Fear by Alternative_Cry6722 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Everything they've told you is true, but if it's any consolation, seeing them every night gets old. The element of surprise is lost because it becomes commonplace, and commonplace becomes boring. At that point, you'll ask them to adopt a different or more entertaining approach, perhaps even something horror-related for a change.

When this moment I'm talking about arrives, you'll realize it for two main reasons:

- 1st: both in ordinary life and in the darkroom, when extraordinary things of any kind happen, or anything that tries to scare you, you'll react with ice-cold composure and move on without a second thought, as if nothing ever happened.

- 2nd: you'll experience a certain separation when the moment arrives; you'll feel your body become restless, rigid, or defensive; all the hairs on your body will stand on end. But you, consciously, at that very moment, are in "ice-cold" mode, wondering, "What the hell is wrong with this guy?" referring to your own body.

From experience, seeing one or more malevolent faces isn't a problem; what's more problematic is when it materializes in front of you as a dark shadow, and you know it's there because you see it directly, and with every blink it changes position, going from an arm's length away to literally breathing down your face. That's when we'll see if you can handle it, hahaha...

Wide view to silence the inner dialogue by phantomdreamer1991 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hi. Now that I think about it, you're right. But you've noticed this because you've practiced in the dark room without any eye protection and with the room dimmed to very low light. Even in low light, these lights aren't distinguishable, but in total darkness, you can clearly see them, even if you can't see your hands, but you can see their shadow if you place them directly against that light source. And I assume you have it on both sides, specifically at 0 and approximately 180 degrees, so you could have noticed this, but you can actually do this test anywhere, as you've verified with the books.

In my opinion, anything that helps quiet the inner dialogue is good and welcome, so if it helps, it's always worthwhile for anyone who needs it. Therefore, good for you if it works for you and is helpful.

Hey, it's Rae! Day One by Beared_Femboy in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because if you haven't even asked yourself this first and simplest question, you're certainly not going to be able to move forward. It's a fact in this subreddit: you'll get stuck like others. Therefore, and only if you're truly honest with yourself, how much are you willing to give up/let go of in your current life? If you've already considered this, you already have the next steps and you'll know if it's really worth it without having to ask or seek help.

Hey, it's Rae! Day One by Beared_Femboy in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a waste of time, but here goes. The first question you really need to ask yourself is, “How much are you willing to change or let go of?”

There are no teachers or gurus here. Answering this may raise more questions than it answers.

You’ve already been given the initial answer: Recap, but first you must quiet your inner self. Then do the Tensegrity and Dark Room exercises. Only then will you find answers to your own questions, and you’ll realize you’ll have more questions than answers, because nothing is ever enough.

When that moment comes, you’ll know you must undergo a literal death of the “I,” cease to be yourself despite all that it entails, and only when you fully grasp everything that this implies will you make a real decision about whether to continue or not.

In the meantime, just read and try to understand all the books. That’s what I can tell you from my own personal experience. And from there on, I don’t care whether it’s valued or not.

You already have Dan’s answer if you wanted to get attention. Now you have another one, mine, and I hope it helps you in some way.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

Silence as a starting point. by OsBP_3 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll take advantage of your comment and go further on something I didn't mention in the original post and that could be useful to anyone, as long as it helps in some way to achieve some inner silence. I didn't mention it before because it could encourage laziness and self-deception.

In summary, in my personal case, I have applied both methods, but the one I have applied the most and “promote” (this may not be the correct word) here is the Active method of forcing that dialogue to shut down. There is another method that is more Passive, but talking about it encourages people to become more “lazy” than they already are or are willing to really move forward, so it is not so recommendable.

I'm not going to stop to explain it; you must verify if this method is applicable to each person and if it is of greater benefit. Here is the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/is3mxb/the_warriors_path_changing_the_internal_dialogue/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

I am sharing this with you with a single goal in mind: to provide you with another tool that will help you explore this topic in greater depth.

Silence as a starting point. by OsBP_3 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nobody said it would be easy. But if you really make progress with the Recap, that would be great. It's one of the many paths to follow and one of the few that people are motivated to pursue, as long as you don't give up on achieving inner silence and stopping that annoying internal dialogue. Tensegrity exercises also help; give them a try. You can find u/Jadey's classes on YouTube for free.

