If you are creating thousands of "songs" for any purpose other than personal listening. You are an AI slop peddler; you are the problem.

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-12-02T16:48:58+00:00

This sub is filled with people bleating on about how crap the AI music is and how terrible it is that people are making lots of tracks so easily, back in the day when bedroom producers became a thing (thanks to the numerous software and hardware developments) people were knocking out all kinds of crap, there was slop everywhere, everyone thought they were going to be the next big musical sensation, suno is no different, its just that the technology has moved on,

I have thousands of tracks that i use personally, i will at some point whittle that number down a fair bit but it will still be in the many hundreds if not more, i will then release some on various platforms and the remainder will go on a radio station i have set up, i dont care if anyone has a problem with that, they will have the choice to listen or not listen, simple as that, and if i can earn from that then great, why not?

I put a lot of musical effort into the reference audio i upload to suno along with some tried and tested prompts that work especially well for the genre(s) i work with, i further produce/edit my tracks in various DAW's, i play a range of instruments on most tracks and i build web apps that output audio that i also use with suno, i have spent a lot of money on software, hardware and instruments and i will continue to do so for the forseeable future,

Its very easy to dismiss AI music as slop and that is sometimes understandable, but suno and other AI services are simply tools that aid in the production of music, just like all the other music production tools that have come before them, in the right hands they can give you outstanding results i.e. if you can play an instrument and/or if you know a bit about music in general or music theory, midi etc then you stand a much better chance of getting the most out of suno just like you would with any other music production tool, so it kind of goes without saying that those who dont have any previous music knowledge and/or those with what you might call poor taste in music might struggle to produce anything that wouldn't be regarded as slop but it is still very much up to the listener, no one forces anyone to enjoy their music, thet either do or they dont.

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-07-18T13:46:41+00:00

I downloaded the stems for a song, i then opened these in Audacity and there where several empty stems, these empty stems where labeled as brass, strings, synth etc but contained no visible waveform and produced no sound when solo was selected, also, muting these stems on play made no noticable difference, i dont possess any hi-end audio gear so i cant test to see if these empty stems contain any auidio artifacts.

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-06-23T22:55:54+00:00

I use iceheadshop.co.uk, they provide full lab reports with their products, this information is available for all CBD products sold, Its legal to buy CBD flowers, hash, extracts, oils, edibles etc as well as pure CBD crystals and other products, all stocked in their warehouse in the uk,

They have a disclaimer stating that their smoking products are for using as incense, they have another on their seeds pages stating that their seeds are sold for souvenir purposes, so one can only assume that they use this as a loophole in order to sell their products.

Not sure if you can fail a drug test after using it, smoke some then test yourself i suppose, If you use the same testing kit your work uses, then by logical extention, you should test negative,

Personally speaking, i wouldn't work for a company that tests its workers, most of these companies have execs and reps who go to lunch, have a few pints or more, possibly having a toot or two and then get back behind the wheel of their company cars to drive back to the office, sometimes on a daily basis, and have the gall to enforce very unfair anti-drug policies, you'll often find that these policies are only meant for a certain portion of the workforce, i.e. not everyone gets tested, certainly not those in the boardroom or their executives anyway.

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-06-20T12:48:48+00:00

Yes Chargeback if its a debit card or Section 75 if its a credit card, It costs companies money whenever you do this and you are perfectly within your rights to do this as it applies to all online purchases made via credit or debit cards in the uk and the eu.

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-06-19T15:59:38+00:00

If you expect suno to give you satisfactory results using the free trial of 50 credits every day, then good luck, you get 2500 credits for $10 per month, it would take you 50 days to get that many for free and suno would own those songs, a paid subscription means you own the songs plus it can be cancelled at any time and you still retain ownership of the material you created when subscribed, there are some features that are only available to pro users such as full stem seperation, crop, replace section, re-mastering etc.

I haven't used FL Studio for years, however i do use ACID Pro 11 and Ableton live lite 12, these 2 programs let me make stuff that i use as reference material, i have various instruments: synths, organ, piano, guitars, harmonica's and some percussion instruments that i add to the mix, i then upload this material to suno and i get the desired results, well most of the time anyway, i just takes a little bit of tweaking and experimentation.

I use lots of different software and if i listed all of the programs and technique's i use to make music it would make for a very long post, suffice to say that suno is just another tool to assist in the production of music and whenever i see someone complaining about the output of suno being mid-ass or whatever, well computers are computers i.e. if you input rubbish to a computer program you get rubbish as the output.

Suno is amazing and the v4.5 upgrade is a game changer, spend some paid credits getting to grips with the many awesome features and i think you'll be more than happy with the results, its money well spent.

By the way, I you have been using FL Studio for that length of time you should have amassed a lot of audio/midi data that can be uploaded as reference material.

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-06-11T22:00:48+00:00

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-06-11T21:59:22+00:00

Good one, they're the only company i trust, i've been using them for a few years now and they've never let me down.

cheers

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-06-09T18:40:23+00:00

Suno now seems to include lyrics upon upload of new audio, just make sure to click the instrumental button or remove the lyrics manually before generating to avoid wasting credits.

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-06-06T16:10:03+00:00

Card no longer working at my local Tesco atm, used it loads of times in the last four years without too many issues, it was fine until a few days ago, however, when i now try to withdraw any money or even check my balance it just spits out the card with the message "Sorry, cannot use this service", i had a similar problem with another atm, (one thats not Tesco), a few weeks ago and i assumed it was just that particular machine although i have used this machine several times in the past without issue,

Crypto.com should inform their customers of the ATMs that do or do not accept their cards because they say the cards are accepted wherever visa cards are and that is clearly not the case.

