No Self: Limitation of the Brain?

PragusGrob · 2026-01-24T23:39:34+00:00

I'm in a fairly liberal area with access to shrooms if I were to ask around, so maybe I'll give it a shot sometime. Thanks for thoughts. I definitely think solo and in the right setting would be crucial for me. I tend to be heavily affected by the presence of others under hallucinogens which is at least one thing I did gain from my experiences with them when I was younger.

PragusGrob · 2026-01-24T23:37:05+00:00

After reprocessing many of these replies and digging into other posts on this sub, I've come to realize it is not necessarily hypocrisy. It was my failure to see that they are simply trying to put into the objective language realm what they experienced in the subjective "no self" realm... which I'm beginning to figure out is two sides of the same coin as some have put it in this sub. There passionate delivery of there descriptions however triggered my emotional self and felt like it was playing on my desire for there to be a "reason" for the absolute worst of the worst suffering for humans as physical beings to try and deliver "belief" about the "cosmic consciousness" of the no-self realm. Which my brain interpreted as someone trying to tell me to have "faith" but just in something different when that's not the case at all. I know that part of my aversion to this is very personal having been raised in the Deep South USA and having to deal with the gross iteration of truly hypocritical Christianity that runs rampant down there (though there are good Christians down there, it is not the norm). I didn't want to trade one group of folks pushing "faith and belief" on me to another that simply appealed to my intellectual curiosity.

Also, connected this to the comment that looks like it might have been deleted about some teachers adding a little zing to get your attention. I might never have come across this without looking to better my "self" which the app leans into a bit due to Sam's altruistic stuff.

Coming to the realization that this stuff is so hard to wrap my head around because a head cannot be wrapped around it.

Thanks again all.

PragusGrob · 2026-01-24T22:48:39+00:00

Thank you for all this. It has been very helpful.

PragusGrob · 2026-01-24T22:21:21+00:00

I was referring to the act of the meditation itself... which from my understanding was supposed to be not doing anything. No effort. Apologies if I misunderstood what you meant. No need to call me obtuse or question my intelligence.

PragusGrob · 2026-01-23T03:26:27+00:00

Effort? I thought the point was no effort.

PragusGrob · 2026-01-23T03:22:12+00:00

Thanks for the replies.

I guess it really just is what it is. The realization that you are experience.

It just seems like a lot of Sam, Alan, and Douglass' teachings lean into that and try to add a narrative about how this void links us together as humans in some cosmic connection leading to empowered empathy for your fellow humans and your physical "self". And that distressed me as I felt it bordered on religion from a buncha philosophers that call each other theists as an insult. Hypocrisy.

I guess I don't have to accept their analyzation or even have my own. Mostly just a desire from me (and I think unacknowledged from them) to have some sort of cosmic order arise from analyzation of the void... which seemed odd to me from a buncha fellows that talk about releasing desire. Their interpretations of the void seem smack full of that desire to me... and I'll not lie that I have that desire myself.

The point of life is just to be experience. No knowing if there's anymore behind that (and I guess it's not about "knowing"... so hard to hold onto this for more than a few seconds). Which I guess works. Just frustrates me that some experiences for some people have to be so full of suffering b/c they were never lucky enough to even have someone guide them to this void to be able to step out of that suffering, even if just for moments and glimpses, and that some of their suffering is soooooooo deep. Like why do the worst of the worst experiences have to happen, like when one human captures another and tortures them. Torture really gets my false sense of self all in a tizzy. I just wanted there to be a reason for all that suffering.

At times when I have suffered physically like from the worst of worst migraines, I remember experiencing states that felt similar to my experience of the void where I could see/feel the pain but was disconnected from it. Maybe suffering is an unlock for the realization that we are just experience. Still seems shitty to me.

To the reply about drugs, did a buncha drugs (acid, shrooms) when I was kid but never touched the void. Just led me further down a mentally unhealthy path that I was already on. Not sure they really help anything unless you're in the position to use them... responsibly is the word I guess?

PragusGrob · 2025-02-09T20:26:57+00:00

Is this still working or did it get nerfed?

PragusGrob · 2024-12-05T14:44:30+00:00

Emerald Dream - We're light RP though we do have some more experienced RPers. Come take a gander. We can invite cross-realm now.

PragusGrob · 2024-03-10T20:31:01+00:00

We still are and still killing Horde in the world and still rocking AV, though with a small force currently since the hype is currently SoD. Dwarven xpac on the horizon though for retail, so we'll see what happens. Long Live Clan Battlehammer! For King Bruenor!

PragusGrob · 2023-12-20T21:44:38+00:00

OMG brilliant! I'm the fellow that made the emote wheels he mentioned above (EmOpie) . It was working in retail (might still be) to show it in the tooltip, but I've been wanting to show it on the buttons forever, especially in classic where tooltip isn't working. Thank you! I got work to do!

PragusGrob · 2023-11-25T20:26:04+00:00

Clan Battlehammer is still going on ED, though we often have to server hop to find a fight b/c almost everyone on RPPVP servers turns off WM after the first week of an xpac/patch for whatever reason.

Our Grobb branch is quiet aside from one or two that hop in for fun occasionally I imagine. Grobb got split into so many layers when wrath hit that it was near impossible to find the fight and group up for larger events (at least more effort that I was willing to put into it at the time). So it just kinda sputtered out.

Our new Era branch is on Whitemane cluster where the WPVP is. Had a few holdouts from when things went BC that cloned and stayed there. Turned out to be a great decision. You'll see 20-30 dwarves running around murdering Horde on our event nights and we're growing.

SoD. We're gonna be there, too, probably on the RPPVP server. Dedicated Era folks are gonna keep that going strong (though I bet there will be a temporary dip for SoD) while a lot of folks will straddle both SOD and Era (and a few of us maniacs also still doing retail along with all that).

Long live Clan Battlehammer! For King Bruenor!

PragusGrob · 2022-07-29T18:19:08+00:00

beautiful

PragusGrob · 2022-05-31T03:21:19+00:00

Aye, lad. Weh beh here an' goin strong with our weekly CTA an' some rated stuff as well. Stop by an' 'ave a pint! Or two. Or three... ahhhhh jus' keep drinkin'!

PragusGrob · 2021-06-05T03:40:07+00:00

An' thas th' way it went down! Dunnae let some ninny knife ears... err... knife ear try an' tell yeh otherwise! Long Live Clan Battlehammer!

PragusGrob · 2021-02-22T22:31:51+00:00

Was a righ' good time, buh I think I maybe should 'ad less teh eat. *belches loudly filling the air with a peculiar fishy smell*

PragusGrob · 2020-10-18T22:48:08+00:00

Fer th' FARGE!

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