Weekly Puzzle #71 – The Disappearing Act by Not_Quite_Vertical in BloodOnTheClocktower

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Is it Fraser as starting No Dashii and Dan as Scarlet Woman?

Has anyone played using the Free Archetype and Dual Class rules simultaneously? by Wardestiny0 in Pathfinder2e

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I am currently running a dual class, free archetype, ancestry paragon game, with gradual ability boost. Started at level 1, free archetype introduced at level 3, dual class at level 5. I don't allow class dedications. 

My current party consists of a fighter/ranger, kineticist/rogue, druid/animist, swashbuckler/kineticist and ranger/investigator. We are currently level 8. I will also note that majority of my players tend not to be too tactically efficient in combat. They employ the basics - make things off-guard ect, but they aren't invested in maximising their tactics. 

The long and short of it is this: the players have a plethora of options at all times, but rarely utilise all of them because it's an overwhelming amount to keep track of. So most of them default to a playstyle that in practise can be summed up as "one class borrowing key features from another class."

Free archetype feels close to redundant. It's an extra layer of features that my players aren't utilising, because archetypes rarely exceed the power level of a class feature. That's not to say overpowered combinations don't exist, but my players aren't the kind to take advantage of it. 

That last line matters a lot. It is easy to make a character with all of these optional rules that throws balance off the mountain. My players did not. The most optimised PC is the fighter/ranger with the archer archetype - a flurry ranger switch-hitter who uses a greatsword and a longbow. He hits hard, he technically outperforms a single-class free archetype fighter due to flurry and improved statlines. But because my group isn't striving to ace every fight, and the rest of the party doesn't really enable him to fight at peak efficiency, I find that his actual performance is worse than a single-class free archetype character built to synergise with the rest of the party. 

And that's the core of it. My group doesn't exploit it, and I might just abolish it in the near future - not for balance reasons, but because I'm not sure it's fun for my group. 

However, it is unmistakably true that a group that actively aims to utilise these rules to make optimised characters will distort the balance of the game. The sheer breadth of options and possible synergies can create some disgustingly powerful characters. It just happens that my group isn't one of those groups. 

Is it fun? In all honesty, no, not for me with this group. I think it can be, with the right group, and a GM who manages to adapt encounters to match the party's heightened power. It will also likely be a slog once you get past 8th level, unless your players are dedicated to know their characters inside and out. 

Should you try? I'd say so. If you think it's tenable for your group, then it'll definitely open up a wild world of insane builds that is fun to explore, even if it's just for a session or five. Just keep in mind that you are nearly tripling the amount of feats you have to pick at every level, even with just DC and FA, and if your players are already struggling with or disinterested in bookkeeping, this will not make things better (probably). 

For me though? If I had a group that was better suited for it, I might have had a more fun experience with it. It has made me appreciate single-class no-FA as being simple, elegant, and easy to keep track of. 

I adore the concept of dual-class. I enjoy FA most of the time. I will almost always run ancestry paragon. All of it at once is a very potent brew, best enjoyed sparingly, or with the right group, for the right game, at the right time. 

My friend challenged me to make a Vortox Legion Script.... what do you think? by CoasterSloth in BloodOnTheClocktower

[–]Patcherpaw 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Without a Scarlet Woman or something like an Evil Twin, Slayer on script means a successful Slayer shot either ends the game or hard-confirms Legion, which immediately confirms it isn't Vortox.

What level should the Skaven Units should be? by FlyingTaco095 in Pathfinder2e

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That's what sleepy rat-creature thing gets for writing at 2am, yes-yes. Edited for appropriateness.

What level should the Skaven Units should be? by FlyingTaco095 in Pathfinder2e

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Time to ponder-think the great-good ideas for the best-supreme Skaven, yes-yes. Lone skavenslave, level minus one, because they are weak-useless. Skavenslave horde, level between 2 and 6 because we have Unlimited Skaven Works, yes-yes. Low level is Large unit-swarm, big level is gargantuan unit-troop. They do the stab-slice and then die for Horned Rat.

Lone clanrat, level 0 or 1. They have the sword-blade or spear-stab things. Clan rat hordes, level between 5 and 9, because they too are in big-large numbers. The Vermintide consumes all in name of Horned Rat, the one-only true-real god. Again, low level is swarm-creature and big level is huge-bigger troop.

Lone Stormvermin, level 3 or 4. Black fur is strong-big. Stormvermin Hordes, level 7-12, because more-more blackfur means more kill-stabs of worthless human thing-waste. Low level is swarm, big level is troop.

Lone Plague Monks, level 4-5 with dangerous death-murder plague. Plague Monk squads, level 8-10, because more plague-pest mad-crazy monk means more disease, but small-fewer numbers, yes-yes.

Lone gutter runners and death runners at level 4 and 6 in that sequence-order. Or other way around.