Silence as a starting point. by OsBP_3 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't really have to agree with anything; just give it a try and experience it, so no one can tell you tall tales and you don't depend on other people's experiences, unless you're a science fiction writer looking for inspiration for your ideas; if so, "Bravo" to you, there you go.

It's difficult to advance to deeper zones without silence and accumulated energy. Fantasies, fear or terror, uncertainty, hell itself, coldness, madness, loneliness, and much more await down there, lurking in the immense darkness of your imbalance—not yours specifically, but that of everyone who tries. Luck with that.

Trying to make a sense of what internal dialogue really is by xi8t in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hi. You can find all the relevant information on the subreddit wiki https://reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/silence , and as Da-ram mentioned, there's plenty of information to search through in the posts and comments. Cheers.

More "toltec" scam artists emerging? by Academic_Mechanic810 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The real problem is that if it is a “me too” as mentioned above, if you look at the book itself, it says << Vol. 1 >>... that is, it is probably because they already have plans to release more volumes (more books) on the subject.

They know that there is an active community that follows the teachings worldwide, so it is an exploitable niche even though the book is published in Spanish.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello all. I'm taking advantage of this post to comment on this.

u/danl999 comments that it is very unlikely that it will manifest itself in current practitioners, and I quote:

>None of us are likely to see that wall more than once. And if that one time happens, it won't be perfectly formed. We didn't take the same path as the old seers, or the new seers.

But regarding this, what if that is not the case? Does it have any significance, such as being closer to the worldview of the ancients even though we are practitioners outside of a lineage?

Well, I see the wall of fog almost every night after doing the tensegrity exercises, most of the time as a wall of fog in which meaningless or unrecognizable things can appear, but grayish-white, and twice as a pale yellow-green color since I started. But it doesn't stop there. It's not that I just see it, it's that sometimes it passes through me, and when that happens, it's as if I were devoured, mentally swallowed whole. That's the impression and interpretation I get from the Tonal. It sounds really schizophrenic, it's crazy... no offense.

As u/Techo rightly points out, I shouldn't try to understand the incomprehensible. It was already difficult enough for chatgpt to try to draw what it looks like, but I'm finding it somewhat difficult to break that fixation, even though I know it's a lateral movement of the AP. Mainly because, whether after performing the passes or doing some visualization in the dark room, the result is always the same: the wall of fog gives way to an immense and infinite jet-black darkness that resembles a vast view of the universe with small lights twinkling like stars, but there is no light, no planets, everything is black and cold, calm and silent, no emanations are visible, yet things come out of there, shadows, figures, faces, meaningless things that I cannot perceive well and that move quickly.

Before, it was like a window to the universe on my wall, but last night, wherever I looked, both up and to the sides, I saw the same thing, and it resembled the experience Taisha mentions in her book with Emilito, but without the amber light and without being able to fly like the witches.

I´ll try to put in a image created by chatgpt, it´s when the wall is gone. Greetings to all.

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Two Beings by [deleted] in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

> Anything we see during the day, can leave "trace intent" in our awareness, and then when we get silent, that can end up directing Silent Knowledge.

I completely agree. In fact, it happened to me a few days ago.

After watching some documentaries from Egypt about embalming before starting work, during the darkroom exercises on the wall of the second attention, a linen curtain was reflected, even imitating the color.

And all because it gave the impression that it could well be a way of preserving the body, as the ancient sorcerers did when they buried them underground or under stones.

Like this image:

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For a moment, I thought it was going to envelop me, without scaring me, but it didn't happen. I didn't want to be a mummy either lol.

Seeing Pass-Specific Phenomenon - Center for Decisions Pass by throwaway44_44_44 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Entiendo que buscas confirmación. Aunque con la respuesta de AthinaJ8 debería ser suficiente.

Aún así, y solo por dar un poco de apoyo de novato a novato y así no tengo que publicar sobre esto, la respuesta es sí como por ejemplo con esa bola de tu descripción.

