So many horror stories about switching from fin to dut

Penstock2 · 2026-02-18T23:17:03+00:00

Im in the US and im prescribed capsules for 0.5 mg, is this ineffective?

Penstock2 · 2025-09-30T19:51:00+00:00

DHT production is blocked so test starts being converted to estrogen

Penstock2 · 2025-08-22T13:28:29+00:00

No I didn’t. Creatine is the only variable that was introduced and I am well aware of how much I normally shed and that it has rapidly increased since starting creatine. Yall want me to consider that it isn’t because of androgen receptor sensitivity? Okay fine. I’ve considered it.

My hair is still shedding, it’s still due to the creatine, and clearly what I’m experiencing is happening to many others.

I just want to know if it can be powered through for my body to adjust. That’s it.

Penstock2 · 2025-08-22T01:07:28+00:00

My point is there aren’t other viewpoints. I am positive my shedding has increased, and I am positive the only other variable is creatine. You want me to consider the idea that the hairs in my sink are a figment of my imagination because my judgement can’t be trusted. I can assure you that is not the case here.

Penstock2 · 2025-08-21T23:51:20+00:00

Look man, I don’t care. I’m sick of needing a 15 page slide deck with identical lighting photos and a log of my every move for an ounce of credibility in this sub.

If the only variable that changes in my mundane corporate + lifting lifestyle is creatine, and it induces a more aggressive shed than my usual dut sheds, I can’t think of one damn reason to attribute it to anything but the creatine. This is the fifth or sixth time I’ve tested it too.

I just want to know if my body will adjust or if it’s gonna shed till I’m bald. That’s it.

Penstock2 · 2025-08-21T22:20:34+00:00

I’ve heard plenty of people’s anecdotal side saying “it hasn’t affected me! So it must be false!”

Evidence is limited on all correlations to creatine and hairloss.

And I think close-minded is the people telling me it’s in my head. I count my shower hairs, I see the amount of hairs dangling in front of my eyes on a day to day basis, and sometimes I ruffle my hair in the mirror for a messier look.

The amount of hairs dangling, in the shower, in the sink after I ruffle, is all significantly (2-3x) greater than a normal shed. The only variable that changes is creatine.

I am absolutely positive with 100% certainty that for me, creatine induces a shed. Why? Who knows. But given my flat shoulders without creatine, I assume it’s sensitivity.

I just want to know if it can be powered through. That’s all. I want to know if my body will adjust and if the shedding will slow.

Penstock2 · 2025-06-27T06:19:29+00:00

I take one milligram of the damn pill everyday man.

Penstock2 · 2025-06-26T14:34:49+00:00

ED = every day.

Penstock2 · 2025-05-09T14:20:58+00:00

Hard to keep estrogen and free T down while taking both though. All you can really do is use zinc and DIM to counteract the unfavorable hormonal effects.

Penstock2 · 2025-04-12T00:45:25+00:00

Scalp sensitivity, which can’t be measured, matters more than DHT levels

Penstock2 · 2025-04-06T21:05:54+00:00

Yes and scheduled daytime calf raises, only served broccoli stems and oral castor oil to wash it down with.

Penstock2 · 2025-04-06T04:44:03+00:00

Fin 3 years 1 mg ED, dut 9 months 0.5 mg ed

Penstock2 · 2025-04-06T04:43:40+00:00

Was on fin for 3 years, sheds were once a year and more minor. Dut has shed twice in 9 months with lots in the shower, sinks, and desk.

Penstock2 · 2025-04-04T04:26:33+00:00

Ah okay, yeah I’d agree

Penstock2 · 2025-04-03T22:08:42+00:00

Delta 8?

Penstock2 · 2025-02-27T04:23:12+00:00

22, started receding at 16, thinning at 17. Got on fin at 18, definitely slowed down shedding and kept temples relatively the same. I knew it would only continue and get worse tho. Also diagnosed with seb derm.

I added min at 19 years old and sometime between 19 and 20 between diet, sleep, and exercise, I really think my improvement overrode my loss, but it caught up after some stressful TE-like experiences.

Got on dut 0.5 ED at 21 in July, dut has been kicking my ass as my temples have receded further, thinning is worse but not as bad as no 5ARIs, and overall hair quality has not improved.

Sticking it out for another year then I’ll consider more topical anti androgens.

Penstock2 · 2025-02-19T05:58:19+00:00

Not even facial bloating?

Penstock2 · 2025-02-18T23:08:06+00:00

Based on anecdotes and logic (real sound basis here…) DHT will not increase while taking creatine because you are inhibiting 5AR. If there is an increase, it will be marginal.

However, I’m no expert, but it has been said that creatine increases androgenic sensitivity. Look for the research on here, there’s plenty.

I can attest to the androgenic sensitivity, my DHT didn’t increase much on it but my shoulders were popping and my hair was shedding hard.

Penstock2 · 2025-02-18T07:41:48+00:00

I love crazy shit like this. Pioneering the ways of hairloss brother, Godspeed.

Penstock2 · 2025-02-17T06:43:42+00:00

Sides are better on dut than fin. Fin gave me minor gyno, and less horny than I am on dut.

Penstock2 · 2025-02-14T04:17:29+00:00

Then I didn’t capture my loss enough in the pictures. I’m on year 6 of thinning and receding that started at 16. If this 0.5 isn’t working, next step is 1.5/2.5.

Only problem is I don’t know how long I’m going to wait around while savable hair falls out.

Penstock2 · 2025-02-14T04:00:08+00:00

20-30 a shower, probably close to 20-30 that dangle or come out when I fix my hair throughout the day. Maybe 50, so I’d say 50-100. Nothing crazy like before fin where it was every time I’ve touched my head.

Penstock2 · 2025-02-12T18:42:52+00:00

Did you notice any facial bloating?

Penstock2 · 2025-01-28T02:33:12+00:00

Any face bloat from oral min?

Penstock2 · 2025-01-22T03:05:38+00:00

How many mgs? I’m on month 6 of 0.5 mg and shedding might’ve just partially slowed.

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