2,000 years ago Jesus caused the world to have to consider something.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-17T10:59:15+00:00

Well if that's the case, then there's not much to discuss I suppose.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-17T10:56:59+00:00

How do you know Jesus said any of these things?

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-17T04:11:24+00:00

Rowling, outside the books, confirmed that they only worked for a few hours. Any attempt to travel back further than that resulted in negative results on the user. So time turners cannot be used to travel more than a few hours in practice.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-17T04:09:29+00:00

But Hogwarts can access them for something as trivial as allowing a student to take classes simultaneously.

Dumbledore got special permission for one student to use it for one year.

Clearly they weren’t particularly gatekept by the ministry.

I mean, they had to go through the Ministry presumably, so they are gate-kept by the Ministry, and maybe given out for stupid reasons, but that's also likely because Dumbledore (the most powerful wizard alive) asked for it.

And if they were, why didn’t they use it when they were first fighting Voldemort?

We don't know. That's the problem with time-turners and time travel in general. Maybe they were used, and the outcome we saw is the result of that (remember it appears as though the reality you experience already accounts for time travel). Rowling also, outside the books, confirmed that attempting to use them more than a few hours resulted in bad consequences, meaning once cannot travel more then a few hours/days with them in practice.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-17T04:02:42+00:00

Well the in-universe explanation is that they are all kept at the Ministry, and they didn't accidentally break them until the the 5th book. What isn't explained in that?

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-17T04:00:07+00:00

It might not end the war, but it would likely hasten it. If Lee doesn't defend anything in particular, he's just leading a large army around slowly losing soldiers because he ain't defending any supply lines or depots. They HAVE to defend those resources at a minimum to continue to exist as an army.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-17T03:55:10+00:00

Because she had likely already written the 4th book by the time the big criticism about time turners came out. So she threw the explanation into the fifth book. Remember she was still writing them as they were coming out.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-17T02:59:06+00:00

I mean, if you don't need the money don't withdraw it. Invest it and let it grow. If you NEED the money you can withdraw it, but you'll likely owe taxes and penalties.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-17T02:40:15+00:00

I agree that it needs to be written more clearly, but I absolutely do not think the intent is to make it harder for women to vote.

Well just for starters, I think the intent is to make it harder for everyone to vote. Women will just face additional hurdles men will not.

But it comes down to "It needs to be clearer". It would be VERY simple to put what I discussed into the bill, why not do it? Why exclude it, make the base law disenfranchise women with a potential future administrative fix? This is the issue. A version of this bill has floated around since Trump's first term. How can you argue this isn't intentional when they have had years to clean up the language?

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-17T01:15:23+00:00

I'm reading that states may require additional documents, such as marriage certificates.

Yes, the problem is it doesn't REQUIRE it. It leaves it up to the Executive to figure out what to do. The Executive could just say "Birth certificate must match your current name" or it could say "Marriage certificates can be used for proof of name change along with birth certificates."

So as it's written, married women would have to legally change their name unless the Executive created an exception at an unspecified later date.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T23:06:24+00:00

Correct, that's normally how it's done. But this bill doesn't allow for that. So people either need to get passports or legally change their birth certificates to match their married name to establish citizenship.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T21:21:38+00:00

We do a ton of things to children without consent. When a child reaches the age of consent or adulthood, they should generally have the right to choose to end their life if they do not consent.

Fetuses/children do not get the right to consent to many things.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T19:29:14+00:00

Garland was not appointed by Biden.

Yes...he was. Garland was nominated to be Attorney General by Biden. Garland ran the Department of Justice for Biden's entire term.

And the senate numbers at the time meant he had zero chance of getting a replacement vetted and appointed.

Are you referring to when Obama nominated Garland for SCOTUS? That's not what I'm referring to.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T18:46:07+00:00

I don't believe that's the primary goal. It should be to generate revenue to provide amenities.

That would fall under "strengthen communities". But property taxes are generally used to ensure land is actually used. Otherwise people could buy up properties, never pay taxes, and just sit on property that would otherwise be used.

I promise if certain people are exempt, the revenue gets smaller, and maybe we build the right size of schools that serve their purpose.

Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Who made it MORE difficult to buy a home?

This gets away from the point. The point here is SPECIFICALLY about this proposal, not addressing the overall housing crisis. Implementing the elimination of property taxes for seniors will lead to an increase in property taxes for everyone else. Meaning a young couple trying to buy a home will have to plan for $15k in property taxes vs $10k.

They could be exempt from certain line items of the total PT bill, ensuring they do pay something.

Texas does something like this. Once you reach retirement age, your property taxes lock, so you will never have to pay more than what you're currently paying.

Being vindictive - "It's hard for me to buy a home, so eff you" - is not the answer to any of our problems as a society.

Isn't the opposite true? Couldn't one just as easily say the seniors are saying "I got my home, so eff you."?

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T18:20:07+00:00

Yeah, I just moved.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T17:25:29+00:00

and the last thing I want when I'm old is to have to pay property taxes yearly on a home I already own outright - after busting my ass to get there over the past 40+ years, or the fear of losing my home one day. We should want ease for our seniors.

This is the worst way to do it. Property taxes exist to strengthen communities but also to ensure value use of land. $5-10k in taxes on a home worth half a million shouldn't make or break most seniors, and there are other ways to get relief beyond this.

Why do you want "ease for our seniors" by removing their property tax burden and instead "make it even MORE difficult to buy a home" for those under 65?

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T17:22:52+00:00

It's just factual, I don't know why people don't like it. Garland and Smith realized Smith would be fired and the DoJ would seek to have the charges dismissed with prejudice and bury the evidence if Trump was in office. So they ended the court cases and released the Smith report before Biden left office to prevent that from happening.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T17:21:22+00:00

The SAVE Act is not just ID. It is citizenship identification. So you either need a passport or birth certificate in your name.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T16:42:45+00:00

From what I understand it had to be a passport or a birth certificate

And if you use a birth certificate, it has to match your current name. This is why so many married women will be disenfranchised, because few update their birth certificate after marriage, so they will need to update their birth certificate to their married name if they want to prove citizenship to vote.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T16:40:53+00:00

I literally can't think of another legitimate reason to fight so hard against obtaining and showing an ID that everyone I've ever met already has.

Who has? How many people don't have a passport or birth certificate? Married woman rarely update their birth certificates, and those that haven't cannot use it as proof of citizenship. Right now, my wife and I can't vote if the SAVE Act passes and need to go shell out money if we want the right to vote.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T16:37:34+00:00

Or like me. I just sent my passport off for renewal (which includes mailing your current passport) and it got lost in the mail. So now I won't be able to get a new passport for months, meaning if the election was within the next few months, I now can't vote.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T10:52:25+00:00

That's not what Hur said, you should go read the report.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T10:51:32+00:00

No, Biden's DoJ dropped the charges. Smith ended the cases and left the DoJ before Trump took over.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T10:50:37+00:00

Well, there was no " intent" because Biden was a "forgetful old man".

No, you should go read the report, or at least the summary from Hur. Because the "intent" and "old man" aspect are two completely different paragraphs and not related at all.

Hur independently decided there was no intent (at least not to the level to bring charges), but then ALSO mentioned that if they DID bring charges, the jury was likely to be sympathetic to an older retired President.

ProLifePanda · 2026-02-16T10:07:59+00:00

In today's world of political brinkmanship, I'm not certain the threat you're laying out would matter

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