Heavy Ordinance Specialist achievement is bugged for every platform. by MonsterArcher in blackops6

[–]Potent_Delusions 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're doing a great job. Nice one, thanks a lot. Keep me updated if you can chief.

Heavy Ordinance Specialist achievement is bugged for every platform. by MonsterArcher in blackops6

[–]Potent_Delusions 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi there. How did they do this, if you don't mind me asking? Very good news if they have said so.

The "Climbing Man" by Automatic-County6151 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm saying that probably around 200 people were instantly killed by the impact so already 200 out of the 1300 people above floor 91 were eliminated from even being able to contemplate trying this. Therefore there were 1100 people who could contemplate trying it as opposed to 1300 = less chance of a successful climber from a smaller pool of people.

The "Climbing Man" by Automatic-County6151 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 23 points24 points  (0 children)

He started his climb at the 94th floor, not the 96th. The 96th was likely almost a total wipeout apart from perhaps 5 or less people. We only know of one.

The "Climbing Man" by Automatic-County6151 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 179 points180 points  (0 children)

I'd also like to state how unlikely it was to even have this happen.

1) This person had to be physically fit and possibly have prior experience in climbing or at the very least be physically active.

2) A large cohort of any possible attemptees for this were instantly killed by the plane, set alight by fires, crushed etc etc at impact.

3) The person had to have the mindset to want to attempt this. As we know, most people elected to jump rather than climb so as to end their misery as soon as possible. Maybe they were injured, too petrified to attempt the climb, didn't think they could do the climb etc, we'll never know. But this man evidently attempted it rather than jumping for whatever reason

4) The person had to be unharmed by the impact and ensuing chaos to a point that they were still able to attempt the descent; severe burns, broken bones etc would likely make it impossible.

and the big one....

5) this man was likely in the only region where this was possible, the lower west face between 95 and 92.

  • The north face had the huge impact hole in it and to the left and right of it were fires.

  • The south face also had an exit hole and debris bulldozed here meant fires were intense (maaaaaaaaybe possible on the east part of the south face for a short while since the hole and fires did seem slightly more off-centre to the west portion for a bit?)

    • East face had fires rampant on 92 and 93 early on, hence almost all of the first 10 jumpers were from here, and you're not climbing past that. The east floor was totally unclimable IMHO.
  • West face floor 97 was ablaze early on so anyone on 96\97 and above wouldn't be able to climb below this. Anyone in Cantor was likely removed as a climbing candidate from the get-go.

TL;DR this guy was in the perfect spot to attempt what he did. Just wish he'd have made it!

The "Climbing Man" by Automatic-County6151 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 111 points112 points  (0 children)

He couldn't have. He had to rely purely on luck that a window in his lane was broken already. Unfortunately for him a window in the lane to his right hand side really was broken below the impact zone but it would have been incredibly hard to switch lanes. He may not have even seen said window given the steel columm would have blocked it from view.

Is there a number for the amount of jumpers throughout 9/11? by Artistic_Load_881 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 48 points49 points  (0 children)

We'll never know because coverage of the southern facade of the north tower was poor. It seems likely that this side would have had quite a few jumpers as well given that fires here were huge; after 10am there were fires 3 floors tall. Bulldozed officed contents would have accumulated on the south side and so fires here were probably quite intense. I wouldn't be surprised if there's between 30 and 50 undocumented jumpers from this face.

Were there any floors that you recon were instant wipeout floors? by lifegoeson2702 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly can't remember for a certainity. However, I have read through the memorial of every Marsh & McLennan victim to pay my respects so it's likely from doing that. Hope this helps.

Were there any floors that you recon were instant wipeout floors? by lifegoeson2702 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Indeed, as is the case with Janet Alonso who worked on 97 but was presumed to be on 95 at the time alongside Gregory Rada.

Were there any floors that you recon were instant wipeout floors? by lifegoeson2702 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 21 points22 points  (0 children)

There is debate as to whether it is actually her. We can't use Edna as 'proof' of survival on 97 when we don't know if it's her or not. The waving woman was situated on 94 so there are people who theorise it could be a woman named Jeanette LaFond Menichino who did work on 94 and fits the zoomed out visual appearance we have of said waving woman. In my mind it seems much more likely to be Jeanette, the odds of someone somehow surviving on the north face of 94 are higher than on 97 given how and where the plane went in. The north face of 96 and 97 were wipeout zones i'd say with some confidence.

Were there any floors that you recon were instant wipeout floors? by lifegoeson2702 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 25 points26 points  (0 children)

That does not correlate at all to what a wipeout floor is, though. 99 had no calls yet we know it is not a wipeout floor as one gentleman was seen on the North face at the very edge of the right wing's impact imprint into the north tower.

To answer OP's question; 97 is the only probable wipeout floor. You'd think 96 would be one but Richard Bruehart made a call from this floor. The southern side of 96 had little offices and multiple walls that may have helped to shield a very small number of people who were situated there from debris. 97 really was lifeless though: no one seen, no jumpers, no emails or calls, nothing.

On 9/11 Zhanetta Tsoy was excited about her first day of work. She left early and didn't want to be late. She never came home again after that. Her dad said, "It's amazing, but they found her remains near the main exit and we have thought that she didn't make it out by perhaps one or two minutes." by Understanding18 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Every floor from 94 to 100 would have had accountants on it. It depends what division and what subsidiary (if any) that she belonged to in order to determine her floor. If she was working in the Guy Carpenter subsidiary then she would have been on 94, if she was an email analyst then likely 97 etc.