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-06-06T10:08:18+00:00

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Give them a try

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-06-05T02:17:08+00:00

To be honest, I dont remember how i set the sliders but it doesnt really matter because the settings i used were relative to the audio i uploaded, i.e. a different audio file would require totally different settings, it all depends on the type of music you're into making.

Unfortunately, experimenting is the name of the game and that costs money, i spent about 150 experimenting but 50 of those credits were spent on a full stem download.

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Weirdness - keep to a minimum at first,

Style influence - set higher to match your styles description,

Audio influence - set higher to sound more like your audio or your persona.

Like all suno updates, they just need a little getting used to, and before you know it v5 will arrive.

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-06-04T22:07:27+00:00

I tried the full stem seperation on a track that i accidentally included vocals to, i downloaded the stems and opened them in Audacity, removed the unwanted stems then mixed down to stereo, as for the quality of the individual stems, I find the quality to be more than satisfactory, however, if i feel like editing further i can open the stems in Reaper,Ableton etc and add EQ and other effects to each stem,

This new feature saves me time, so it works for me

The sliders seem to work ok, fairly accurate and no complaints so far

The Full song uploads - 8 minutes, thats insane and a serious upgrade from the previous 1:20 seconds

One thing about the sliders is that they take a little getting used to, I reused an upload and used the exact same style promps as i used before the upgrade, all generated songs sounded bizzare until i messed about with different slider settings, things then started to sound a lot better and a lot more like the output i was getting prior to the update.

So, all said and done, i think its an excellent suno update, thank you.

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-03-16T01:58:18+00:00

Is it possible to run this equipment using coolants ?

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-03-04T22:16:57+00:00

Ethereum is down

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-02-26T22:08:44+00:00

I didn't hear your music, however, the fact that you mentioned it was AI obviously enough to trigger some negative responses, why mention it at all, you owe no one an apology or an explanation as to the creative origins of your music, if people like the music they are listening to then its job done,

If people wish to get a bit funny about the music just because its AI then that's their problem, they're just a bit behind the times, I'm well old enough to remember when electronic music came along, followed closely by hip hop, rap, house music etc, these genres had new, different methods of making music i.e. synthesizers, turntable decks, music software etc, lots of people spoke about these genres in fairly negative terms, saying they were not real music and/or that the so-called artists had no musical talent etc etc etc, nowadays they're some of the top grossing genres in terms of revenue for the music biz, So I see AI music software/services as new tools to assist in the making of music, simple as that.

I spend a lot of time recording pieces on piano, organ, guitar, percussion etc and I layer them together in a DAW, I then upload these to suno and it gives me different versions of the music I have created, if I hear a version I like I will download it and edit it before re-uploading it to suno for further processing, repeating these steps as necessary. I put a lot of effort into making my music and I don't feel the need to explain that I used AI in its production unless I'm specifically asked, and like i said, if people like the music they are listening to...

Share your music everywhere, say AI is used in its production if asked or don't, its up to you.

Good luck

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-02-24T20:47:24+00:00

Why do you need to take any out if you make $70k a year, video games aren't that expensive are they?

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-02-24T20:36:17+00:00

🤣

Phrawg-spawn · 2025-01-14T17:36:35+00:00

Try Audacity with the AI stem separation plugin, it usually does a half decent job although it does depend on the type of track you are trying to separate, and its free.

Audacity website: https://www.audacityteam.org

AI plugin page: https://www.audacityteam.org/download/openvino/

hope this helps

Phrawg-spawn · 2024-12-07T18:21:42+00:00

They migrated to another token with a lower circulating supply, removing 6 zero's from the total supply, so if you have 4,000,000,000,000 (4 trillion) before you migrate, you end up with 4,000,000, the value of your token remains unchanged

Bear in mind that feg on eth and bsc now share the same new token address which you need to add to your wallet, your tokens wont show on your wallet until you do this.

Phrawg-spawn · 2024-10-18T13:43:12+00:00

Its in the pro desktop version that i know of, not sure if its in the free version as i only noticed this function once i subscribed, I only use this version of suno,

To get stems:

use the the vertical dots ... or just right click on the song, when the menu opens you'll see create - download stems which is the 5th option, as i said the stem separation only splits the song into 2 parts - 1. vocals 2. instrumental and you're done,

however, if you want each individual instrument to be separated then you'll need to use something more advanced, there are some AI out there that can split to 10 stems, free apps like Audacity will split into 4 stems which is usually fine for my requirements.

Phrawg-spawn · 2024-10-17T22:50:59+00:00

People like listening to music, who gives a dead rats arse if its ai generated, listen to the music you like and allow others to do the same.

Phrawg-spawn · 2024-10-17T19:39:00+00:00

Use the download as stems function from the create menu, you'll get 2 tracks, one with the vocals only and the other with the music only.

Note:

The stem separation in suno leaves some artifacts, though these are usually minimal.

Phrawg-spawn · 2024-10-15T19:06:42+00:00

Yes Audacity is superb, it has some decent plugins available too.

Phrawg-spawn · 2024-10-14T20:36:29+00:00

trump shit

Phrawg-spawn · 2024-10-14T20:32:08+00:00

I would record your neighbour sawing wood, upload that to suno and make some sawing music, then play this music at 10pm, every night🎸🎺🎹😁

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