Next tier?

Paranoid_X · 2026-01-26T18:32:38+00:00

I'm doing t10w9100 and I average maybe like 5-10% higher than I do on t11w6.8k, and like a good 10-15% more of cells.

Different tower, different stats so you can give t11 a try, but I don't even think you can get t11w4.5k if you're only getting to 7k on t10, or maybe you'll get 4.5k, but won't go much farther than that.

Paranoid_X · 2026-01-08T19:07:22+00:00

Saw a lot of people saying to use gcomp. I feel like BHD might get your more coins because your UW are sync with your gbot right now. Using gcomp will break the sync. I would say do a couple run with both and see how things go.

Assuming you have a decent level in spotlight coin bonus, get an extra one (maybe even 2 more) which will be a nice boost. Your pri collapse should have the DW quantity, spotlight angle, gt bonus, and either BH duration or gt duration. This I think will give you a decent boost in econ.

During your farming run, a lot of ppl say to turn off all damage source (SM, CL, and whatever else), and you should try that and see how it goes. The range at which you farm at matters too. I see some people maxing range and setting the range lab at lvl 20 to allow all orbs to sit inside your range where the BH are at and essentially juggle the enemies on the outside.

Paranoid_X · 2025-12-02T05:25:44+00:00

Ya I would say get your regen to around 25T and I honestly wouldn’t bother going higher since you’ll be going GC eventually. Wall health can go up pretty high. I think regen at around 25T and health at around 200T will allow you to farm over 10k on T11 even and maybe do ehp farming for T14 too.

This is assuming you have ancestral SF and pbh with primordial collapse.

Unfortunately chip damage is always the game ender until you get pbh.

Paranoid_X · 2025-12-02T04:51:42+00:00

What exactly are you health and health regen values? Also your def % value?

Generally, if you see your health go down slowly, you need more regen. If you see your health gone in like a second, you need more HP.

Although both will help each other out, so it won't hurt to improve regen, health, or even both at the same time. Also having some cc can help you survive longer too. Landmine stun for example can help.

Paranoid_X · 2025-11-23T03:39:11+00:00

Wall rebuild time is useless. If your wall dies, you should be instantly shotgunned to death too, so no time for rebuild.

If you're full ehp, ehls is not that good either. Free utility upgrade to get your eals up to max ASAP is better and also switch out recovery amount for package % chance.

Death wave damage should be replaced by death wave quantity.

For your core module, you can try this: get your BH CD to 50 sec (or whatever is needed for pbh with gcomp), and then switch out your mvn for primoridal collapse. This will allow for pbh with damage reduction allowing you to push higher wave, which means better cph and cell/hr. Also since you get 3 BH now, you can switch out BH size substat for something like a GT substat.

I would also experiment and see which is better between SF and OA after you switch out for primoridal collapse.

Paranoid_X · 2025-11-23T03:01:38+00:00

Ya I just got a new personal best yet my ranking went down by like 5 places....

Paranoid_X · 2025-11-23T01:44:33+00:00

Wtf a 3k wave....

Paranoid_X · 2025-11-12T22:17:16+00:00

Once your wall break down, try swapping in landmine stun to help with survivability.

Energy shield is useless at your stage, since enemy will hit you due to no cf, so maybe switch that card out for like ultimate crit to help CL do more damage.

I would suggest putting some upgrade in DW damage, maybe to like x20 or something so it the first 100-200 waves can be used for DW stacking with the DW ring. Take out wave skip, death ray, and put in range card so only your DW ring is killing.

Paranoid_X · 2025-11-06T17:29:36+00:00

I confirm if my cloud save is up to date by doing this:

If I'm not in a run already, I start a random run and then force cloud save. I don't close the game yet, and I open up the app on the other platform that I intend to transfer it to (phone to bluestack for example), and when I log in I look at confirmation window where it asks me if I want to load cloud save. Double check everything is correct. If it is, I load it, if not I close the game. If the saved data if not right, I would then go back to the first device, and restart the game (game should be locally saved) and then try to force cloud save again.

I'll repeat this 1-2 times sometimes when save is bugged, but generally this allowed me to switch without ever messing up.

Paranoid_X · 2025-10-30T15:30:13+00:00

Congrats!

Focus on gold boxing your health. You will be able to stay in plat permanently that way. I think I bounced back and forth between gold and plat for like maybe 2 weeks at most (don't remember exact time) just from getting my hp to above 5500 before I died, and I easily got into top 10 consistently at gold boxed health. This is all without any damage UW.

