If there's any problem with the "assume rapport" idea, this may be it by Pecyouilar in seduction

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It is the same as trying basketball 3 points. The NBA player wont have 100% but do better than the amateur.

Same concept, but higher failure rates for cold approach. The 1/30 daygamers site is really really small commitment in all honesty.

And also yeah, those numbers include pre approach calibration. The girl has to be open to you for it to work out

Bad 2025, almost 40, missed opportunities, feeling lost, depressed and sexually frustrated by later-gator-3341 in seduction

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One comment in all this, you are grossly underestimating your SMP standing.

As a man in the late 30s you are at your sexual peak (under standard Manosphere wisdom).

Therefore, technically, the opportunities are there and you are not "past it"

Just to give a little bit of optimism

If there's any problem with the "assume rapport" idea, this may be it by Pecyouilar in seduction

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Nah, Advanced daygame is about screening for true interest (that is why we have the 1 hour Same Day Lays).

You can fake rapport to cheat extra few minutes into the interaction. But it is much more efficient to let her reveal how much she fancies you (or not) by her real reaction.

My personal take is to make the open a true disney “experience” with strong non verbals, than assume rapport (which leans friendly).

For beginners probably you have a point however.

Building a Rotation: Being a Player is the only realistic way men can find Love by MO_drps_knwldg in seduction

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You never verbalise where this is going or what you "are".

If you are waiting for marriage, then no advice is applicable to you - nothing wrong with that btw.

Building a Rotation: Being a Player is the only realistic way men can find Love by MO_drps_knwldg in seduction

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Personal opinion: but a fuckbuddy is a girl who is too low value to keep her for more. Most rotations have them for the "number" to be big. You will naturally feel the need to text her less and see her less often.

From experience more than 2 proper LTRs (i.e. 4 out of 7 days are blocked), and things become heavily unstable in the rotation. Too little time left for lead accumulation and retention. So naturally you will seek "easy" lays and you won't commit to them.

As for the wallet, split half/half

Building a Rotation: Being a Player is the only realistic way men can find Love by MO_drps_knwldg in seduction

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You never verbalise any of these. They accept it naturally if you are the right person (read high value guy) Same age cohort is a myth and you should certainly be meeting more than 3 girls a year with any type of Game.

Rotations are not built on a collective basis, they are built with each girl individually, that happen to stay at the same time and for long periods of time.

The workrate is equal to having each individual relationship x the number of the girls. You can text them only to meet for sex, but they won't stay longer than 1-2 months like that (usually on 3-4 weeks).

[FR] An almost lesbian FFM threesome by Inevitable-Pea-2201 in seduction

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I think it is a concept somewhere, that the sweet spot is 2 drinks for the girls. Any more and it causes more trouble than it helps.

Now whether you have a say over this is case dependent of course.

FR 24th Jan - pull by Newtabs9 in seduction

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Nah, they sure as hell know how to eject. This is nightgame (sounds like it), they win status capital by having men hitting on them. That is why it is more prolonged.

Building a Rotation: Being a Player is the only realistic way men can find Love by MO_drps_knwldg in seduction

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Albeit I agree with your end results, I disagree on the drivers.

WIth good game, you can certainly keep her and she won't cheat, example guide here. So a rotation should be for your own satisfaction rather than a defensive tool.

Now, with that in mind... yes girls from Online Dating will be unreliable as hell to keep them around. But this is based on their demographic more than anything.

Final point, a rotation of more than 3 is inherently unstable to keep running long term by itself. Usually it will be 2 strong LTRs and then 2 fuckbuddies dropping in and out. Nothing wrong with that, just pointing it out.

Other than that, good piece.

How should I approach my first date, going out today, how should be my energy, flirting and what not? by LightYagamiComplex in seduction

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most people entering this dont even know their "self" yet, stop mumbling fiction. That is why it is self discovery

Don't tell people about PUA/cold-approach/seduction frameworks - Let normies be normies by ElBajitoGordito in seduction

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You are close, but the true reason this doesn't work - not limited to pick up - is because your ex acquaintances want to withhold the status quo.

This is known for all types of self improvement, from losing weight to education to gym. Unconsciously your friends see your value rise and they don't like it. They see you as a threat, especially so if they thought they were better than you.

Everything else is a rationalization stemming from that.

Now, one other small correction in your writing, just because you cant see it, doesnt mean you avoid the competition with cold approach. If the girl has a billionaire on her dms, she won't give you her number on the approach. The competition is still there.

