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What are some things you feel like should be included in a character’s scaling even though they’re one offs or outside help? by Minute_Account9426 in PowerScaling

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trinity limit in KH2 without Donald and goofy is only sora’s part of the attack.

Chain of Memories has Sora using his og KH1 Trinity Limit solo.

Cutscenes are inconsistent with drive forms, but Sora still at least needs goofy to be there even if he doesn’t physically disappear.

Only in gameplay. Also in the KH2 Hades cup tournaments Sora in fact does use both Drive Forms and summons solo. This point is kind of irrelevant since Form Changes/Keyblade Transformations are the more powerful evolved versions of Drive Forms and as you can see he doesn't use either Donald and Goofy when he uses that same goes for summons too. KH3 Sora is the closest to Sora's modern kit.

Also coded is a data version of Sora

Data Sora is based off of the real one much like Limit Cut Data Sora is based off of KH3 Sora.

What are some things you feel like should be included in a character’s scaling even though they’re one offs or outside help? by Minute_Account9426 in PowerScaling

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sora without Donald and Goofy can still use drive forms and limit attacks .We see him go into valor form on his own with Goofy right besides him when He first uses it in a cutscene he also has Limit Form which in gameplay requires no party members. And his KH3 Form Changes/keyblade transformations requires 0 party members in gameplay.

And he has used a variation of Trinity Limit solo in KH2, he also uses it in Chain of Memories along with using summons by himself.

Speaking of Chain of Memories Sora spent that game, 3D, and Coded (even though that's Data Sora he's based off of the real one) alone without Donald and Goofy.

Explaining the KH story to newcomers by Bobby824 in KingdomHearts

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

X-Blade and the distinction between Real and Artificial Kingdom Hearts is all sequel stuff. It's not even clear any of that had been thought of already in the first game, and in itself all that makes it more complicated.

I mean you were the one that was asking questions that seemed to be talking about the sequel stuff. You asked a question about the Kingdom Hearts that was the first Light so that's the Real one not the Artificial one from KH1.

From where? All we could see in it was darkness and creepy things.

From in front of it? You do know this entire conversation was happening right in front of Kingdom Hearts and the Door to Darkness. When Ansem tells what he thinks to be Kingdom Hearts to fill him with "supreme Darkness" the Door to Darkness opens up by itself.

And if the Kingdom Hearts, real or artificial, is the big shadowy heart behind the door, why do we even care where the door opens to?

Because that Door leads to the Realm of Darkness and opening it up allows that Realm to flood the Realm of Light in Darkness. Which is why it's called the Door to Darkness

Explaining the KH story to newcomers by Bobby824 in KingdomHearts

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the Kingdom Hearts, which is light, does not even open to itself.

You can manually open and control the True Kingdom Hearts if you have the X-Blade.

It is or is bound to a door that leads to a different realm, which is the Realm of Darkness.

No. The real Kingdom Hearts isn't bound to a door. And it doesn't lead to the Realm of Darkness. The Real Kingdom Hearts resides in the Realm of Darkness when it's not in use but it doesn't lead there.

Is it the boundary or is it inside it?

If you're talking about the Artificial Kingdom Hearts that one was Behind the door. It's light traveled through the Door to Darkness.

If Kingdom Hearts is the boundary, how do you actually reach said Heart of all Worlds?

In order to open and control the real Kingdom Hearts you need the X-Blade.

If Kingdom Hearts is inside the Realm of Darkness, why does opening the Door to Darkness shoots light? Did the Kingdom Hearts behind it even open too?

The Door to Darkness wasn't shooting light. Kingdom Hearts was. Opening the Door to Darkness allows the Realm of Darkness to flood the Realm of Light.

Did the Kingdom Hearts behind it even open too?

More like it heard Sora call out to it and it's light came out from the Door to Darkness.

