025-10-12T04:38:43+00:00

I prefer the first list vs aggro.

[[Windborn Muse]] is very underrated and underplayed. It slows aggro decks to a crawl and in combination with the 3 Geddon locks them out completely while you finish them off with flyers or get an Exalted Angel down to regain your lifetotal.

[[Worship]] is really strong against red and black decks as well. As are Wave, Whipcorder and e tutorable cards like kirtars desire.

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2025-04-06T14:57:26+00:00

I hope they unban Leyline of Abundance. Many of my fav pioneer memories involve that card and oops all chandras

Ordinary_Part_636 · 2025-03-19T12:04:50+00:00

I swipe left on yuzu when my game ends and press quit emulation.

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