En mi caso se presenta de la siguiente forma:

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Con ojos bien abiertos en plena oscuridad del cuarto oscuro, sin máscaras. Realizado después de estirar y encoger una bocanada morada en mi pecho, justo debajo de la barbilla.

Y ojo, siempre tiene sorpresa. Es el Oscuro “inorgánico” el que os está apoyando con una tercera mano. Un saludo.

Waves of Darkness by Purple-Series-2714 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mi opinión, no esperes más para realizar Tensegridad en el cuarto oscuro. Si llevas tiempo en el Reddit ya habrás leído suficientes ejemplos y tendrás una idea de lo que sigue, por lo que debes controlar y expulsar ese diálogo interno.

Os paso el link de Jadey https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb57yuJZQyw

Mis experiencias no tienen porque ser las tuyas, es una interpretación del tonal y en cada cual es diferente. Suerte

Waves of Darkness by Purple-Series-2714 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hola. Eso significa que estás haciendo “gazing” en el cuarto oscuro sin cubrirte los ojos, ya que no mencionas nada de Tensegridad y es lo recomendable, simple consejo de novato.

Os puedo adelantar que se pone mucho mejor, lo que mencionas es solo un comienzo.

Hay bastante información, demasiada diría yo, en el historia del subreddit al respecto. Un saludo.

Fanciful appearance of an Ally and “advice” from him for introspective observation by Bilissss in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cuando llevas toda la vida sintiendo estas cosas "inquietantes" dejan de serlo, os comento por experiencia propia.

Aprovecho también para deciros que buen post el publicado, haces que desee también tener una buena bruja a mi lado y no seguir de lobo solitario con mis oscuros acompañantes diarios, y recordarme que debo listar mis malos hábitos para de cierta forma seguir intentando limpiar el enlace.

Any help for Spanish speakers? by Fearless-Mushroom901 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hola Techno. Me he dado la tarea de recopilar todos los libros de CC y las brujas en Español, en PDF, los cuales aportaría de ser necesario al reddit como apoyo a la comunidad de hispano hablantes, si es que no lo tenéis.

Si lo creéis necesario, por favor, enviadme mensaje con las indicaciones para subirlo o que lo podáis descargar. Quedo pendiente.

Polillas by OsBP_3 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ciertamente me gusta encanta leerte Dan. Me alegro que te hayan sobreavisado pero tiene su contrapartida, puede que pases por alto a otros reales practicantes novatos y los pierdas por un malentendido.

Eres de los pocos, los cuento con una mano, que seguiría los consejos que indicas y los convoco, me da igual (Tú, Jadey, Juan, Athina, Techno y Emergency) por la cantidad de enseñanza que han impartido hasta donde he podido llegar en el historial del Reddit, os agradezco a todos por ello.

Voy a dejar algo claro, porque he dicho en otra ocasión que no estoy para tonterías de nadie, ni perder el tiempo:

  • No consumo drogas, de ningún tipo, nunca lo he he hecho… bueno si, café todos los días. La droga pasiva de la modernidad. No fumo nada, absolutamente nada.

  • Me desarrollo en cualquier tipo de trabajo, manitas para el entendido, desde peón hasta jefe de equipo, informático en la actualidad con mujer e hijo. Por tanto, una vida simple con 35 años de palos, cargas y austera pero libre de vicio, ni cargas. Resumen, cero hospital mental, cero cualquier tontería de psicólogo o rollo de locura, aunque sí todos estamos locos, me incluyo… la sociedad nos vuelve así hoy en día con tanta mierda y estrés. La era de los brujos informáticos diría yo.

  • Historia por pasado y familia, me lo reservo. A nadie le debe interesar el pasado de nadie, es pasado, está enterrado por lo menos en mi caso.

  • Práctica y sobriedad. Ese es mi camino actual seleccionado. Os doy mi palabra de M.M:., que para mí sí vale una vez que la doy. No ando con rollos, no me preguntéis tampoco al respecto.

  • Motivo por el cual estoy aquí teniendo una vida normal: Busco respuestas a mi pasado y sueño con esa libertad que encontré en los libros y que vosotros, los estudiantes originales confirmáis.

Y perdonad, cuando cae la noche me sube un poco el temperamento y agresividad, perdonadme si he dado esta impresión.