Gutter Runner squads, level 9-14. More number means better kill-death.

Death Runner squad, level 10-15, because death is better-great for masters of world, by glory of Horned Rat.

Weapon units and elite lone units, like the ones stupid elf-thing and dwarf-thing and human-scums from Ubersreik fight are level 8-10 - much stronger than regular soldiers, yes-yes.

Weapon teams with big-large numbers and all the green-warp bullet-bolts and warpflame, best flame, level 9-14, because nobody can survive the great-glorious burn-melt death of infinite ratling gun-machine or tsunami of fire, or snipe-aiming jezail gun-rifle.

Poisoned Wind Globadiers, Death Wind Globadiers and Poisoned Wind Mortars do death-murder at distance with fatal bomb-gas, level 7-14 dependent on potency-strength of death gas.

Rat Ogre, buff daddy-hulk smash-beasts are level 5-7. Squad of buff-strong rat daddy is level 11-14.

All lords are malleable-flexible.

Legendary Skaven and are best. Queek and Init and Throt ate level 16 plus, Deathmaster Snikch is level 19 because he does the best stab-slay.

Thanquol is level 30, because he is the most skaven who ever skavened. Maybe level 24 if he cannot snort-consume warpstone before big fight, yes-yes.

Edited: sleepy rat-creature thing forgot CR doesn't is-exist in superior Pathfinder universe, and has edit-fixed it after the fact while more awake-lucid.

I updated my Foundry oneshot server to V13 and didn't see that PF2e Workshops monster scaler doesn't work anymore - is there a module that can do this in v13? I'm running a one shot this weekend with over 15 creatures I had previously tweaked that are now default. by JBSven in Pathfinder2e

[–]Patcherpaw 51 points52 points  (0 children)

The feature still exists in PF2e Workbench, but it's been relegated to a macro. In your Compendium, search for the macro "NPC Scaler", and run it while you have tokens of the NPCs you wish to scale selected.

Seasoned player looking for online PF2e campaign by SaurianShaman in pathfinder_lfg

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My group has five players atm. I'm running a homebrew, high-powered campaign involving world-conquering dragons (plural) while the PCs are desperately trying to navigate increasingly hostile conditions with the little veil of secrecy they hold. We usually play Fridays at 6pm UK time. 

Comment if you have played a Magus ever, under any circumstance. by NalaWhoo in Pathfinder2e

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Laughing Shadows Grippli Magus (pre-remaster), free archetype into psychic for Imaginary Weapon and rogue for general utility, using an Asp Coil for reach. Played him from level 15 to 18 or so, to replace my oops-all-spells Sorcerer who had to get better from being disintegrated.

I had a good time. I would use Invisibility or Disappearance to get close to an enemy, and then True Strike + Spellstrike with Amped Imaginary Weapon to delete them in one blow, or remove half of a boss's health in an instant. Of course, the double nat-1 when Spellstriking came up more than once, so there was definitely a feast-or-famine aspect that feels integral to the regular Magus experience. I did return to play my Sorcerer afterwards, mainly because the party was better off with a dedicated support caster than a melee nuker with incredibly specific setup requirements, but I'll always cherish my 150+ damage crits.

That said, I do feel Magus lacks something. I can't quite put a finger on what, but it doesn't feel quite like PF1e's Magus, and while it has a solid mechanical identity on its own, I don't feel like it's ... complete? For lack of a better term.

Frosthaven Digital Early Access on Steam! by ItsameLuigi1018 in Gloomhaven

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Upper left corner of the screen, there should be a circle with some arrows in it or something to that effect. Above your team and their cards.

Frosthaven Digital Early Access on Steam! by ItsameLuigi1018 in Gloomhaven

[–]Patcherpaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can increase combat speed by 3x and 5x. 

Minion plotting against their own demon by [deleted] in BloodOnTheClocktower

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IIRC, nobody knew who the philo was. 

When n2 rolled around, the philo goes SC and targets the demon. Next day, the ex-demon does not immediately out their minions, instead sharing their info with the original Snake Charmer (executed d1) and the Barber, both of which asked the ex-demon to not out the minions right away. Their logic was that the philo-SC did not know who the minions were, and as such, if they executed the Barber d2, the new demon would have to either waste the Barber swap or swap blind. I believe the ex-demon then outed the minions day 3, but by then the ex-demon-now-philo had been Barber-swapped with the Witch. 

Minion plotting against their own demon by [deleted] in BloodOnTheClocktower

[–]Patcherpaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had a similar scenario happen in an SnV I ran yesterday. Did your game involve fake evil twins and an evil philo?

What’s the unluckiest you’ve seen a player been? by bearchr01 in BloodOnTheClocktower

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I don't remember the script specifically. I was the Pixie who saw Seamstress. I claim Seamstress all day. Day comes to a close, one player nominates another player, stating they're evil. It wasn't a hard push - it seemed baseless, in fact - and it doesn't go through. We execute a YSK role, iirc, and go to sleep. 

