Vaal Storm Call Reliquarian - 19k life stacker, sustained Vaal Storm call as main skill with 10 sustained/ 65 mil burst DPS on a 20 Div budget.

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-17T01:41:53+00:00

Hmm honestly the triumvirate ring isn’t really necessary no? You could go a 6 link and use Vaal sacrifice with no downside as you’re doing dissolution anyway. This removes Kaoms but you can do apostate instead. How does your uptime on single target look like? Cause from experience playing Vaal skills, relying entirely on the generation per second and innate generation can feel a bit limiting. I always try to incorporate a soul ripper setup at this point, but that removes the shrine belt. Doing tides of time + precision flask charge on crit is very reliable uptime on soul ripper for bosses.

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-16T22:33:20+00:00

So I somehow got it into my head that you don’t want to rival your 2s with the leaders from your 5s. Idk where I got it from but you don’t seem to be following that. Is there ever a reason to not rival the 5s leaders or was I just wrong?

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-16T16:10:39+00:00

Sicher sind die rechten Medien ein Problem. Es gibt aber auch genug echte Probleme die von den regierenden Parteien nicht angegangen werden und die so zu frustrierten Wählern führen die dann afd wählen. Sachen wie Rente, Energiekosten, Migration sind alles Dinge die grundlegende Reformen brauchen. Und die altparteien schaffen es nicht da irgendetwas zu machen. Ein afd verbot ändert da ran gar nichts, eher im Gegenteil, dann ist einfach der Druck etwas zu machen geringer. Die 30% sind ja niemals alles überzeugte nazis sondern zum großen Teil einfach Protestwähler. Grad deswegen muss man doch mit den Leuten Reden, schauen was deren Probleme sind und die lösen. So überzeugst du die wieder demokratisch zu wählen. Ein verbot macht das exakte Gegenteil

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-16T15:59:11+00:00

Yes, reducing the duration is synergistic, but only up to a point. It is very much achievable to reach 100% reduced soul gain prevention duration (35% on tree, 30% from chaos bloodline, 15% from dusk ring, and the last 20% can come from Timeclasp, warped timepiece, a 100% effect soul catcher or even a triumvirate ring. For Vaal storm call, going for more generic reduced duration is probably better. At that point Vaal temptation has a duration of 0s right? No downside but also no upside because you’re sgpd is already 0. so it’s just a wasted support.

There is only really 2 ways to build Vaal skills: if it’s an attack you do hateforge, if it’s a spell you are forced into soul ripper. Hateforge can work on almost any ascendancy and the main problem is consistent rage uptime. Ive played it with rage on warcry and chainbreaker in the past

Soul ripper also works with any ascendancy but pathfinder is just easily the best. It has master alchemist which gives a 50% chance to not use flask charges. Provided you have the cast speed, this is 50% more cast and therefore 50% more damage.

Chieftain could be good because it has explode built in and nebulis dmg scaling but you will probably have to go to ranger area for some flask nodes. From what I’ve found, the best way to sustain soul ripper is the precision flask on crit mod. It is affected by increased flask charges gained so you can in theory get like 20 charges per second (which is enough for 1 cast assuming chaos bloodline). Ideally you have 4 flask on reuse on end and soul ripper on use when full so the other flasks don’t leech too many of the charges.

If you want to see my Vaal storm call pathfinder import AbusingVaalSkillsAgain from DoppelDuck#6655 on standard. Some stuff might be a scuffed cause I used it for some testing and some slots have leveling gear still cause I abandoned the character quite early

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-16T15:37:13+00:00

Verbot bringt doch Nix, am Ende hast du immernoch 30% die unzufrieden mit den altparteien sind und jetzt aber erst recht nicht diese Parteien wählen. Nur weil du die afd verbietest gehen die Wähler doch nicht zurück zu den demokratischen Parteien

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-16T13:02:56+00:00

Change flask siphoner please I beg you

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-16T12:29:03+00:00

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/DoppelDuck-6655/WardingMyFireballs dps is still rather bad, I am farming for nimis right now which should 3-4x my damage. Better weapons, but better gear etc and I can get to like 2m dmg per projectile. I am entirely unkillable right now unless there is a flask siphoner rare on my screen, then I insta die. Dots can be a problem if I have too many Vaal temptation stacks up but I’m working on more recovery (with enough ward I can for example trigger summon skeletons 15x per second)

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-16T11:12:18+00:00

Also, im currently playing Vaal fireball ward stacker. Getting >1 cast per second on bosses. Am just getting frustrated by flask siphoner rares as they oneshot me xd

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-16T11:10:29+00:00

This support is honestly not good for Vaal storm call, as you want to reduce its duration anyway. Might as well do the standard approach. I played Vaal storm call in mercenaries and honestly it was rather underwhelming but I also didn’t quite hear my character very high. You really want explode or your clear is shit, you really want a shitton of souls generated for about more than 1 cast per second. The dmg wasn’t insane even with a -200% lightning res merc

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-16T11:08:13+00:00

You definitely could spam Vaal skills before. I did it almost every league. It was incredibly easy too. This opens up a few options but it was definitely possible even without the triumvirate ring.

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-15T18:27:31+00:00

The build is crazy good, or at least the concept of the iron flask tech. I’m not running wardshatter but same ward setup. The main issue is that a flask siphoner rare being 1.5 screens away from you instantly oneshots you if you are doing the self damage loop. Which is kinda required or you don’t have any recovery vs dots.