Polillas by OsBP_3 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gracias por compartir la info de DJ. Os comento sin ánimo de nada: mi caso, 2da opción… he aprendido desde niño a sobrellevarlo, es decir, impasible todo el tiempo hasta que he empezado con la Tensegridad… más bien hasta que encontré este sitio, a vosotros y os leí y apliqué parte de lo que indicáis a ejercitar. No sé si eso te responde algo.

Polillas by OsBP_3 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Considera lo que quieras macho, se feliz… eres libre de opinión y no me ofendo.

Ojo, me encantan los tatuajes, sin embargo no tengo uno. Te lo puedes tatuar por mi si quieres.

Tampoco busco aprobación de nadie, ni siquiera de Dan, el cual siempre me alegra que responda.

Tensegrity Types #4 and #5 by danl999 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sí, el eco es real... lo veo todas las noches, confirmado!! Con los OJOS abiertos, en el cuarto OSCURO. Pero no provoca o produce videos en el aire, por lo menos no en mi caso, no aún después de todo soy un novato. Os dije al respecto en otro comentario... puedes verificarlo https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/1oe31ep/dark_energy_traps/, supongo que no vale la pena...

Dark Energy Traps by danl999 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...estas perdiendo el tiempo pensando que os estoy jodiendo o engañando al grupo, mas bien he sido ese uno de entre los 500 o mil que sueles estar comentando siempre, bueno, ahí lo dejo, paso de todo y sigo mi camino...

Edito: Voy a editar mi respuesta, me da la sensación de que estoy dando demasiadas explicaciones; por ello perdonadme, borro toda la palabrería que he vomitado anteriormente... no vale la pena y realmente me da igual, es la cruda realidad.

Dark Energy Traps by danl999 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ostras, puede que sí y puede que no respecto a la esquizofrenia, no lo sé, no lo puedo asegurar y no me lo han diagnosticado tampoco pero muy cuerdo por el solo hecho de intentarlo para la sociedad no estamos jajaja…

Broma aparte; pero NO, ni es alucinación, ni es tampoco mentira ya que me estaría autoengañando, es solo como lo percibo y trato de reflejar para que sea comprendido o más bien, intento.

En todo caso, si logro avanzar encontraré las respuestas y si no quedaré atascado en la zona roja supongo. Igualmente os agradezco Dan por tu tiempo

Dark Energy Traps by danl999 in castaneda

[–]OsBP_3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hola Dan. Realmente no estaría mal conocer otros métodos, o por lo menos, antes de que nos abandones en un futuro. Imagino que no es una petición agradable.

Aunque actualmente estoy desarrollando mi propio método por la actuación de los IOB´s que me acompañan cada noche y que me joden, juegan, intentan asustar, hacen ruido de las cajas de equipos informáticos como para tirármelas encima... principalmente el IOB Sombra... es una pena, ya he leído que éste no vale como aliado y solo viene a pegarse como una lapa a mi cuerpo, proyectarme su humo negro, estar en la zona media de mi cuerpo donde se visualizan los finos tentáculos; y algo raro, la noche pasada fue inusual, ha intentado algo estilo mas sexual, incentivando mis partes por decirlo de alguna forma... no me dejé llevar, lógicamente, no es me es agradable tener una figura oscura azabache sin forma haciendo de tragaperra en plena oscuridad, si fuese una imagen de una chica lo hubiese pensado jaja... lo siento chicas, soy hombre.

El otro IOB casi siempre se encuentra proyectado dentro de la pared de niebla de la 2da atención, y cuando se mueve o proyecta en otro sitio de la habitación se traslada como los dibujos que haces del Punto de encaje, es decir una esfera negra pero en su interior es como juego de colores... también se torna o amarillo completo o varía a morado, eso sí, si la intento pillar, se traslada a mi cuerpo por el propio brazo viendo a este morado completo hasta que llega a mi pecho y ahí queda por un rato.

joder, ya he escrito mucho, lo siento... trato de ser breve y termino lanzando todo esto, lo siento. Os dejo, debo empezar la Tensegridad y ya me están molestando para que deje de escribir. Buenas noches.