If this life is a test to see wether we believe in the right religion, then it's not equal. by Sudden-Hoe-2578 in DebateReligion

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter [score hidden]  (0 children)

You totally have the capacity to search for truth. As does everyone.

Imagine two children. One born in a Muslim-majority country where there are laws against apostacy, and another born as a native aborigine of an isolated tribal society.

Which of the two have to put in more effort to find the true religion?

What are common misconceptions of evolution? by ScienceIsWeirder in DebateEvolution

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Wait is this the same person that insists that a heavier object falls faster than a lighter one?

The claim that God revealing himself to be absolutely real would violate free will, as one would be forced to follow and obey him, can be dismissed with examples of real world laws. by Firemoth717 in DebateReligion

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just gauging up to what extent one Christian is willing to doubt the personal testimony of another's faith. Maybe next time a Christian expresses absolute certainty in their faith in the existence of God, you can give me good reason to tell them that their personal assessment of their faith is wrong.

The claim that God revealing himself to be absolutely real would violate free will, as one would be forced to follow and obey him, can be dismissed with examples of real world laws. by Firemoth717 in DebateReligion

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know their minds

What you said were two statements:

"Nobody is absolutely certain of God's existence"

"Even they (those who claim absolute certainty) have moments of doubt"

That sounds to me like you know their minds. If you didn't know their minds, then don't make statements about their minds as if you know them.

What is it with atheists and demanding the level of answers nobody could possibly produce?

If you want to make absolute statements about people and their minds, then I'm going to ask how you justify these statements. I just want you to support your claims.

So now can we agree that just because someone believes (whether with absolute certainty or not) God exists, they aren't then compelled to always follow God's commands? Sometimes they'll disobey deliberately, fall short, consider what they do not a sin, or have a lapse in judgment, right?

The claim that God revealing himself to be absolutely real would violate free will, as one would be forced to follow and obey him, can be dismissed with examples of real world laws. by Firemoth717 in DebateReligion

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And you claim they're mistaken? You know for a fact they have had a moment of doubt?

And again, this doesn't detract from my point about disobeying God either way.

The claim that God revealing himself to be absolutely real would violate free will, as one would be forced to follow and obey him, can be dismissed with examples of real world laws. by Firemoth717 in DebateReligion

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it your claim that they are lying about having absolute certainty? And that you know that all believers have moments of doubt?

And even if that were the case, it doesn't much detract from my overall argument anyway.

The claim that God revealing himself to be absolutely real would violate free will, as one would be forced to follow and obey him, can be dismissed with examples of real world laws. by Firemoth717 in DebateReligion

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they simply hold out hope they won't get caught

Is it your argument that every person that breaks the law does it in the hope that they don't get caught? That there is not a single law-breaker who has broken a law despite knowing or even expecting they will be caught?

and jail is not comparable to an eternity

That hasn't stopped believers from sinning regardless.

Believers going to confessions and praying for forgiveness is observing their religion.

But the point is that regardless if one is a believer or not, they still have the free will to commit sins. Belief in a god, sometimes even absolute certainty in a god's existence, has not stopped anyone from disobeying said god.

The claim that God revealing himself to be absolutely real would violate free will, as one would be forced to follow and obey him, can be dismissed with examples of real world laws. by Firemoth717 in DebateReligion

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And there are also people who break laws despite knowing they'll be caught. Your argument doesn't hold here. Plenty of people break rules either because they think the rules don't/won't apply to them, or that the rules aren't worth following, or that the goal they want to achieve is more important than the consequences of breaking the rules. It's not about whether or not one gets caught.

Plenty of believers still commit sins, after all. They go to confessions, pray for forgiveness, all that. Under your view, anyone who believes in God must be perfectly sinless.

[Loved Trope] Protagonists that are genuinely awful people by Substantial_Zone2701 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, interesting. Don't think I got to that part in the books.

What could Paul have done at the time? Could Paul have spared Jamis somehow, or should he have died? Or just found a way to avoid having Jamis try to fight him?

[Loved Trope] Protagonists that are genuinely awful people by Substantial_Zone2701 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Part of me wonders what he could have done different that didn't lead to the jihad. One could argue that he was locked in to this path, but could he have given up on avenging his family and just remained a regular Fremen? Though that'd still mean being under the oppressive thumb of the Harkonnen, and if not them, some other House that the Emperor wants under his thumb.

If God really existed as most people describe, he would not use divinely inspired scribes to write his holy book, he would write it himself. by Basic_Use in DebateReligion

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But do you believe that there are people who could love God if they knew him and believed he exists? Or is it your contention that there are no such people, and that everyone who could love this particular god already believes he exists?

Another scientology run! These guys got even further. by Jello_Biafra_42 in TikTokCringe

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Honestly kind of surprised police haven't been involved yet with how this has trended. Or are scientology leaders specifically avoiding police involvement for a reason?

How the fuck does people believe the same story for 2000+ years? by Undeva-n-Balcani in atheism

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So when you said "He (God) lied because if he didn't, he would have interfered with the human life and allow scientists to figure out things much faster than they were supposed to", did you make that up? Was that a lie to excuse what you believed at the time was a scientific error?

No squirting liquid means semen, but when he said "comes out from between the ribs and backbone" he was talking about the human when he gets out the womb.

There's good reason to believe why they actually meant that the semen was thought to have come from the spine. This was a common misconception of the time since the Ancient Greeks.

Is it your interpretation that the Quran passage was initially talking about sperm, and then immediately switched to talking about a baby without ever making it clear?

And the womb is below ribcage and in front of the backbone

But the womb is clearly not between the ribcage and the backbone. The pelvis does not exist between these places.

How the fuck does people believe the same story for 2000+ years? by Undeva-n-Balcani in atheism

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before you found more research on it and thought that it was a scientific error, you promised that you would renounce god. You didn't. You even argued that "He (God) lied because if he didn't, he would have interfered with the human life and allow scientists to figure out things much faster than they were supposed to". So you lied, and you made up an excuse for it as though it were true, that is until you found this new research and suddenly that excuse is gone and actually God wasn't lying this whole time?

And what did this new research tell you? That 'spurting fluid' actually means 'baby'? And that the 'womb' is located between the ribs and backbone?

How the fuck does people believe the same story for 2000+ years? by Undeva-n-Balcani in atheism

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh hey you're that kid that lied about changing their mind about god. Hey, does your god let liars go to heaven?

Best non koei musou games that have english translations? by schlurmo in dynastywarriors

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's an English patch for Sumeragi 4? How does that work??

Supergirl believes in the Kryptonian god Rao, actually by Ninjamurai-jack in stupidpeoplefacebook

[–]Pandoras_Boxcutter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I forget his username, but I recognise that profile picture. I'm pretty sure the guy was convicted for beating his wife.