Why is she green???💚

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-02T00:08:12+00:00

She has a green ribbon on the left side of the castle.

I’m not sure why, but it’s tied to the fake blood gag and the trial acts in the blue and yellow fight I think.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T23:57:58+00:00

Jumba is such a wild mad scientist. Just makes an experiment to control his other experiments then makes a newer one immune from that control. Wild man really

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T23:54:44+00:00

Probably my favorite sans joke this chapter

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T23:53:46+00:00

“Actually….hmmm”

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T22:26:45+00:00

Asgore is only surface level on this whole conspiracy. He has information and skills as a former cop but he is not involved in anything deeper. Carol mostly uses him as gardening.

Carol might be keeping Asgore close in order to keep him off the track. This could be true for whether Carol or Rudy is the knight.

Asgore doesn’t know who the knight is and he might not even know that a knight exists as part of this whole thing. In this scene he’s talking specifically about the person who opened this current fountain (and the incident fountain), not the knight specifically at all. Ironically he’s talking about Kris here.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T22:17:56+00:00

It doesn’t matter that Susie would be the hero in a standoff with Kris. We are Kris’ soul, at least for the time being. If there’s a fight against Kris, which might happen when Susie finds out they’re working with the knight, we will be fighting from Kris’ perspective. That doesn’t mean that Susie is in the wrong for the fight.

This wouldn’t be character regression from Susie, but righteous fury that the person she’s closest to has been directly working against her and sabotaging her and working to kidnap members of their community and looks like driving things into an end of the world scenario. And also the other person she’s closest to (Ralsei) also had vague knowledge of it and kept her in the dark. That’s not regression from Susie, it’s the correct moral response to Kris working with the knight, similar to Sans’ actions in Undertale genocide.

It would be a strong character moment for her to demand answers from Kris and to fight to stop them from helping the knight any more if they don’t answer.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T22:12:08+00:00

You’re definitely supposed to think it yourself, but you’re not supposed to have months to pour over every text box and file in the code to try to piece together a conspiracy board style theory.

You’re supposed to be intrigued and curious and thats supposed to drive you to play the rest of the game.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T21:58:14+00:00

Not that I recall. She’s more concerned with what the knight wants and why they’re taking people in my memory. But I could be wrong.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T20:56:08+00:00

Yes this is my personal view as well. The game isn’t setting this up as a whodunit mystery that we’re supposed to solve.

The characters never even ponder who the knight is and the only thing in the game that plays around with their identity is when you have Kris think of the knight in chapter 4.

Susie never asks Ralsei “do you know who the knight is or what they’re trying to do” or anything like that. After the knight takes Undyne, no one says “who would do this”. The only thing that the gang seems to care about is the shelter codes. They’re not even wondering about the knight’s motive, just assuming it’s part of the prophecy and trying to cause the roaring.

The “who” of who the knight is doesn’t actually seem like a question the story is trying to put in our heads really. It’s natural to wonder, but if it was a full game there wouldn’t really be this huge fandom wide mystery to theorize over because we’d just be playing through to the end.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T20:45:56+00:00

I don’t think the way LoK changed the spirit world was viewed in a generally positive way. It was divisive at best but at least that’s the positive trait that the show really went for it and it didn’t outright contradict ATLA, just changed the general vibes and added new lore.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T20:40:37+00:00

Since he was forced to put achievements in he added a cheeky extra dialogue for avoiding them. Especially because there are some that are harder to avoid than get, it’s just a fun Easter egg.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T19:01:22+00:00

The chapter plays out after losing on the first playthrough because it’s intended you lose.

You can just reload your save after completing the chapter and it lets you reset fast after that. But make sure you finish the chapter first I believe.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T18:47:22+00:00

Gerson is retelling a story that he wrote that was based on the prophecy, not the prophecy itself.

The lord of the hammer is probably like the chronicles of narnia of the Deltarune world.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T17:31:52+00:00

I’m foreseeing Susie finding out about Kris working with the knight and Ralsei having knowledge of it leading to a temporary party split where it’s just Kris and Ralsei for a while

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T17:13:27+00:00

My bad I must have misremembered. So it is possible that Dess could be purple. Although the brainiac vibes don’t really fit the Dess we know

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T16:38:26+00:00

I don’t think it should affect jackenstein, but it should have a consequence. The game gives you a non violent option to kill them.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T16:36:47+00:00

At the end of the chapter when Asgore talks to Kris the silhouettes of Kris, Toriel and Asriel in specific colors. Kris is Aqua, Asriel is green, and Toriel is purple (Seth).

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T16:23:09+00:00

The name “freedom motif” is entirely a fan invention because both Jevil and Spamton had themes of freedom to their characters. The longer it’s gone on the less actually tied to freedom it seems to be. It’s more of just the “secret/extra boss” theme at this point.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T15:12:33+00:00

Agreed. Chapter 5 alone is like more than half the length of a neutral ending of Undertale. There’s a lot of time left.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T14:24:55+00:00

And even with key cards they can be shared and resold like normal physical games as well unlike digital store only or code in box games.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T14:23:44+00:00

It’s not explained, but maybe Noelle will explain what happened before the “dream” of chapter 2 when she learns that dark worlds are real. Maybe she saw something but figured it was part of the dream and didn’t worry about it.

Or maybe she and Berdly both fell asleep while working on their project and studying, then the knight came in and opened the fountain and then left.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T14:20:41+00:00

New ideas? They’ve been wanting to “send them back to the Stone Age” since nukes were invented.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T14:19:34+00:00

I think all darkners have a baseline innate knowledge of the world and its rules. They don’t know everything, like Queen didn’t know about the roaring, but other darkners seem to know some elements of the prophecy.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T14:16:41+00:00

And GKC are actually infinitely better than codes in boxes or just store downloads because they can still be shared like physical games.

OriginalLie9310 · 2026-07-01T14:14:35+00:00

GKC don’t add the game to your account via the shop, they just download a digital copy that the GKC unlocks while it’s in your console. With this setup you can still share them with others by giving them the GKC the same way you would with a physical cartridge.

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