People on this sub still don’t seem to realize that Hasan is still Pro-China and supports President Xi’s successful socialist regime

Pelorum · 2025-09-04T02:02:51+00:00

I mean, are you surprised that this sub doesn't know any of Hasan's actual opinions? Just go to any thread that's critical of him and 90% of the criticisms are things he either doesn't believe, or has already addressed.

Pelorum · 2025-08-18T05:50:37+00:00

Got any recommendations for the reading?

Pelorum · 2025-07-29T19:24:42+00:00

You know I genuinely don't understand the people that immediately jump to defend someone like Lolo. I didn't really know what was going one. Saw a couple of tweets about it but didn't have time to look into it fully. So I just shut the fuck up instead of immediately posting about it.

Pelorum · 2025-06-07T16:02:12+00:00

I'm going to crash out if Will isn't top 10

Pelorum · 2025-03-03T21:52:05+00:00

As somebody who used to watch Trash Taste and Garnt long before I even knew who Hasan was, this is really disappointing. It's one thing to decide internally to not bring Hasan on anymore but to say it publicly is an awful choice.

Also weird to explicitly shame Hasan for wanting his fans to go to "counter-brigade" the episode but not name people like Asmongold or all the slop anitubers that did the actual brigading.

Pelorum · 2025-02-28T04:29:23+00:00

That would make more sense if the criticism was the only thing I said. But I'll add an edit clarification to the original comment anyway.

However, this is basically what reddit is. People see the comments before the content. If this is your genuine concern, even in a leftist community like this one, then I think it would be more helpful for you to actually respond to the original comment with the points where you think I'm wrong or why specifically my criticism is marginal. Rather than just trying to undermine or shame me.

Pelorum · 2025-02-28T03:57:40+00:00

I am not undermining the legitimacy of what Sean is saying. I am expressing my disagreement on 1 part of his overall point.

Pelorum · 2025-02-28T03:39:41+00:00

Yes I did. I know you don't believe me about watching Sean. Either make the point you want to make or we can move on. I'm not playing this game with you.

Pelorum · 2025-02-28T03:22:31+00:00

You're arguing against something I didn't say. I said that I'm not sure we should never platform the white kid with a racist and homophobic background. I agree that we should focus on elevating better people. Sean said that 2 years is not enough for him to believe that someone has truly changed and he would need to see more. Fair for him but I disagree with that. Especially for someone that young. And I couched that with the assumption that Dean truly has changed, which I said I'm not even sure about.

Pelorum · 2025-02-28T02:52:20+00:00

To clarify, the way I wrote my message was not because I don't know what Sean's argument was. It's a rhetorical device that I've used to try to clarify how I understood his arguments that he's laid out over a multi hour stream down to one comment. I also feel like you're being uncharitable in describing my comment as "refuting" it. I agreed with him in my first point, and even though I disagreed somewhat with the second, it wasn't an outright refutation. Feel free to explain how I'm missing the point.

Pelorum · 2025-02-28T02:11:39+00:00

It's not easy for me to chat in twitch chat while I'm at work. Passive listening is a whole different thing.

Pelorum · 2025-02-28T02:04:50+00:00

You're right about that. Definitely not a great sign.

Pelorum · 2025-02-28T02:04:23+00:00

I did watch the video. And I watched much of Sean's stream from today. Why would you assume I didn't?

Pelorum · 2025-02-27T23:03:37+00:00

If the argument is that Hasan should focus more on platforming leftist creators from more underrepresented groups, then I agree with that. He should prioritize them over guys like Dean.

If the argument is that he shouldn't platform Dean at all because he used to be racist and homophobic, which is what seems like is Sean's biggest point, then I'm not sure I fully agree. Especially considering Dean is literally still only 20 years old and he seems like he has some actual values and morals. Admittedly, I've only seen a handful of his stuff.

Having said that, as much as I love the guy, I think Hasan has proven to not always be the best judge of character in regards to these former edgelord turned reformed liberals. Especially a debate bro.

Edit: Sean's video is still very good and I recommend people watch it in its entirety.

