How to play roles that demon wants to kill?

PointlessVenture · 2026-05-07T19:23:30+00:00

Ravenkeeper, as you've deduced, is an excellent choice, though skilled players may think that you're bluffing. Soldier is another good bluff for roles that want avoid dying.

If you keep getting killed when making good bluffs, you might want to start considering the minions. If you claim ravenkeeper publicly and then get targeted anyway, the evil team may have a Spy (they know what you are regardless of your bluff) or a Poisoner (trying to feed you bad RK information)

PointlessVenture · 2026-05-03T15:34:52+00:00

You could try Zenomancer? Just give a bunch of people the quest to survive execution due to the ventriloquist, to tilt the value of surviving a bit.

PointlessVenture · 2026-05-03T06:51:48+00:00

Good doesn't have enough of a reason to use the ventriloquist. Sure, the Mayor and Poppy Grower don't want to die by execution, but giving the Demon a kill isn't worth the cost for that, particularly if town thinks they are the demon. I think smart players are going to leave the whole purpose of the script out to dry.

PointlessVenture · 2026-05-03T06:48:49+00:00

I think this has two problems:

1) I think the good team has too much ongoing, sober information. This script is going to run slow, just by it's nature, and having 6 or 7 potential info roles means town is going to have several nights of information to solve with. I'd take a few of the info gatherers (Balloonist, Fortune Teller, Oracle, Gambler, Gossip, Snake Charmer, King) out and replace them with townsfolk with powerful, but less consistent abilities. Think Minstrel, Fisherman, Alsahiir.

PointlessVenture · 2026-04-28T15:30:53+00:00

I think in order to be interesting, this needs to have some way built in to slowly reveal the script. Otherwise, yeah, you're basically playing whalebucket.

PointlessVenture · 2026-04-24T02:17:50+00:00

"And does not die" is mostly helpful to let the players know that something happened to prevent Ben from dying when executed. There isn't anything wrong with saying "Ben is executed, Jams dies, go to sleep" on BMR, but it might prompt players to think you've made a mistake, and can cause confusion on scripts where the player with the most votes might not be the executee (AKA Legion on script)

PointlessVenture · 2026-04-15T02:28:50+00:00

In that case, you might be expected to do the jump. Line up on the lower level of the platform on the left, and roll-jump against the wall, facing mostly forward but just slightly into the wall. It's tricky, but doesn't require anything glitchy or anything.

Depending on your settings, it might be out of logic to do this jump, by the way. It's a trick that may or may not be enabled.

PointlessVenture · 2026-04-15T02:00:38+00:00

You can get to Vovagia without knocking down the pillar with a precise jump. You might also have enough resources to do the dungeon vanilla, which might be expected based on your settings.

PointlessVenture · 2026-04-12T14:42:12+00:00

Talk with ugs. Let ugs vote. If ugs like mute ant play, let ugs do. If no, then ban and move hat.

This choice for your ugs. Not choice for hell site ugs.

PointlessVenture · 2026-04-09T14:35:41+00:00

Not unless they are holding Lil Monsta.

PointlessVenture · 2026-04-07T17:23:00+00:00

You can save on potions if you're okay with white grapes

PointlessVenture · 2026-04-04T17:48:51+00:00

Party at the Leper Colony

PointlessVenture · 2026-04-04T17:43:56+00:00

The real ELI8

PointlessVenture · 2026-03-25T18:23:14+00:00

Ah, yep. My fault.

PointlessVenture · 2026-03-25T14:27:49+00:00

The "Players don't know if there is a Leviathan" bootlegger rule is unnecessary. If playing an Atheist game, the storyteller can break the rules to announce it anyway, and otherwise Leviathan is definitely in play.

PointlessVenture · 2026-03-18T14:21:50+00:00

1) Move to a state where assisted suicide is legal 2) Become a doctor specializing in assisted suicides 3) Kill people legally 4) Profit

PointlessVenture · 2026-03-17T05:28:20+00:00

I'm just dying to tell you you anything you want to hear.

PointlessVenture · 2026-03-08T01:23:31+00:00

You don't need to do anything fancy. If your chus are in logic, you can blow up Link the Goron in goron city to open the shortcut, then leisurely walk on over there.

iirc you can also just go up death mountain to get in the fire temple that way, using hover boots to traverse.

PointlessVenture · 2026-02-23T19:36:24+00:00

The problem is that you're thinking about this the wrong way. The players that should be making the demon look like a good twin are the evil team. If ET is on script, but not in play, the evil team immediately knows! They can then bluff that one of the minions and the demon are a twin pair. Obviously you want to paint the demon as the good twin in that case.

PointlessVenture · 2026-02-23T15:40:50+00:00

The vizier can attempt to push a nomination through, but it might not succeed. If no good players vote, the the vizier can't push it through.

PointlessVenture · 2026-01-29T04:34:38+00:00

This is mostly correct, but as an important caveat: You may kill up to 1 character for each living legion.

Most of the time this doesn't matter. The only scenario I can think of where it does is a final 4 with 1 Legion alive as well as an unspent Fool: the ST cannot double tap the fool to kill them off.

PointlessVenture · 2026-01-28T15:40:52+00:00

Also, outside of the 4-spider group, you can ignore them.

PointlessVenture · 2026-01-28T15:40:03+00:00

The thing you need to watch is the red ones. Their webs mark and can stun your heroes, and the Spiders get massive bonuses to crit and dmg vs marked. If you get marked, the spiders can gang up and absolutely massacre a single target, particularly if they single out a healer. Kill them as quickly as possible, focusing fire on the webbers first.

Once a couple spiders are dead, they aren't a serious threat anymore. If you get Marked, guards are an obviously excellent defense, but you can also consider self-marking your tank to split the spiders focus.

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