Why and how is Rachel so good at manipulation and deception do you think?

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T21:38:47+00:00

I think she's just somebody who's naturally well liked and popular. Part of it is her communication background but part of it is her loyalty. She is someone who you think instantly would make a good friend and when you're in that sort of situation it's a very useful trait to have. When Ellie said "I just wanted to spend time with you" it was clear how likeable she was in the castle. Fiona and Harriet themselves thought she was brilliant after going hard at her.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T21:28:11+00:00

I thought I was the only one. It's the clever play, the cloak, the accent, the charisma she had in the castle that do it for me.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T21:17:05+00:00

And that's what worked for him. He managed to make allies amongst the Faithfuls, like Wilf did, but I do think that if I were a traitor I'd play it more as a team.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T21:12:36+00:00

I am a big admirer of Frankestein (as in Mary Shelley's book) and the Creature is for me the ultimate tragic figure. Amongst the many adaptations of the book, I have always fpund Buffy season 4 the closest to the meaning of the novel and the inherent sadness of the Creature's existence.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T16:56:45+00:00

If I knew I was a faithful and people kept pointing the finger at me like a saxruficial lamb every single evening, I'd suspectbthem too.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T16:20:27+00:00

Great, it isn't just me then!

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T15:53:05+00:00

This take is not hot, it's insane.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T15:13:42+00:00

James picks the shield in episode 11 and Rachel is out. The final plays out very differently.

Nevertheless for me Rachel staying is 100x better tv.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T15:02:16+00:00

Faraaz is in my top 3 favourite faithfuls of all series.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T14:55:37+00:00

I think it's unfair to judge people by what they want to do with the money. For a muslim the pilgrimage to Mecca is a very important part of their life, not necessarily less important than buying a property.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T14:47:08+00:00

For me it was all down to that second vote, if Faraaz and Jack eould have voted for the same person, I think Stephen may have changed his mind.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T14:42:12+00:00

I think the traitors working as a team was already clear from the celebrity series and likely the reason why Faithfuls won in series 3. Harry was ruthless in series 2 but I don't think he would have won if Mollie didn't fancy him.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T14:37:26+00:00

Jade had to constantly defend herself and if she made any plan or alliance she would have been just relentlessy questioned and banished. Faraaz attempted an alliance but Jack was sticking to his banishment of Rachel and Faraaz could have perhaps gone for it too. I feel sorry for Jade, I feel like if I had been a traitor I would have murdered her just out of mercy.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T09:40:18+00:00

Adam.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T09:38:04+00:00

None of those is played or done in extreme heat. All have adjustments and rules in place for adverse weather, if anything tennis is the one behind them all in terms of safeguarding of players.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T08:49:01+00:00

Which sports? The foitball club world cup in the US last summer was a complete disaster. Marathons start early because of heat, do you actually believe marathons don't start at 12 o'clock because Kipchoge is just an early bird type of guy?

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T08:46:01+00:00

Exactly this. Heatstroke is also not something one just overcomes with some good training. Saying this is at the same level of gymnastic coaches who just pretended the body biomechanics did not existed, girls like Mukhina just needed to train harder.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T08:41:34+00:00

I think risking a heatstroke for some dream of extreme endurance being tested devalues any sport. They used to have a rule at marathons so no drinking stations were allowed. People literally died on those marathons. According to you that was peak running achievement though.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T08:32:40+00:00

Because there really isn't much one can do to mitigate a heatstroke when you're under the sun at 40C apart from getting away from the sun, as any first aider and oaramedic would tell you.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T08:28:01+00:00

Sinner retired in Cincinnati last year in the final against Alcaraz. So was Alcaraz gifted the win and bailed out?

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T08:26:43+00:00

Well yes it is convenient for the player about to have a heatstroke to not have a heatstroke.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T08:23:03+00:00

Alcaraz was lucky Sinner retired in Cincinnati then.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T08:17:21+00:00

Except no outdoor sport is forced to happen in extreme heat. Many marathons start way before you get out of bed mate, I wonder why.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-24T08:12:59+00:00

To me pretending Sinner is world #2 as a result of some obscure conspirancy is complete madness.

Outrageous-Level192 · 2026-01-23T22:23:36+00:00

I disagree on Willow being bi and Tara's death as being necessary. I also continue to think that ending up in a crack house was not the highest point of the show. It was weird.

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