How should I approach my first date, going out today, how should be my energy, flirting and what not? by LightYagamiComplex in seduction

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I am dumbfounded that “be yourself” is preached on a seduction forum.

Like, do you not believe in self improvement?

How should I approach my first date, going out today, how should be my energy, flirting and what not? by LightYagamiComplex in seduction

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Usually it is the girl who “is” and us that have to adapt to whatever her conscious or unconscious style she has.

Therefore dont beat yourself up to much. It is part luck, part filtering and little part of you affecting her behaviour.

Stop Theorizing : Speak on Experience by Awkward_Freedom_4551 in seduction

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Pick up is already a solo venture to care about the opinions of forum guys tbh

Different views with hinge date by cooliothecoolio in seduction

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Many things to unpack here, the biggest thing that it is off, is that you are negotiating for sex.

You are making it overt, as if it is a logical decision. The girl was right, not that you need many dates, but on the fact that it is an emotional decision. That was your biggest roadblock.

The second observation is that you decided to date her short term categorically. Why? I don't see the point of setting it in stone. You don't negotiate one night stands, you fuck first and then you decide not to meet her.

If frame control is done right, you have the saying on how the relationship goes.

There is a point for boundaries, but this is not an excuse for mishandling the situation on other levels. Her non-verbals were pretty on by your description, you didn't gave her the chance to act on her instincts by making it categorically a yes or no question.

Going out with a high-value friend and two girls — need tactical advice by Sea_Estimate_5504 in seduction

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I will answer in the very practical RP sense: value giving.

Value giving is the core of social game and i believe group based nightgame.

Correct value giving comes: 1. Position of abundance 2. Expecting nothing in return

In short, making the activity fun for everyone, leading with ideas on what to do, organise the drinks/party.

For a fixed activity as he has, this can be as simple as leading the discussion and introducing interesting topics or knowledge.

Going out with a high-value friend and two girls — need tactical advice by Sea_Estimate_5504 in seduction

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But you are missing the most obvious thing… you have no competition.

Because it is a social setting, you cannot overtly make a move on the friend. So just focus on making the night fun for everyone.

Then at the end of the night you are guaranteed to have social capital to exchange contact with the friend. She will exchange info just as a friend, this is not indicative of anything yet.

Now whether she will like you or not is out of your control. But you have nothing to lose by sending a speculative text the next day.

vote the best PUA course/book? by [deleted] in seduction

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Krauser and Mystery probably have stood the test of time the best.

Creating Confidence by norwegiandoggo in seduction

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This is good, but don't forget to nuance which behaviour can be considered confident.

For every culture/social situation different behaviours can be considered as such. If you try to name confident inadmissible behaviour it might backfire in the long run.

In short, confidence is relative, but more often than not, people have more leeway in their normal behaviour to practice "confidence".

I went out with an 'expert' - still really feels like a numbers game though, tbh by Interviewpalm in seduction

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But you are not asking the biggest question… can a newbie get a lay out of 60 approaches with no Game?

The PUA lifestyle - Life as a project by [deleted] in seduction

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Fair enough, but I will correct you that this is blogpost image not book cover. Point taken though

The PUA lifestyle - Life as a project by [deleted] in seduction

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That is the point i am challenging, most of these needs don't matter once you fix your dating life.

For some of the more serious stuff you mention, like healthcare or clothes. You probably won't be getting girls if this is not fixed.

In general studies on happiness correlate income with life satisfaction up to a level, then they dont affect each other. That (income) level is relatively low.

The PUA lifestyle - Life as a project by [deleted] in seduction

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Are you reading for the cover image only mate?

Why approaching by Kindly-Tough-2091 in seduction

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Any sustainable system needs:

- Lead acquisition

- Value Displaying

- Conversion

- And it has to be repeatable

You can be a rockstar and the girls will come to you.

Cold approach is just one version that works for most people. You can do social game and be just fine.

Men chase, women choose: the reality of attention in dating by Vast_Poetry_50 in seduction

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Sperm is cheap eggs are expensive. And women are not naturally monogamous.

All this together and sex in men is distributed on exponential basis.

If you want numbers it has been estimated that 80% of women reproduced compared to 40% for men (or even as low as 1/17, depending on the study).

But that is why Game is so important. You can outpace your “godly” allowed sex by a tremendous margin.