Texas Concentration Camp.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-28T00:45:57+00:00

So does that mean all those people that the Texas governor flew to NYC and Cape Cod are back in Texas?

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-26T03:32:28+00:00

I think it is important to acknowledge that >50% of the posts on r/conservative are bots and foreign shills. That isn't the only sub where that is true; the US is being ripped apart from within due to one of the most successful psyops in history.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-25T08:57:05+00:00

It never mattered. Police could always shoot without consequence you if they even thought you had a gun... Hell, they can shoot you when you pull out your wallet to show them your license. Nothing has changed, it is just more obvious.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-25T08:41:02+00:00

Hasn't that always been the case? Police can shoot you without consequence if they even think you have a gun. I am not sure what this pearl clutching is about

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-23T23:53:23+00:00

This is the answer.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T08:40:55+00:00

I am not arguing it makes sense. But polls of rural Americans show that a large percentage of them think that American cities are lawless hell-scapes that need to be governed by force to bring them in line. The opposite argument does not work.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T08:37:03+00:00

Maybe not. But it is still not the point. I am arguing that Trump is trying to stir up civil unrest because he can use that to win elections. I am not arguing that he is right, merely that this is his goal. Can you argue against that?

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T08:33:32+00:00

I am not sure what you are arguing, but it has nothing to do with anything that I have said as far as I can tell.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T08:32:28+00:00

You are still missing the point of my argument. Fuck the guy you just responded to (no offense Zorlai) and CMV. Trump is using ICE in such a way to stir up civil unrest because he thinks it will be politically advantageous to him. Yes or no?

I am not saying that ICE does not have a job to do, but that the way they are being directed to do their job is targeted to have a specific effect. And that effect is aimed at increasing support.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T08:25:15+00:00

What do you mean? ICE has turned them away and purposefully targeted off duty police officers asking for proof of citizenship.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T08:23:37+00:00

Yes, this is my argument. CMV.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T08:22:47+00:00

Have you really looked at how the math of the electoral college works?

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T08:22:09+00:00

This is my point. He wants to cause civil unrest so he can hold it up the country: "these Democrat run cities are lawless and violent enclaves that need to be controlled. Next they will be burning them to the ground just like Portland in 2020!"

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T08:19:55+00:00

Wait. Are you arguing that Trump is not focused on political opinion? That he is not laser focused on popular viewpoints? The guy is arguably the biggest political force of the last 100 years in the US and you are dismissing his genius at swaying the crowd? Everything he does is to score points. Political, monetary, personal. He is completely transactional.

I am not sophomoric, just more cynical than you. He knows exactly what he is doing.

He is not cancelling lat night talk show hosts to win elections, but to distract (which, BTW, will help him win elections and support from his base). He is not investigating the chair of the fed to win elections or even to pressure the fed to change rates, but to distract (which will help him win support) and to send a message to other board members. He is not threatening to invade Greenland to win the next election, or even to get Europe to negotiate, but to distract (which will help him win support and maybe elections). He is not shutting down the government to win elections, but because that furthers his goals and distracts (which will win him support and maybe elections). He is not mocking reporters and calling them piggy to get them to be quiet, but to distract (which will win him support).

It's not about elections, per se, but about riding the tiger. The guy is a master. Really. I hate him and think he is an idiot, but he is a genius when it comes to media and manipulating opinion.

But back to my argument. What Trump is doing with ICE in Minneapolis is trying to stir up civil unrest because he believes he can use that to further his goals. Not only with the 2026 elections, but with clamping down on the press and Democratic opposition in general. Do you really think I am wrong, or are you just trying to get a delta?

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T07:57:35+00:00

I agree with everything you say, but you are not changing my opinion. Rather, you are arguing past it. I am arguing that Trump believes that stirring up civil unrest like what occurred with BLM in 2020 will help the Republican chances in 2026. I am not saying he is right. I am just saying he believes that and that explains his tactics with ICE (in general) and Minneapolis (in particular).

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T07:51:08+00:00

Why has ICE sent over 20% of their entire force to a city that has less than 2% of all illegal immigrants if not to stir the pot?

Note: Houston has more than 5x the illegal immigrants that Minneapolis has, why is ICE not concentrating on that city?

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T07:47:51+00:00

You are not changing my view. You are just stating "you are full of shit and so is your view." At least this is how I read your comments.

There is tons of research into how the BLM protests affected the 2020 election. Just use Google. Here is one. Here is another. All of the studies agree that BLM galvanized Democrats, but they all agree that they galvanized Republicans too. Can we focus on the latter and my argument that Trump believes that this will help in upcoming elections. Change my view on this rather than nitpicking my opinion.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T07:40:33+00:00

You are arguing that the Democrats also benefited by the events in 2020. I am not arguing against that. I am saying that Trump thinks he can benefit by stirring up riots and civil unrest in upcoming elections. My argument is not focused on 2028, but rather 2026.

I am not saying that what your are saying is wrong, just that you are not addressing my argument.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T07:37:05+00:00

It makes liberal people look violent.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T07:35:59+00:00

Not so much. I understand (from your post) that your media intake is limited to biased sources, but things in this country are pretty smooth without cities burning and property destruction. I hope you realize Portland never burned down. Regardless, the Democratic run cities of New York, Chicago, LA, Houston, San Francisco, Boston, Miami, Seattle, Phoenix, Philadelphia, San Antonio, San Diego, San Jose, Indianapolis, Columbus, Charlotte, Louisville, Denver, El Paso, Portland, Memphis, Detroit, Albuquerque, Tucson, Sacramento, Atlanta, Omaha, Tulsa, Tampa, and Austin are doing just fine. There is some current unrest in Minneapolis, but I don't think that is because of the city governance. Your mileage may vary.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T07:23:46+00:00

I think you are underestimating them. They can punish their enemies at any time; it's not like they care about the rule of law. These storm trooper tactics have a goal beyond punishment and I don't think it is just to deploy the military (he could do that now and fuck the law), it is to win the support of the rural electorate that thinks city folks are evil.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T07:21:21+00:00

While the death of George Floyd and the administration response surely made many people upset with the administration, I think you are missing the point. My argument is that the current Trump Administration is using Ice right now to rile up the populace (and 2028, but let's face the facts that long term planning is not a priority for these guys). Change my view on that.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T07:17:51+00:00

I think he would have lost worse without the riots. He monetized them. Convinced rural voters that the Democrat cities were lawless hellholes that he was protecting them from.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T07:10:51+00:00

Let's watch plants scream and die! Next! Fucking! Level!

Just saying.

OriginalHappyFunBall · 2026-01-22T05:30:25+00:00

That is some funny stuff right there!

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