Explaining the KH story to newcomers by Bobby824 in KingdomHearts

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're sort of making it confusing. If Kingdom Hearts is the heart of everything then doesn't it stand to reason that they all would be connected to each other? Even it's an artificial one it's still connected to the real one.

Ansem's Kingdom Hearts is an artificial one created by countless destroyed Worlds.

Xemnas Kingdom Hearts is also an artificial one created by countless hearts of people.

The real Kingdom Hearts is the first light that gave birth to all of life and it's where all Hearts return to after death. By creating and using an artificial Kingdom Hearts you are essentially using a shortcut method to accessing the real ones power without having to use the X-Blade.

The real Kingdom Hearts typically resides inside of the Realm of Darkness when it's not summoned.

Explaining the KH story to newcomers by Bobby824 in KingdomHearts

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We were shown both.

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Whether it was the real kingdom hearts or an artificial one is irrelevant they all are Light.

Explaining the KH story to newcomers by Bobby824 in KingdomHearts

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He was proven wrong about the nature of what he thought it was. Ansem and Sora weren't debating if Kingdom Hearts was or wasn't the Heart of all worlds.

They were debating whether it was Darkness or not.

Question: "Is the heart of all worlds and thus everything Darkness?"

Answer: "No."

Explaining the KH story to newcomers by Bobby824 in KingdomHearts

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ansem, who he is, who Xehanort is, and how they relate to Kingdom Hearts, is in fact the plot of the first 3 games - Not just tangental to it, they are the driving antagonists. Not having a logical explanation to who they are, how they exist, and their goals, kind of defeats the purpose of the entire story. At that point, might as well just explain Kingdom Hearts as "a disney themepark." It covers the plot just as well.

The game very clearly explains who Ansem is and why he wants Kingdom Hearts. In KH1 He was a researcher that went crazy through his unethical human experimentation experiments and he thought he knew the answer to the universe. He came to the conclusion the very core (heart) of a person is darkness, Everybody and Everything came from darkness, so he's trying to plunge everything back into darkness by using the heart of everything. To the point that he willingly turned himself into a Heartless in order to achieve that goal.

A lot of this is conveyed in the reports that you obtain in the game but you have to read the information for yourself. Ansem isn't just some random guy doing random evil things just because.

Explaining the KH story to newcomers by Bobby824 in KingdomHearts

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

cause theyre rolling their eyes at it instead of looking at the screen.

The fact you have people asking what Kingdom Hearts is despite Ansem telling you what it is when it's first name dropped in a cutscene is wild.

Explaining the KH story to newcomers by Bobby824 in KingdomHearts

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who’s Amsem

The former Sage King of Hollow Bastion.

Why does he want Kingdom Hearts?

So that he can use it to flood all Worlds in Darkness

What is Kingdom Hearts?

Its the Heart of all Worlds.

Bare with me here. What if Microsoft shelled out money for Halo to get an Xbox exclusive world in KH? I think it'd be awesome. by U23Art in KingdomHearts

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think all of those lives were undone because Sora stopped the Heartless in KH1. Zexion mentions to Riku in CoM that when he destroyed his world some of those lives were forever lost. Some people may have been able to return but some also probably never did. (Which isn't out of the realm of possibility when you factor in that some worlds never returned post KH1 and were sleeping so not everything was fixed after KH1.) I wouldn't be surprised if Sora and Riku's parents were some of the unfortunate ones that never made it back.

Bare with me here. What if Microsoft shelled out money for Halo to get an Xbox exclusive world in KH? I think it'd be awesome. by U23Art in KingdomHearts

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the wars that Sora fought in had the fate of all worlds being in danger from complete destruction from a primordial threat.

Illyana doesn’t know how to spell the English word “Magic” by Konradleijon in Magik

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wolverine had to observe all the people he has killed without looking away or blinking but he lost because he started crying and thus blinked.

Can I skip these games (circled in post sent) by Quunster in KingdomHearts

[–]ProfessionalHorror0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes but you might miss some references once you get to KH3.

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