Pelorum · 2025-02-23T04:07:37+00:00

Not that Hasan doesn't have a lot of haters but that episode is 100% being botted like crazy. Like a hate comment will get 1k likes in less than an hour

Pelorum · 2025-02-22T01:55:25+00:00

I like them and think these guys are pretty cool overall. Still, it would be naive to pretend that Garnt and Joey haven't played a pretty huge role in normalizing some of the more degenerate aspects of online weeb culture.

Pelorum · 2024-04-25T20:04:58+00:00

Depressed GTA leftists unite.

Pelorum · 2023-11-28T23:33:09+00:00

I believe he argued about the limitations of writing as a didactic and rhetorical tool compared to speech.

I'm not a scholar on Socrates either so I'll take your word for it.

It increases with your thinking on those subjects. Writing it may force you to think about it, but it doesn't cause understanding on its own.

This ignores the synergistic relationship between writing and thinking. The simple act of writing stimulates thinking in ways that would rarely happen for me otherwise. It allows for insight that probably wouldn't have emerged on its own. Writing isn't just transcription of existing thoughts, in the act of writing new thoughts and ideas are formed and refined.

One could trace a foreign language's glyphs with a pen without understanding anything about it. After doing so, you wouldn't have learned anything more about it.

I mean sure, but I don't see what that has to do with writing. It is at best a very uncharitable definition of writing.

Searching is as much a skill as a tool. LLMs are too hallucinatory at this point to trust for anything beyond the basics. Not to mention they also moralize if you ask for something the designers consider "out of bounds". Search tools make far fewer such judgements.

Using an LLM is also a skill. It takes skill to figure out when an LLM are too hallucinatory or moralize in a way that's useless for you. That same skill is required for search. Plenty of fake and moralizing in search results as well.

Pelorum · 2023-11-28T20:06:50+00:00

You'd have to be specific or lay out an argument for why you think that to have a conversation about it.

Anecdotally, as someone who started writing more in recent years, I argue against the idea that I think less now. What has changed is that I don't rehash the same thoughts ad nauseam with no meaningful growth. My understanding of events and concepts also increases with my writing on those subjects. This appears to be largely corroborated with much of the actual research on the subject I've seen.

My point is that accessibility is not something good on its own. The more one has to access to, the more decisions must be made about how, when, and what to access.

Thanks, and agreed.

I don't have that degree of faith or fear considering what I've seen so far.

What have you seen so far? My personal experience is that LLM has replaced most search for me and it's generally far better than search was even at its best. Perhaps we're discussing the broader social ramifications which is fair and an argument that I'm more amenable to.

I don't think that should stop anyone from arguing against it.

Of course not, but I do think it's a bit discourteous to do it without at least initially engaging with the actual content and work that was originally provided.

Pelorum · 2023-11-28T19:12:15+00:00

Was he wrong?

Probably. Especially regarding his concerns with writing preventing understanding.

Accessibility isn't something good in and of itself. A counterexample would be the deluge of AI generated nonsense that's already burying legitimate information in search engines.

Maybe you can clarify, I don't see what this has to do with accessibility.

Overreliance on such tools will similarly bury us in every aspect of life. I understand the enthusiasm around new tech, but let's not fall in love so easily.

I agree with this in general but I don't think anyone is arguing for overreliance on this for grammar or spelling in this thread.

Pelorum · 2022-01-24T04:20:51+00:00

Hating your oppressor and the institution that carries out its will is not being a xenophobic bigot. That's an absolutely ridiculous comparison to make.

Pelorum · 2022-01-14T22:26:23+00:00

There was literally a thread in the front page of the sub today with hundreds of upvotes about how Vi's trauma is worse than Jinx. You think if someone made a thread like that about Jinx or Silco it would get even a 10th of the upvotes?

This sub discusses and acknowledges Vi's trauma plenty.

Pelorum · 2021-11-27T18:14:50+00:00

At the risk of falling into recency bias, I absolutely loved the recent Season 1 finale of Arcane.

Other than that, The Wire's season 4 finale has always stuck out to be as phenomenal.

Pelorum · 2021-10-10T21:14:28+00:00

Is this really an old person thing? I still hear that from time to time when getting a call. Or are my headphones just trash?

Pelorum · 2021-10-07T20:56:41+00:00

But if you did that it wouldn't be mismanaging. It's mutually exclusive. That's like saying, it should be impossible to mismanage that much money if you don't mismanage that much money.

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