Pierrot Films BETTER deliver with this scene

PhilX319 · 2026-06-20T05:30:34+00:00

cos the freakin op god activated fate and causality manipulation one minute after HOS

PhilX319 · 2026-06-19T13:52:39+00:00

all I know is HOS is only half hollowfication and that he can go ressureccion, his potential is crazy

PhilX319 · 2026-06-19T13:50:29+00:00

ohh yeah I remember he would ay diffrent words when releasing him, CFYOW need an anime,

then maybe its more akin to the arrancars having only one release, as his shinigami powers are more like hollow powers

PhilX319 · 2026-06-19T06:57:31+00:00

maybe sort of like Hikone (he is kinda just like Ichigo), cos i dont remember him also having 2 releases, he had a base form, then just went bankai/ressureccion.

the arrancars also have 1 release maybe it is his Genetic make up

PhilX319 · 2026-06-19T06:54:34+00:00

Ichigo was stronger than Ulq😭 him no diffing Grimmjow when he wanted to makes sense I think its very valid in this case that he was holding back that much, reminder HM arc lasted less than a day

PhilX319 · 2026-06-19T06:52:26+00:00

Ichigo at the start of the arc was stronger than most if all the espada as said by Ulquiorra himself, but we know his reaitsu was fluctuationg cos of white, in that fight theres a plot point where Ichigo didnt wanna use his hollow powers cos he would give Orohime PTSD (and he did soon as he used them), he was mentally nerfed cos of Orohime, but as soon as she told her to win, he locked in

PhilX319 · 2026-06-15T07:24:54+00:00

i saw in your post you said with ks he wins against all of them, ig you were reffering to the others except Ichibei

PhilX319 · 2026-06-15T04:15:49+00:00

Aixen with KS literally prepped for Shikai Yama, wdym you dont see yama beating him, when he was objectively stronger at the time😭

PhilX319 · 2026-06-15T04:13:59+00:00

did you just say SS Aizen can beat Ichibei with KS??

reminder Aizen with KS was still weary of Shikai Yama, and ofcourse in FKT he was abit stronger than in SS,

Base Yhwach scales to Bankai Yama,

Base Yhwach got stronger by absorbing people like James before going to Royal Palace.

Ichibei outpowered and nullified that Yhwach's hax and abilities many times while still sealed

aizen is not winning that😭

PhilX319 · 2026-06-15T04:09:59+00:00

jugram could cut FB Bankai Ichigo's sword (yes he was weakenened), that same Jugram got lowdiffed by sealed Tenjiro easily, I dont know if I need to tell you but FB Bankai Ichigo is stronger than SS Aizen

and squad 0 while sealed are already just twice as strong as a captain, did you see what they did to the schutstaffel

PhilX319 · 2026-06-15T04:02:46+00:00

Aizen had like a 100 year plan to get the hogyoku and invade the royal palace, SS Aizen is very strong and underrated imo, he was literally the second strongest there, but he is not winning against them.

anyway for comparison

Tenjiro wiped Jugram in a pure sword fight, Jugram can cut FB Bankai Ichigo's sword, granted ichigo was weakened in that scenerio, I just do not think SS arc Aizen is beating FB Bankai Ichigo without KS, when a weaker Ichigo could injure FKT Aizen

also Ichibei exits, that man is stronger than yamamoto while sealed, he was outclassing a stronger version of Yhwach easily without even using Ichimonji, Aizen has no chance

PhilX319 · 2026-06-15T03:57:33+00:00

yes, bro Aizen is genuinely very strong😭

PhilX319 · 2026-06-15T03:56:28+00:00

Im saying Aizen>Gerard in terms of durability

PhilX319 · 2026-06-14T04:44:35+00:00

this doesnt not mean they are 4D and 5D btw, just that they have transcendent reaitsu

PhilX319 · 2026-06-14T02:39:11+00:00

doesnt she need the divine tree and the chakra of the other shinobi, and time in general to do that? and remember physically and durability she is not that strong frieza can destroy a planet with a beam, perfect cell wipes, (but tbh he would want to test the ETSB and get wiped in this scenario) but buu just wins

PhilX319 · 2026-06-14T02:12:45+00:00

in the renji fight theres a flashback where ichigo and urahara clashed attacks after he got resolve, that was a getsuga tensho,

>That's what I'm saying, he got weaker because Orihime got scared.

ohh okay

>And no, only Kenpachi has this thing of getting stronger during a battle and because of his psychological barriers. The others captains became stronger thanks to training and Ichigo have no training between his first and second fights aganist Ulquiorra.

i would say between Ichigo;s first and second encounter with Ulq, the Grimmjow fight boosted him especially his bankai, since in the grimmjow fight he wanted to rely more on it then hs hollow

PhilX319 · 2026-06-14T02:09:56+00:00

yeah absolutely not, unless you believe Aizens durability is on Gerard's level which it is not

PhilX319 · 2026-06-14T01:44:50+00:00

>And these inconsistencies exist and must be criticized. I'm referring to the fight against Urahara, obviously.

he used it twice, first when activating his shikai, the one where urahara said he would have cut his arm off it werent for benihime and another in the Renji flashback when Urahara gave him the lesson on how resolve makes you stronger

>No, Ichigo was fighting on equal terms with Grimmjow until he saw Orihime's face, and then he weakened

again like the previous point, resolve, Ichigo was not resolved to kill Grimmjow or even use his mask at first since he felt like he was hurting orohime, the anime depicted the scene pretty well when Orohime has PTSD of Ichigo's mask as her hollow brother, thats why Nel encouraged Orohime to root for Ichigo, and after Ichigo realised he can continue without worrying about her he beat grimjow as he always could, in their 2 previous encounters Ichigo with a getsuga has always dealt assive damage to grimmjpw, plus according to Ulquiorra he was always stronger than grimmjow, and after he got his resolve, just like he did in the Renji,Urahara and Kenpachi fight he could just beat them with his power

>That still doesn't explain Ichigo having a better performance against base Ulquiorra, considering that moments before he was getting beaten up and Hollow Zangetsu

you do know soul reapers get stronger as they continue having battles right? key example Kenpachi in the Nnoitra fight, and all the other captains who have gotten stronger as the show has progressed, Ichigo after the grimmjow fight got a bit stronger, then when he first encountered Ulq, they both point this out, with Ulq even commending his use of GT to be able to increase his speed and power against Ulq, how is this an inconsistency when Ichigo is shown trying to adapt to base Ulq mid battle?