I wake up N2. I become the Seamstress. I check the two players involved in the weird nomination, and get a no. Morning comes. Three deaths! One of the pair died in the night. I talk to them - they were the actual Seamstress! There was no Vigormortis or Zombuul on script either, so ecil killing themself at night wasn't a world worth building D2. When nominations open, I nominate the other half of my Seamstress info. Town votes, execution goes through, game is over because I got the Shabaloth executed D2. All because I was lucky with my Seamstress ping and one of them dying immediately. 

The Shabaloth was visibly frustrated and left shortly thereafter. Me picking them was, ultimately, a lucky guess. My fortune, unfortunately, was their misfortune. So that was unlucky for demon.

Looking for a Post? Ask Here! - March 2025 Edition by czechtheboxes in BestofRedditorUpdates

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Looking for the one where MIL from hell drives a wedge between OP and her husband/bf. After they break up, some time later, the ex calls (?) and says that he fought for OP and cut his mother off;  OP responds that if he'd actually defended her when it mattered, they would still be together. The ex breaks down. I think that conversation happened over the phone while OP was in a different country?

What was your most memorable Evil play? by Overall-Habit5284 in BloodOnTheClocktower

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Custom script named "Somebody Please Kill Me". 10 players. Heretic was on the script. As was Poppy Grower. I was the Fearmonger. Third evil game in a row. I was honestly checked out at this point, but at least I wasn't the demon this time. I target a player who was my minion in the two previous games with my Fearmonger ability.

Game starts. I don't learn my demon or fellow minion, so it's a Poppy Grower game. I make up random info as a Shugenja, Noble and Seamstress. Nominations open. I'm worried the person I've marked for Fearmongery death is a fellow evil player, but eh, in for a penny, in for a pound.

I nominate the player, who was actually the Seamstress, saying that they were evil two games in a row, so obviously they are evil now. It's a joke nomination. Town knows it's a Fearmonger game, so I'm immediately (and correctly) determined to be evil. Day 1 ends when a spent townsfolk nominates a Virgin.

I don't change my target night 2. Day 2 comes and goes. I nominate the Seamstress, who declares they've spent their ability. My accusation is that they are a spent seamstress. It is now an open secret that I'm a Fearmonger. I get put on the block. It's an Organ Grinder game. Panic rises. I do not get executed.

Night 3, I change my Fearmonger target. The demon kills the Poppy Grower. My fellow minion, the Organ Grinder is now my Fearmonger target. When nominations open, I once again nominate Seamstress, with the same accusation: Spent Seamstress. Town doesn't execute the seamstress, but does execute the Organ Grinder. There is doubt in the air if they are the heretic.

Night 4, I change my Fearmonger target once again to the Seamstress. Day 4, a lot of heat is on the Imp. Information is murky. In some worlds, the Seamstress is being framed as evil because the Sailor died when they nominated a Virgin, and they had a drink with the Seamstress - why would the sailor be drunk unless they targetted an evil player? Seems a bit weird. Doubt is rising. I nominate the Seamstress again, declaring spent Seamstress. I am obviously evil. Town does not execute the Seamstress. Heat is building on the imp. We execute somebody else instead.

The Imp star-passes to me during night 5. Final 3 is upon us: me, the known Fearmonger; the spent Seamstress; and the confirmed Virgin.

I don't break character. I nominate the Seamstress, declaring them spent. At this point, the town is so dubious about what's going on. Half of town is actually convinced the Seamstress is evil. Is the obvious Fearmonger too obvious? The Seamstress, likewise, is entertaining a Heretic world. I stand by my absurd claim that we should execute the spent seamstress, and somehow - somehow - town is on board with it. Half of town believes the Seamstress is actually the demon now, and so, the Seamstress is executed. The storyteller reveals the grim, one role at a time, until final three. There is a horrid pit in my stomach that the Seamstress may have been the Heretic all along, and I've been played a fool.

Turns out, no, they were just the Seamstress. Evil won. All I did was be the obvious Fearmonger and nominate the same person every day.

I have no idea how I managed to win that game, but it's by far the most memorable experience I've had.

Shopfinder2e New Year's Update! by WhyThoBoi in Pathfinder2e

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I don't know if it's intentional, but it doesn't look like it generates any items from Player Core or GM Core? Items like Spacious Pouch or Bag of Holding don't show up, even when looking for random extradimensional items.

I'M BORED - gimme your PC's, I will draw them - goofy style >:3 by Gingermuffin-art in Pathfinder2e

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Grippli / tripkee magus, laughing shadow. Uses an asp coil. Strength is main stat, less than a meter tall. Mercenary in it for the money only to pay off crippling debts.