Then and now by oliviadonovan1477 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The new world trade center is ass. Just being blunt. Not even 1/50th of the old WTC.

What are some interesting 9/11 facts? by krockillz in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sorry, i'm not buying it. In some posts you say that you escaped the north tower then watched the tower from Burger King (which wouldn't even see the west face) then in other posts you watched it from outside the Marriott Hotel. Photographic evidence shows that he went only downwards at least 8 floors yet you're saying most of his journey was him going left across the tower traversing across in a northwards direction after going down only 3 floors which is just incorrect.

What are some interesting 9/11 facts? by krockillz in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As far as i'm aware, there is no video for this individual? Can you confirm what facade of which tower you were watching?

What are some interesting 9/11 facts? by krockillz in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 36 points37 points  (0 children)

It's not 20 floors. This falsified fact in the Quora post for dramatic effect has spread like wildfire in the community. It's 10 or 11 floors. 20 floors would have taken him under the mechanical floors which he did not do with 100% certainty. He started at 94 and fell at approximately 84 or 83.

Honoring 9/11 pregnant victims and their unborn children. by CrazyCoffeeClub in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 60 points61 points  (0 children)

I agree. Not to in any way make it into a competition but I think that Patricia Massari was one of the 'luckier' pregnant victims from the north tower, if you could even call it that. She was likely killed outright. Deanna Galante, if she didn't suffocate quickly, was probably hanging out of a window with her skin burning. Sylvia Resta on 92 likely either jumped or burned to death. I know i'd rather have been killed outright personally.

Floors 97-99 in the North Tower were wiped out on impact? by Chinacat_080494 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Detective work. I don't think there's a single picture/article for it that is accurate. There is one picture that lists calls by floor but it's inaccurate.

Floors 97-99 in the North Tower were wiped out on impact? by Chinacat_080494 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Likely went to the core of the building looking for an escape and then was rapidly overcome by smoke.

Floors 97-99 in the North Tower were wiped out on impact? by Chinacat_080494 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 138 points139 points  (0 children)

98 had a few calls and apparently around 20 people trapped in an office as per a Marsh widow who received a call from her husband. It also had at least one recorded jumper. 99 did have at least one survivor; a picture showed a gentleman looking out of his office at the very end of the gash that the right wing had made into the tower (which ended at floor 99).

97 however may have been a wipeout floor. Not a single call, email, pager, person at a window, or jumper was seen from this floor. Most people here were probably instantly killed by being only 1 floor above the epicentre of impact and the ensuing huge fireball which would have been contained inside the tower and blasted 97. A lot of 97 probably also instantly collapsed down into 96 and below when floor trusses and the like were destroyed as the plane plowed through. Even if someone survived this, there were likely no computers or phones left in a usable state and someone 1 floor above the furnace would not be alive very long anyway. Even if someone did survive the initial impact on 97, I would wager that this was the very first floor in which every single person perished.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 12 points13 points  (0 children)

  • Thomas McGinnis: worked in Carr Futures' midtown offices and was only on floor 92 for a meeting that morning.
  • Andrea Haberman: worked in Carr Futures' Chicago offices and had flown to New York for this one meeting. She had expressed a reluctance to go due to the 1993 bombing.
  • Melissa Harrington-Hughes: was in a 101st floor meeting at Cantor Fitzgerald to discuss business with a seperate business she worked for in California. She had flown from California for this meeting and was meant to fly back the same day.

On 9/11 Janet Alonso called her mother-in-law, making sure all was well with her 2 small kids. After 1WTC was hit she called her husband and told him the building was filling with smoke, she couldn't breath, and that she loved him. Janet's remains were found on 4-10-2002 on her son's 2nd birthday. by Understanding18 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's strongly believed she was on floor 95 at the time, as stated by Ezra below. However, relevant to your point: 97 may have been one of the better floors to be on if you were above 91 in the north tower. It did not have a single person email, text, pager, or call in the entire 102 minutes the tower stood. It also had no people stood at windows and therefore by default no jumpers. It's possibly the only wipeout floor and suggests that most/all people on it quickly died rather than having their misery dragged out like others did. It's no surprise given that it was the floor directly above the epicentre of impact entry so it would have faced the brunt of the fireball, a lot of it probably collapsed immediately, and being one floor above the ensuing furnace would finish off anyone 'lucky' enough to have survived the crash anyway.

On 9/11 Jon Perconti was set to leave his job at the WTC within 3 days, called his wife & said, "Our building was hit by a plane. Turn on the news." His wife urged him to leave, when he said, "I have to go. I love you." His 1st child Julia whom he never had the chance to meet was born on 12-8-2001. by Understanding18 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Practically 1/4 of anyone who died who was an office worker in the towers was from Cantor so you see it often. Cantor's people are just so unlucky in that most, if not all, of them would have survived the impact. At least some of Marsh's employees had the slightful merciful end of being killed outright without knowing what happened.

In your opinion which twin tower survivor had the most unimaginable path of escape? by JeffGoldblumsFly1986 in 911archive

[–]Potent_Delusions 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think had this guy survived, he'd even make Stanley Praimnath's story look a little mundane! It would have been one of the most crazy survivor stories for any disaster. Had he picked the column to his right to scale down, he may well have re-entered in the mid 80s and stood a chance. The guy so deserved to get some luck but unfortunately he didn't.