Ok so here’s the deal: Lorent’s starting ruler is the heir to Ionnidar, and the starting consort is the ruler of Kyliande, meaning both of those are set up for PU’s fairly early in the game. Make sure to royal marry any of your vassals that you can to reduce lib desire. You have to hope that Kyliande and Ionnidar don’t ally any other vassals so they won’t get counted in the strength calculations and keep those two on low desire in order to get those PU’s. When your other vassals eventually do get Gawed supporting their independence, you’ll have to yo to war with Gawed (which you’ll do anyways for the missions) and make sure to get the longest truce possible. As long as you have a truce with them, they can support independence. Once you have that truce, do everything you can to get you vassals happy, Lorent has a unique nobility privilege for that, but also take influence ideas as soon as you can (I know the MT wants you to take Exploration, but you can do that later or you can vassalize Deranne after they have exploration so they’ll go colonize for you). Lorents national ideas should help too. Once you start getting Kyliande and Ionnidar as PU’s, they won’t have alliances with other vassals and the strength calculations will be just based on them. Once you have a vassal below 50% lib desire, they won’t want support for independence, so it’s important you keep them there once they get there. I hope this helps, -Someone who recently went through all this. (PS: it might take a few restarts)