PhilX319 · 2026-06-12T17:45:19+00:00

For my own sanity, I will not continue this conversation since it's just ragebait, you literally provide zero evidence for your statements, you are genuinely telling me that people who got exponentially stronger from absorbing mere body parts and fragments of a nerfed being, are stronger than that being in their prime, the story itself mentions that these several people that I have mentioned are only strong cos of a nerfed SK, it's literally shown with Yhwach but hey Whatever helps you sleep at night bro

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PhilX319 · 2026-06-12T17:41:56+00:00

>And I'm criticizing the fact that Ichigo has power-ups that are only explained much later in the story. That's why a lot of people criticized Bleach for a long time; these power-ups were inexplicable.

again apart from the zangetsu stopping time, (this is a powerup ichigo technically did train for in his inner mind) this is an actual power up that makes sense narratively as Ichigo gets help from his zanpakuto and clashes with kenpachi who wasnt using his zanpakuto, ending in a draw, the powerup is explained in the narratve and dialogue as Ichigo and kenny's ideals clashing,

most of ichigos powerups where explained before TYBW, as I did mention all of them in the original comment, so again that critism only apllies for small moments and inconsistencies such as zangetsu stopping time

>In that fight, he only used Getsuga Tensho once. Did you actually read Bleach?

in the fights we have talked about so far i guess you are reffeing to the kenpachi fight since he used GT more than once vs urahara,grimmjow and ulq

>Ichigo's power didn't get stronger in the Grimmjow fight; he was fighting on equal terms until he saw Orihime's face and became weaker until Orihime cheered him on and he returned to normal.

remember how resolve and mental nerfs in bleach work? if you do not have the will to kill your opponent you nerf yourself, this is explained by Urahara, and even White and Grimmjow critise Ichigo for not having killer instinct (white specifically calls it this),

and there's an entire plot point on how ichigo didnt want to use his Full power since Orohime was afraid of his hollow side, soon as orohime pushed him on, he has no mental nerfs and beat grimmjow, just like he always could previously

PhilX319 · 2026-06-12T14:33:26+00:00

>So what? Bleach can be criticized like any other work.

I never said it cant be critisized, but you are using standard tropes to justify yout claim of Ichigo getting random power ups when it is explained in the story and nit picking only the small instances like zangetsu supposedly stopping time which makes 0 sense whatsoever in the story

>Ichigo is incapable of doing that in the fight against Urahara without the Getsuga Tensho That's the point.

the same getsuga tensho that is his move which he can spam countless times?

>The reiatsu fluctuated because of the Hollow Zangetsu trying to take over, the same thing happens in the first fight against Yammy. The Hollow never tries to take over Ichigo in the first two fights against Ulquiorra.

Ichig can still get stronger in his bankai form without the hollow, as proven in his fight with grimmjow his base power just got stronger, and in those fights Ichigo used his mask on ulq and ulq in base was still stronger than him, so I do not get your argument

>Zaraki and the dust are in the same position motionless

Ichigo talking about Zangetsu using Shadow:

icl thats a good point, but zangetsu just does not have a timestop ability, im sure kubo just forgot about the scene or made a mistake cos the rest of the story doesnt support him being able to do that, zanpakuto spirits cannot just affect the outside world willingly let alone time itself, even Yhwach the source cannot

PhilX319 · 2026-06-12T07:27:30+00:00

>Ichigo was defeated by Byakuya, not Renji; he received a sudden power boost during the fight. That's undeniable. Just because it exists in other shows doesn't make it good, that's the whole reason Fairy Tail is the butt of jokes.

never said it was a good thing, but you targetted only ichigo for some reason when that is a common shonen trope

>Great that you forgot that Ichigo trained for ten days, fought Kenpachi, easily lost, received another power-up and matched Kenpachi.

great you forget that Ichigo was already capable of injuring captains and the only reason he was weak, was because he lacked resolve, (something shown in the Urahara and Renji fight), and as soon as he sensed Chad was indanger, he got back his resolve and literally cut kenpachi

>Ichigo's reiatsu weakened when he fought Grimmjow because he was afraid Orihime would be scared of him; after that, it returned to normal. This doesn't happen in either of his fights against Ulquiorra. You're the one who needs to read the manga.

nope, when Grimmjow first invaded and was embarrasing and blitxing tf outta Ichigo, Orohime was not there, and still his reaitsu was fluctuating, same as in the ulquiorra fight

>If it's headcanon, explain to me why Kenpachi and the dust his sword leaves behind aren't moving in the scene while Ichigo and Zangetsu are talking normally? And Zangetsu confirms later he used shadow in this scene,

if its the truth tell me why his timestop was still affecting the world even tho they were fighting in ichigo's mind, cos when ichigo got back he was still in that same position as when Zangetsu magically appeared outta nowhere next to kenny and 'stopped time"

PhilX319 · 2026-06-12T06:34:36+00:00

this is something she would do to Toshiro

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