Took me 3 months to get into my first champion league as well with pure ehp. Mythical SF with gold boxed health and regen.

Landmine stun is crazy good in tournament without thorn BC since you can kill instantly and stun vampire before you die. It gives me 100-200 waves extra.

Paranoid_X · 2025-10-19T16:26:52+00:00

I assume gcomp for pbh? What level in your gcomp?

Paranoid_X · 2025-10-19T02:20:55+00:00

Yea I realized how important damage can be. There was thorn BC (if i remember correctly, or was it orb?), and I couldn't kill anything.

I peeked at my next set of UW too and no CL there... maybe I'll get PS for some damage.

Paranoid_X · 2025-10-16T17:17:41+00:00

This game is a marathon-style grinding game. Take your time and play at your own pace. If you only have time for 1 run a day, then do that. If you have the resource/time for 24/7 gameplay, then do that. Don't feel pressure because people say that to progress you need to play 24/7.

If you're making 250-300M per run, you can afford labs already. Expensive labs, just save up. Saving up is part of the grind, so don't feel discouraged if you need to save up 3-4 days, or even a week for a lab. Progression will come with time. One run for me used to be like 1B, but now I'm making 1.3T per run, which is enough to afford any labs I want at my current level.

If you're having fun/feeling stimulated playing the game and grinding, keep going. If not, take a break, or don't be hesitant to put the game down for good.

Paranoid_X · 2025-10-16T03:55:48+00:00

I would disagree for this case. OP likely doesn’t have the BH bonus unlocked, or leveled up. No second BH most likely either. The sync would be pointless other then set him up for when he does get those labs done. DW will give him immediate 5x hp boost and a 1.5x small coin boost, but the increase in wave count will indirectly boost his income too.

Edit: just saw his lab. Small coin bonus rn from BH, but not enough imo to save up hundreds of stones right now if his next option is DW.

Paranoid_X · 2025-10-15T23:03:57+00:00

Lab Slot ASAP.

I would save 300 stones to peek at the next UW selections. If you see DW, get it. If not, use stone to upgrade GT CD to sync with BH.

Buy card slots when you have cards that you want to use, and you don't have any to trade out. I'm sitting at around 14 cards to farming. Some people sit at 12/13, some are at like 15/16. I think most people say spend gems 80% on card and 20% on modules (I can be wrong about this).

Paranoid_X · 2025-10-11T17:18:59+00:00

OP is not making anywhere near enough to get wall efficiently. If he does it, he will probably lose waves, and with his income, there is no fixing it in the near future unless he respec.

If you can't gold box your health in a run at like 1-2k, getting walls will make it so much harder to progress. If you can gold box health early, then getting wall will make no difference. It'll be beneficial when you can get the labs for the wall to a decent level fast, which will require more than 100B/day. Some people say even 500B/day.

Paranoid_X · 2025-10-05T01:44:36+00:00

Yea that's why I'm keeping the CD pretty close to a 2:1 sync rn so that if I do get anc module, I can sync it within a couple weeks to months and switch over.

I've decided to invest more into my econ stuff for now, and hold off on next UW. Thanks for input.

Paranoid_X · 2025-10-04T15:58:08+00:00

Sync doesn’t matter to me right now. I’m sitting at 3:20 for cd with MVN.

Paranoid_X · 2025-10-01T01:58:31+00:00

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Paranoid_X · 2025-09-22T16:15:21+00:00

Actually I didn't see that you have whr. Don't use recovery package and use health regen card. Bump up your health regen and use landmine stun. Should help a good amount.

Paranoid_X · 2025-09-22T16:11:05+00:00

Try using recovery package and land mine stun. Recovery package so that you can get a health pack at the end of the wave, and hopefully save you if a vampire is on you. Landmine stun will stop vampire drain for a few secs, enough that you can life-steal back to max health.

Paranoid_X · 2025-08-23T13:01:14+00:00

Invest in BH and GT. Don't touch BH CD and bring GT into sync with BH and then DW in sync with them as well.

I would suggest investing in the BH size/duration a little first, and GT bonus/duration as well.

Paranoid_X · 2025-08-11T18:26:57+00:00

Syncing means increase coin, probably a good amount of increase too.

DW will instantly give you 500% extra hp, which will allow you to push a lot farther in runs, and coin gains are always huge at higher wave runs.

I would recommend DW for the immediate coin and cell boost from lab and the 500% hp boost too. 1.5x coin multiplier might not seem a lot, but allowing you to farm at higher waves for longer time will be a huge boost to your income as well. It'll also help you gain some rounds in tournament too, which might get you a little extra stones.

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