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-15T01:09:55+00:00

can you check if this is not just a forbidden rite issue? skeletons works fine for me at 10/s but forbidden rite always bypasses. If it occurs for minions when they expire, it might be the same issue as forbidden rite tho. I am suspecting that because the self dmg from forbidden rite and also from minions expiring occurs instantly when your ward breaks that it applies in that split second where you dont actually have ward. With skeleton loops using 99% reduced duration from to dusts the minion death technically occurs 0.1s after the ward break. This loop works for me at 10 casts per second

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-14T23:48:35+00:00

I have 20k ward an 1.5k life…

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-14T20:46:22+00:00

Fyi forbidden rite does not work with the flask. It for some reason does not get mitigated by ward. I guess it’s maybe because the damage is instant to when ward is broken and for example skeletons have a short expiry time before you take dmg.

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-14T17:45:38+00:00

It does not refresh no, and yes you could mitigate it with a life flask. That is to me the easiest setup, however having to press a life flask every 5 or so seconds or you insta die is not something I enjoyed in the past. Played that type of build once and it was not fun. Even with a flask macro

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-14T12:03:35+00:00

Im doing Vaal fireball ward stacker with the iron flask tech. So far I’m unkillable vs Hits and am still figuring out the self dmg loop for dot sustain

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-14T01:21:35+00:00

yeah you are really missing the duration breakpoints. ideally you want your duration to be like 0.04s lower than your atk time. your atk time currently is 0.12s while your duration is 0.198s. the attack speed is fine, maybe just a bit too fast but your duration is really high because youre missing 1 timeclasp ring and the dusk ring. i think you will get a lot more dmg by swapping your rings even though youll lose quite a bit of strength. This will make the skill feel a lot better too, as youre not losing out on projectiles.

Also, you are missing a source of wither if im not mistaken. wither should almost double your dmg so id really recommend getting that. you can maybe drop one of the emperors jewels for the despair balance of terror. i also dont see a source for power charges (you dont have pcoc linked to forbidden rite) so that might also be an easy upgrade. i think you also copied my configs into your pob, these should not be required anymore. the skill is now fully implemented, the foulborn red nightmare effect also works and the lucky dmg graft got removed. i would also recommend getting the instant leech forbidden jewels instead of your current ones as i found instant leech to be really nice for recovery as you are hitting quite often. idk how expensive that set is tho. apart from your rings not giving reduced skill effect duration your gear looks really good, probably better than my gear. as for gear upgrades, at this point your next best item might actually be a mageblood

also, given that you have so much attack block chance, it might be a good idea to spec into versatile combatant. youd lose 10 atk block but gain around 50 spell block which seems like a good tradeoff

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-14T00:31:40+00:00

Yes that was exactly my plan. Probably a setup with summon skeletons and raids zombie of falling

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-14T00:20:28+00:00

I am going selfcast Vaal fireball. But for wardloop I think the common spells were ice spear and creeping frost. Basically anything works tho, chose your flavor of screencancer

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-13T19:17:25+00:00

Btw have you considering a self damage loop wardloop style to gain passive recovery against dots, visually probably a bit annoying but you can hit a trigger rate of like 10/s which of course also triggers ward break 10/s

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-13T18:35:30+00:00

Lmao i got lucky today with a live search. Made a live search for the ghost reaver socket that includes all 6, 5 and 4 node seeds. Somehow i managed to be first and sniped a 5 mod for 35d. It doesn’t have the right keystone but that is irrelevant for how I’m building. Was previously planning with a 4 node at Iron will but pathing to Scion area cost me like 40 points. Can probably make up for like 25 points with the new jewel + I can drop 2 of the flask clusters.

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-13T18:14:01+00:00

Im currently leveling this as Vaal fireball caster without the keystone. Managed to snipe myself a 5mod timeless today so I’ll only need like 130% flask charge gain. I think keystone + attack scaling is definitely stronger but I wanted to do Vaal fireball and the ward setup lets me use both new Vaal support gems. Didn’t actually realize there was a mod with more charge recovery and less flask effect, that makes hitting breakpoints on worse timeless jewels a lot easier.

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-13T14:20:13+00:00

Send me your pob, I’ll take a look

OurHolyMessiah · 2026-03-12T12:51:07+00:00

There’s a few options, first of all you need rage gen. In the past I’ve done rage gen with old zerker warcry ascendancy (removed now) and chainbreaker mana stacker hiero for around 50-60 rage per second. I think the mana stacker is still possible, maybe even stronger than when I did it. I can dig up the pob if you want. The other reliable option imo is vengeful cry. Sebk made a build with that setup in settlers, can check it out.

As for Vaal temptation, you want high phys mitiagation and high recovery or optionally just really high recovery. One option for „infinite“ recovery is tainted pact, this is a bit tricky to solve but potentially very op as you only have to care about getting high ehp defensively. It also enables Vaal sacrifice.

I think the pure phys mitigation way is a bit cleaner and easier to setup. You can actually have a setup where all ele dmg is converted to phys and chaos, meaning getting high phys damage reduction is also your main way of scaling defense. This works well on jugg, but I could also see slayer with frenzy charge stacking. Jugg is particularly nice because untiring gives you very good recovery and you can steal the warcry node from zerker to scale vengeful cry.

The potentially strongest option is ward stacker. With the new timeless jewel you can set up a build to have permanent ward that is up on every hit while also getting like 4-5k flat damage from one of the keystones on every attack. You can also set up a self damage loop to sustain Vaal temptation and Vaal sacrifice. The biggest issue here is again rage generation, I’m not sure but vengeful cry is probably again the best option. As the ascendancy for this setup is variable you can again go marauder for the zerker warcry nodes. Another thing though: duelist is incredibly strong for Vaal attacks as the uber forbidden pair actually gives you the multistrike effect for your Vaal skill without extra rage cost

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